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Post by crylerjames23 on Apr 20, 2023 13:41:40 GMT
A 8 seconds of song (RAW) just leaked. It sounds like pre-Let Go song. I can't even hear the melody well because it's very bad quality. yeah, it's very hard to tell what she's singing. Strange snippet lol
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Post by bornxchaos on Apr 21, 2023 0:15:39 GMT
I'm surprised at the amount of leaks tbh, I think her new single may be coming sooner than we think 😍 You think? Because of the leaks? I don't know, I don't see her releasing a new song anytime soon, the European tour must've been finished for a little time before she will promote something else I think. The leaks are teasing me 🤣 I would hope that after the tour the hype isn't going to stop, I would love if she releases something for us
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Post by damncoldnights on Apr 21, 2023 16:03:34 GMT
I didn't realize Avril wasn't a writer on Bright (or at least, on the Unreleased Songs thread -whoever made that btw you did an amazing job I can't believe all the work that must've gone into it). I/we always figured she didn't include it on HAW because she thought it would make the album more of a downer (although I think it's an uplifting song), but if she didn't contribute to the writing then it makes sense why she didn't include it. It definitely sounds/feels like "her" work though. But Lights Out, which I thought she didn't write on, is listed as her being a co-writer. I can't imagine, then, what reason she could've possibly had not to put it on HAW because even if it doesn't fit the theme she was going for (aside from IMO being better than BW/LMI) it at least really shows her vocal chops. Also, I don't dislike BW/LMI, they're fun to listen to when I'm in the mood, but I would've preferred Lights Out to replace one of them.
So now I'm wondering: if she won't include songs on an album that she hasn't contributed writing to, aside from covers, then why does she even record them or entertain the thought of them?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 21, 2023 17:13:43 GMT
That is a really interesting point. It’s pretty well known that Avril writes all her own music and doesn’t consider outside work for her albums, however it’s worth noting HAW is the only album this happened with. I could be completely wrong on this but I think BMG can sign songwriters in addition to artists, so my theory is that it was possibly written into Avril’s contract that she had to purchase/record at least a certain number of songs from the songwriters BMG employs, even if she wasn’t planning to ultimately put them on the album. It could be why they got leaked since it’s clear they weren’t going to be used for anything. But like I said, I could be hugely wrong on that.
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Post by eismann on Apr 21, 2023 20:50:46 GMT
Dont know who wrote Bright, Lights Out etc. but maybe the person didnt want to give Avril writing credits cause Avril didnt contribute to the song. But it's very much Avril's brand and image to "write her own songs" (no matter how small her contribution might have been in reality). Also Avril is very proud and stubborn when it comes to having an influence on her songs. So I doubt she would ever put a song on an album where she has no writing credits.
I think sometimes singers also record some songs, knowing they wont release them, just to see which direction the music is going, what fits their voices, what to present to the label and the song writers to work on etc.
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Post by Gab on Apr 21, 2023 21:51:19 GMT
I didn't realize Avril wasn't a writer on Bright (or at least, on the Unreleased Songs thread -whoever made that btw you did an amazing job I can't believe all the work that must've gone into it). I/we always figured she didn't include it on HAW because she thought it would make the album more of a downer (although I think it's an uplifting song), but if she didn't contribute to the writing then it makes sense why she didn't include it. It definitely sounds/feels like "her" work though. But Lights Out, which I thought she didn't write on, is listed as her being a co-writer. I can't imagine, then, what reason she could've possibly had not to put it on HAW because even if it doesn't fit the theme she was going for (aside from IMO being better than BW/LMI) it at least really shows her vocal chops. Also, I don't dislike BW/LMI, they're fun to listen to when I'm in the mood, but I would've preferred Lights Out to replace one of them. So now I'm wondering: if she won't include songs on an album that she hasn't contributed writing to, aside from covers, then why does she even record them or entertain the thought of them? I expressed a theory about Lights Out back then. First of all Avril didn't write the song. It was written by Carah Faye many years ago and she also performed it live and there are videos circulating since 2016 at least, way before HAW. Avril changed very few words and that's how she got her credit (did she though? I don't remember anymore if she was listed on ASCAP/Harryfox or those websites). So either it was never intended to be on HAW and I agree with this: I think sometimes singers also record some songs, knowing they wont release them, just to see which direction the music is going, what fits their voices, what to present to the label and the song writers to work on etc. or they decided to scrap it when they realized that they could not "steal" the song without being noticed because there were old live performances of it on Youtube where the singer says she wrote it herself (and even if they managed to take them off, someone having the original footage could have uploaded them again causing a way worse controversy).
