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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 11, 2023 12:49:23 GMT
Not to be dramatic, but this really hurts my heart. When she talked about IFILWTD, she said she was in a really vulnerable place and that's how Rotem ended up in her life, and in it for as long as he was (she didn't name names but we all know it was him). She said it took her way too long to listen to her friends -IIRC she said it was the first time her friends had ever told her she needed to break up with someone. All of what's going on now feels eerily similar... Oh this looks badβ¦ this looks very familiar and thatβs not good.. I didnβt knew the facts she was saying that about IFILWTD.. I hope sheβll listen better now but it looks like sheβs maybe in that dark place again after the breakup from Mod.. I donβt want anything bad happen to her, I mean we donβt know her in real life but just like @adam83 said: sheβs our hero! It would break my heart to see anything bad happen..
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Post by damncoldnights on Mar 11, 2023 21:49:57 GMT
My concern is that Tyga pounced during PFW if you believe the source that said they were just friends back when the engagement explosion happened, and the source that said their romance was vey new when the kiss picture came out (plus she was holding hands with that other guy then night before), and she truly isnt thinking and is already his victim. This isnβt me trying to grasp at straws to defend her, I promise. *IF* they were originally just collabing on music or fashion or whatever (it would really help to know how they met/if a collab was set up by someone), Iβd be very suspicious that he realized during PFW that she was willing to rebound because sheβs upset about Mod, and took advantage of that vulnerability and sheβs already tangled up in his web. And as DC said, thought she could βhandle him.β Iβm not defending her choosing to work with him per se, but to me thereβs a difference if she was in a bad headspace and not thinking like herself, and then got sweet-talked by him. And so outside, it would seem like sheβs ignoring his past and all that, making fans/public turn on her, when in reality sheβs his victim already and is now losing support from fans/public which would only further isolate her, venturing into victim blaming territory. Hell, maybe heβs the one who told her/convinced her to turn off insta comments.
I do see her looking a bit Kardashian-y -i wonder if itβs the lip gloss sheβs been wearing, maybe even from one of the kardashian brands?). She doesnβt normally wear as much lip stuff as she wore at PFW, so itβs extra noticeable.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 11, 2023 23:30:05 GMT
Idk I donβt really buy that logic tbh because it makes it sound as if Avril has/had no agency or power to say no. Being in a bad place/not exactly thinking clearly doesnβt really lead to just jumping into another relationship straight away with someone you are just getting to know. If anything, it should have made her want to do the exact opposite and put a wall up while processing the breakup and not letting her guard down so she wouldnβt get even more hurt while she was already hurting.
I suspect the βtheyβre just friendsβ thing was only hearsay or maybe a statement put out by her reps to stop people from saying she cheated or whatever. She hugged him before getting into his car with him. We donβt know if it was just a friendly hug or something more, but I think the timeline of everything is more than originally suggested. I think her and Mod were done for longer than it seems and it just didnβt hit the press until around that time. And like others have thought, either Mod wasnβt even aware, or didnβt think they were truly over, and the press confirmed it for him officially. Meanwhile she had probably already moved on with Tyga.
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Post by damncoldnights on Mar 12, 2023 0:47:34 GMT
Idk I donβt really buy that logic tbh because it makes it sound as if Avril has/had no agency or power to say no. Being in a bad place/not exactly thinking clearly doesnβt really lead to just jumping into another relationship straight away with someone you are just getting to know. If anything, it should have made her want to do the exact opposite and put a wall up while processing the breakup and not letting her guard down so she wouldnβt get even more hurt while she was already hurting. I suspect the βtheyβre just friendsβ thing was only hearsay or maybe a statement put out by her reps to stop people from saying she cheated or whatever. She hugged him before getting into his car with him. We donβt know if it was just a friendly hug or something more, but I think the timeline of everything is more than originally suggested. I think her and Mod were done for longer than it seems and it just didnβt hit the press until around that time. And like others have thought, either Mod wasnβt even aware, or didnβt think they were truly over, and the press confirmed it for him officially. Meanwhile she had probably already moved on with Tyga. Didnβt mean to imply she COULDNβT say no. But when someoneβs in a bad place mentally and βloves falling in love/excitement of a new relationship,β they are far more likely to the alarm bells going off and to engage in reckless/self-destructive behavior. And itβs not like she doesnβt have a history of being impulsive when it comes to dating. I agree she would be more likely to not want to start a relationship after just getting her heart broken, but she may have been thinking (or talked into thinking) this would be harmless, unattached fun and not an actual relationship. Obviously happy to agree to disagree, just wanted to clarify what I meant
