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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2015 22:38:01 GMT
I kind of prefer to think that if Avril made dark rock albums for her whole career that she'd have been a solo version of Evanescence. I really just suggested Joan because she has the type of longevity that I was referring to. Whereas Evanescence have only released 3 studio albums in 12 years, Joan has released 14 in 25 years.
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Post by Gabo on Sept 14, 2015 2:02:00 GMT
I kind of prefer to think that if Avril made dark rock albums for her whole career that she'd have been a solo version of Evanescence. I really just suggested Joan because she has the type of longevity that I was referring to. Whereas Evanescence have only released 3 studio albums in 12 years, Joan has released 14 in 25 years. She actually is considered the Joan Jett of this generation " Avril Lavigne: The Joan Jett of 2000s teen pop, who dominated the charts with an edgy, punk-inspired image." www.allmusic.com/artist/avril-lavigne-mn0000762885
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Post by Gabo on Sept 14, 2015 2:22:17 GMT
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 14, 2015 2:25:29 GMT
Yeah I remember reading that years ago. It's a shame Arista didn't let her put it on the album. Makes you wonder what other kinds of stuff she wrote that never got put on a record. It took her years to finally release Darlin, a quite well written track IMO, because other people did not want it on her albums. People would probably take Avril a lot more seriously as an artist if she were allowed to release more songs like that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 8:05:19 GMT
Yeah I remember reading that years ago. It's a shame Arista didn't let her put it on the album. Makes you wonder what other kinds of stuff she wrote that never got put on a record. It took her years to finally release Darlin, a quite well written track IMO, because other people did not want it on her albums. People would probably take Avril a lot more seriously as an artist if she were allowed to release more songs like that. Just like the people of Kelly Clarkson's label who didn't want to put "Because of You" on her album.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 9:09:01 GMT
"On my TV there's a serial killer who's taken too many lives/He shot somebody every day/And now he's still getting away"
I am kinda glad that this didn't make it to the final cut.
Aside from being about a social issue, they don't seem like good lyrics in the first place imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2015 10:57:33 GMT
I really just suggested Joan because she has the type of longevity that I was referring to. Whereas Evanescence have only released 3 studio albums in 12 years, Joan has released 14 in 25 years. She actually is considered the Joan Jett of this generation " Avril Lavigne: The Joan Jett of 2000s teen pop, who dominated the charts with an edgy, punk-inspired image." www.allmusic.com/artist/avril-lavigne-mn0000762885Lol yeah I believe that as much as Justin Bieber is the Kurt Cobain of this generation...
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Post by Cookie Monster on Nov 23, 2015 15:21:36 GMT
Maybe she would have sounded like this?
#djent
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 3:19:24 GMT
I guarantee Chad knew every song she's put out. He'd been hot for her ever since that Canadian music award show where he put his arm around her neck. And that was a LONG time ago
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 26, 2015 13:12:18 GMT
Maybe she would have sounded like this? #djent WTF is this mess?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 13:58:49 GMT
The verses sound okay, but the rest of it is like listening to two songs at the same time. I like metal, and I like Avril. But I don't really want them both at once.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 26, 2015 14:42:55 GMT
I sort of get what they were trying to do with it but by the chorus I had to stop it because it was just so badly mixed and edited. I don't really like it when her fans try to make "rock" or "metal" versions of her songs. They usually never sound that great. Complicated is perfect just the way it is, as a pop song. Adding in these heavy guitars just ruins the whole thing. It's not meant to sound like that. Now if someone wanted to try making a "rock" version of 17, I might actually like that, since I really loved the live version at the Viper Room and sadly the studio version never lived up to that.
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Post by Gabo on Jan 7, 2016 9:39:17 GMT
I found this interview, where she said why she didn't go full rock on Let Go. She even talked about Nickelback "‘Losing Grip’ is an interesting example of where Avril the pop singer diverges from Avril the aspiring rock frontwoman who blasted through that Point set. Lyrically more oblique, sonically much darker and heavier than Let Go’s largely Alanis-lite arrangements, it’s the best song on the album: a tune you wouldn’t overly mind hearing on Phantom FM from time to time. It was written in collaboration not with The Matrix, of Lavigne’s three massive singles, but with producer/multi-instrumentalist Clif Magness, of the heavier, and better – if less poptastic – songs on Let Go.
“That’s my favourite song too,” Avril says immediately. “I feel like that song, and ‘Unwanted’, they’re the songs that feel the most personal, and they describe me the best, musically, and where I’m gonna be going for the next record.
“There was a point where, immediately after I’d finished writing ‘Unwanted’ (also co-written with Magness, she readily explains), where I knew I could write anything, any rock songs that I wanted, with Clif,” Avril says with quiet passion, suddenly sounding a lot older. “I knew he could get that heavy rock production properly done. And I was like, Fuck. I want my whole record to sound like this! And then I realised that, you know what?” She claps her hands. “It’s not gonna work. It’s not gonna work if I go and come out with this full-on rock record.”
She smiles wistfully.
“Radio won’t play it. Pop music is what gets played, and what goes on TV, and radio and in magazines and all that. So, this next record,” says Avril, “will be more of what I want, but even then I have to make sure I at least (giggles, rolls eyes) have those three pop singles on it. That’s just how it works.
“Pretty stupid, right?” she says, her interviewer rendered momentarily speechless. “But you can think of it like: it’s kinda like a game. And you just have to be smart about it,” she concludes crisply. “It’s a business.”
What about people like Nickelback? I don’t like them myself, but they got there with ‘How You Remind Me’ without ‘being pop’.
“Well, the song that broke them is just… a really, really good song,” Avril says, sounding slightly hurt. “And anyway,” she finishes, quite correctly, “it is a pop song.”
- See more at: www.hotpress.com/Avril-Lavigne/features/interviews/4-real/2651650.html#sthash.ERhY9N7p.dpuf
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Post by Cookie Monster on Jan 7, 2016 11:33:28 GMT
Yay, the website uses cookies
Thank you, Gabo . This is certainly a very precious article.
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Post by Jack on Jan 7, 2016 11:43:14 GMT
Yay, the website uses cookies
Thank you, Gabo . This is certainly a very precious article.
Yet another early statement that was discredited by her own words/acts later
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