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Post by dmiora on Apr 22, 2023 9:37:19 GMT
I didn't realize Avril wasn't a writer on Bright (or at least, on the Unreleased Songs thread -whoever made that btw you did an amazing job I can't believe all the work that must've gone into it). I/we always figured she didn't include it on HAW because she thought it would make the album more of a downer (although I think it's an uplifting song), but if she didn't contribute to the writing then it makes sense why she didn't include it. It definitely sounds/feels like "her" work though. But Lights Out, which I thought she didn't write on, is listed as her being a co-writer. I can't imagine, then, what reason she could've possibly had not to put it on HAW because even if it doesn't fit the theme she was going for (aside from IMO being better than BW/LMI) it at least really shows her vocal chops. Also, I don't dislike BW/LMI, they're fun to listen to when I'm in the mood, but I would've preferred Lights Out to replace one of them. So now I'm wondering: if she won't include songs on an album that she hasn't contributed writing to, aside from covers, then why does she even record them or entertain the thought of them? I expressed a theory about Lights Out back then. First of all Avril didn't write the song. It was written by Carah Faye many years ago and she also performed it live and there are videos circulating since 2016 at least, way before HAW. Avril changed very few words and that's how she got her credit (did she though? I don't remember anymore if she was listed on ASCAP/Harryfox or those websites). So either it was never intended to be on HAW and I agree with this: I think sometimes singers also record some songs, knowing they wont release them, just to see which direction the music is going, what fits their voices, what to present to the label and the song writers to work on etc. or they decided to scrap it when they realized that they could not "steal" the song without being noticed because there were old live performances of it on Youtube where the singer says she wrote it herself (and even if they managed to take them off, someone having the original footage could have uploaded them again causing a way worse controversy). This is kinda crazy to think about, that Avril would steal a song. I just think somehow maybe it happen just for fun, or they make her to buy it, for the album. Or they just make her to record it and then make some another song, that was in similar way, to fit the album. I am sure she have sooo many unrealeased music.
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Post by agathachloe on Apr 22, 2023 13:21:02 GMT
I agree that singers sometimes record songs they won’t release. For instance, Avril worked with Lauren for HAW, so maybe Lauren helped her decide what direction to take by recording “I Want What I Want”, while having some fun.
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Post by Sebas_Pelo on Apr 22, 2023 14:01:16 GMT
Talking of Lights Out, with the Rotem Remix and the Steve Aoki Remix do you guys think the song almost came out as a first single for HAW ?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Apr 22, 2023 15:56:55 GMT
I doubt it. I think HAW was always going to be the lead since it’s the song she wrote first.
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Post by Underclass King on Apr 27, 2023 20:02:26 GMT
Would anyone kindly be able to update me on the song titles (and if snippets/full) for what has leaked recently so I can accurately update the unreleased songs thread? I've been busy with finals and thus missed a lot of what has leaked. I've seen the titles "C'est la Vie", "Energy", and apparently eight seconds of a pre-Let Go song?
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Post by geelicon on Apr 27, 2023 21:51:21 GMT
I doubt it. I think HAW was always going to be the lead since it’s the song she wrote first. Isn't supposed "Warrior" to be the first single? She even had the whole concept and photoshoot before HAW popped into the narrative, isn't it? I remembered she teased us a lot with "Warrior".
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Post by metam on Apr 28, 2023 21:13:15 GMT
Would anyone kindly be able to update me on the song titles (and if snippets/full) for what has leaked recently so I can accurately update the unreleased songs thread? I've been busy with finals and thus missed a lot of what has leaked. I've seen the titles "C'est la Vie", "Energy", and apparently eight seconds of a pre-Let Go song? It's been quite a while since you become active again. 2023 Avril leaks so far: January 21: Mobile MV director's cut January 22: "Warrior" another version January 29: "Dumb Blonde" Demos March 2: "Destination" (Non leak) March 31: "Bite Me" (Demo) snippet April 6: "Energy" April 7: "C'est La Vie" snippet April 10: "C'est La Vie" April 20: Pre-Letgo snippet *Philippine timeline.
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Post by crylerjames23 on Apr 28, 2023 21:18:02 GMT
Would anyone kindly be able to update me on the song titles (and if snippets/full) for what has leaked recently so I can accurately update the unreleased songs thread? I've been busy with finals and thus missed a lot of what has leaked. I've seen the titles "C'est la Vie", "Energy", and apparently eight seconds of a pre-Let Go song? It's been quite a while since you become active again. 2023 Avril leaks so far: January 21: Mobile MV director's cut January 22: "Warrior" another version January 29: "Dumb Blonde" Demos March 2: "Destination" March 31: "Bite Me" (Demo) snippet April 6: "Energy" April 7: "C'est La Vie" snippet April 10: "C'est La Vie" April 20: Pre-Letgo snippet *Philippine timeline. What is Destination? I haven't heard of that one
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Post by metam on Apr 28, 2023 21:22:48 GMT
It's been quite a while since you become active again. 2023 Avril leaks so far: January 21: Mobile MV director's cut January 22: "Warrior" another version January 29: "Dumb Blonde" Demos March 2: "Destination" March 31: "Bite Me" (Demo) snippet April 6: "Energy" April 7: "C'est La Vie" snippet April 10: "C'est La Vie" April 20: Pre-Letgo snippet *Philippine timeline. What is Destination? I haven't heard of that one It was on Avril's YT page but it's not there anymore. Avril didn't sing it but she was the composer according to the description.
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