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Post by Anna on Mar 12, 2023 18:43:30 GMT
Idk I donβt really buy that logic tbh because it makes it sound as if Avril has/had no agency or power to say no. Being in a bad place/not exactly thinking clearly doesnβt really lead to just jumping into another relationship straight away with someone you are just getting to know. If anything, it should have made her want to do the exact opposite and put a wall up while processing the breakup and not letting her guard down so she wouldnβt get even more hurt while she was already hurting. I suspect the βtheyβre just friendsβ thing was only hearsay or maybe a statement put out by her reps to stop people from saying she cheated or whatever. She hugged him before getting into his car with him. We donβt know if it was just a friendly hug or something more, but I think the timeline of everything is more than originally suggested. I think her and Mod were done for longer than it seems and it just didnβt hit the press until around that time. And like others have thought, either Mod wasnβt even aware, or didnβt think they were truly over, and the press confirmed it for him officially. Meanwhile she had probably already moved on with Tyga. Didnβt mean to imply she COULDNβT say no. But when someoneβs in a bad place mentally and βloves falling in love/excitement of a new relationship,β they are far more likely to the alarm bells going off and to engage in reckless/self-destructive behavior. Β And itβs not like she doesnβt have a history of being impulsive when it comes to dating. Β I agree she would be more likely to not want to start a relationship after just getting her heart broken, but she may have been thinking (or talked into thinking) this would be harmless, unattached fun and not an actual relationship. Obviously happy to agree to disagree, just wanted to clarify what I meantΒ Are we talking about a nearly 40 year old woman having like 10 public relationships in 20 years, 4 engagements and 2 marriages behind her? One set of pictures from a famous please where sheβs not smiling in front of paparazzi shouldnβt be any signal of him being not good to her. Apart from his past, which suggests otherwise, but she loves bad boys, always loved. Mod Sun was also getting not very positive comments from her fans at the beginning, he earned the hearts. Let see what happens with her and Tyga in the couple of weeks. I do see her looking a bit Kardashian-y -i wonder if itβs the lip gloss sheβs been wearing, maybe even from one of the kardashian brands?). She doesnβt normally wear as much lip stuff as she wore at PFW, so itβs extra noticeable. A gift from Kourtney? Sheβs been around Kardashian-Jenner family since like 2010. Itβs quite funny how close to them she stays this or other way
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Post by katy on Mar 12, 2023 18:49:22 GMT
There will never be a day someone who hits women will win the heart of any of her sane fans
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 12, 2023 19:09:26 GMT
I hear where Anna is coming from because they are just pictures. But no I can't wait and see what happens with Tyga. He is BAD news and there's no benefit of doubt I'm going to give this guy. I barely did it with the others, friends/business included. I still don't like Mod Sun. I can feel bad for him but something in my gut has always said he's sus.
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Post by πΊπππππ . πͺππππ β
on Mar 12, 2023 20:22:17 GMT
I still don't like Mod Sun. I can feel bad for him but something in my gut has always said he's sus. ...? Can you go further in depth please ?
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Post by damncoldnights on Mar 13, 2023 1:05:28 GMT
Didnβt mean to imply she COULDNβT say no. But when someoneβs in a bad place mentally and βloves falling in love/excitement of a new relationship,β they are far more likely to the alarm bells going off and to engage in reckless/self-destructive behavior. And itβs not like she doesnβt have a history of being impulsive when it comes to dating. I agree she would be more likely to not want to start a relationship after just getting her heart broken, but she may have been thinking (or talked into thinking) this would be harmless, unattached fun and not an actual relationship. Obviously happy to agree to disagree, just wanted to clarify what I meant Are we talking about a nearly 40 year old woman having like 10 public relationships in 20 years, 4 engagements and 2 marriages behind her? One set of pictures from a famous please where sheβs not smiling in front of paparazzi shouldnβt be any signal of him being not good to her. Apart from his past, which suggests otherwise, but she loves bad boys, always loved. Mod Sun was also getting not very positive comments from her fans at the beginning, he earned the hearts. Let see what happens with her and Tyga in the couple of weeks. I do see her looking a bit Kardashian-y -i wonder if itβs the lip gloss sheβs been wearing, maybe even from one of the kardashian brands?). She doesnβt normally wear as much lip stuff as she wore at PFW, so itβs extra noticeable. A gift from Kourtney? Sheβs been around Kardashian-Jenner family since like 2010. Itβs quite funny how close to them she stays this or other way I don't want to veer too off-topic but I also didn't want to not respond to you, so I'll do my best to stay mostly on-topic. As far as I know she's only had 3 engagements, Rotem (very likely him) proposed but she rejected. I'm a bit confused about what her age and number of relationships has to do with what's going on with her now, could you please expand on what you meant?
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Post by Crush on Mar 13, 2023 5:04:45 GMT
I just see it as sheβll do what she will do. I donβt agree with it, think itβs an awful move from her and Iβm really disappointed in her, but thereβs nothing we can do about it. Just enjoy her music and see what happens. She has enough people around that maybe one of them will get her to see sense, but for me the damage is already done as getting with someone with his background is something she should never have done to start with. Iβve often thought these days im a fan of her music, not necessarily her as a person and I think sheβs kind of cemented that for me now. Itβs definitely fair to be concerned for her but just remember thereβs nothing anyone here can really do, or anything her friends can really do if sheβs set on her decision. I agree. Overall, I'm still just super shocked at this seemingly random relationship with Tyga (out of all people) for many reasons and am not even sure how to verbalize all my thoughts on it. I've been down this road before, when an artist you love so much does things you don't agree with or are even hurt by or scared for, but there's such an extensive history of influence, admiration and support that it's just... well, shocking and hard to process I've also had friends in this situation where there was nothing I could do or say to change their mind, drove me crazy actually and I cried a lot. Ruined my health (mental and physical) over these things several times and I couldn't sleep or eat right. I never want to go through that ever again -and I won't let myself. One of my biggest life lessons is that you really can't help people who don't want to be helped. It's also frustrating when it's someone far from your reach, i.e. a celebrity like Avril and you just hope they'll be fine. I also can't escape the fact that in this case, no matter what Mod may have possibly done/not done, two wrongs like this don't make a right. I'm devastated at how she's handled this breakup. But I guess the best I can personally do is distance myself from her as a person and take care of my own happiness as best as I can. I hope she figures herself out.
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Post by Monet β₯ on Mar 13, 2023 12:04:26 GMT
Iβm curious to see what happens when she returns home, if she will enter the studio again, prepare for the Junos, get into rehearsals, or just lay low. If I were her, Iβd lay down π
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 13, 2023 17:51:57 GMT
I still don't like Mod Sun. I can feel bad for him but something in my gut has always said he's sus. Β ...? Can you go further in depth please ?Β Sure it's nothing that hasn't been said before and it's all opinion. His history with messy breakups online. Avril is hurting her image alone so throw that out the window? All the pap stuff at the beginning of the relationship. I remember it was a lot from that company influencers call themselves. The way he talked about her like putting her on a pedastal. Avril's song+his friend's comment. It looks more like she was his crutch then a supporting partner. The π tweet with his new song revenge. He jumped to revenge real quick and how things went I don't blame him. I predict we're gonna hear from this dude for a few more years.
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Post by πΊπππππ . πͺππππ β
on Mar 13, 2023 22:58:01 GMT
Β ...? Can you go further in depth please ?Β Sure it's nothing that hasn't been said before and it's all opinion. His history with messy breakups online. Avril is hurting her image alone so throw that out the window? All the pap stuff at the beginning of the relationship. I remember it was a lot from that company influencers call themselves. The way he talked about her like putting her on a pedastal. Avril's song+his friend's comment. It looks more like she was his crutch then a supporting partner. The π tweet with his new song revenge. He jumped to revenge real quick and how things went I don't blame him. I predict we're gonna hear from this dude for a few more years. Thank you! π
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Post by bornxchaos on Mar 16, 2023 4:02:29 GMT
Didnβt mean to imply she COULDNβT say no. But when someoneβs in a bad place mentally and βloves falling in love/excitement of a new relationship,β they are far more likely to the alarm bells going off and to engage in reckless/self-destructive behavior. Β And itβs not like she doesnβt have a history of being impulsive when it comes to dating. Β I agree she would be more likely to not want to start a relationship after just getting her heart broken, but she may have been thinking (or talked into thinking) this would be harmless, unattached fun and not an actual relationship. Obviously happy to agree to disagree, just wanted to clarify what I meantΒ Are we talking about a nearly 40 year old woman having like 10 public relationships in 20 years, 4 engagements and 2 marriages behind her? One set of pictures from a famous please where sheβs not smiling in front of paparazzi shouldnβt be any signal of him being not good to her. Apart from his past, which suggests otherwise, but she loves bad boys, always loved. Mod Sun was also getting not very positive comments from her fans at the beginning, he earned the hearts. Let see what happens with her and Homer Simpson in the couple of weeks. I do see her looking a bit Kardashian-y -i wonder if itβs the lip gloss sheβs been wearing, maybe even from one of the kardashian brands?). She doesnβt normally wear as much lip stuff as she wore at PFW, so itβs extra noticeable. A gift from Kourtney? Sheβs been around Kardashian-Jenner family since like 2010. Itβs quite funny how close to them she stays this or other way
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Post by bornxchaos on Mar 16, 2023 4:09:51 GMT
Iβm curious to see what happens when she returns home, if she will enter the studio again, prepare for the Junos, get into rehearsals, or just lay low. If I were her, Iβd lay down π I know! I have been worrying not stop about her since she broke up with Mod and started dating Tyga. Though I do think Mod was a little too overbearing when he was with her, Avril would be quite private and likes to keep cuddling away from the press but Mod was trying to kiss and cuddle her on the stage while she was singing and going live and trying to get her on. Not to mention getting her name tattooed and making songs about her. He also was spilling too much in interviews about saying he was tempted to get back into drugs because he was around them alot then saying he wanted to get married and have children π I do think she dodged a bullet but I still feel for Mod. I have the feeling she has broke up with Tyga by the looks of things too. I would love to see her just be her again and not jumping into a relationship but just taking time to find herself truly because I don't think the fashion she is wearing is 'her'. I think she was in a great place before she met Mod tbh.
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