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Post by Uncle Bob on Sept 25, 2015 14:24:31 GMT
It's not time to panic. It's not time to get angry. Nothing is "confirmed" because Lewis said so. Even if Sharifa herself confirms she has no plans to bring the original site back, she is free to leave things as they are now. Absolutely nothing has changed. Unless and until she revokes the permissions she has given, no changes are needed. Even then, the changes required would be minimal.
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Post by sam on Sept 25, 2015 15:50:35 GMT
^ That's kind of missing the point however- the reason why many of us are talking about change is because this is the first piece of news we've found out about the site since March- we've tried to contact Sharifa several times and yet we found out the situation in a random Facebook comment. Lewis may be an inactive admin- but he was one of the "Big three" taking charge of the site for a while, Sharifa must of told them that the site isn't coming back, as they did mange the site (while very minimally) because Sharifa was doing other things in her life. I remember Lewis telling me he'll be back when the site was back- must of told Sharifa also.
Even if what Lewis was saying isn't true, the majority of the staff aren't pleased how the higher ups have treated us; hence why we are talking about a new site or a site domain name change/leaving the Bandaids staff team. Most of us want to try and start anew because of the circumstances. Even if we did just carry on as normal like this, how long would we do it? The comments written suggest that they view this as the new bandaids- Sharifa knows this was just a temp site to hold the members over for a few months as it was implied alot of progress as made and it'd be back soon. That's why we want to try and see if we can run this site independently under new management plus a dedicated staff team that won't leave it to rot. And this has been a thought for a while before this comment was written- it's only been highlighted now because this is almost like a final straw to many of us. We've voluntarily kept the user-base alive (or at least helped) we didn't have to; but at least a message about the site or an update every so often would of been nice and it would of been the least they could do for us.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 25, 2015 17:20:58 GMT
Yeah and I also think IMO that as long as we kind of know that the old site isn't coming back, it would be much nicer to have a real full website that is ours instead of just a forum on ProBoards. And who says that we would "lose" any members or lose time? If we left the temp forum up while a new site was being worked on we would still be able to have activity here just like normal and the temp forum could even just be left as a backup for times when the site needs maintenance and things like that. No time or members lost. And if cost is an issue I'm sure most of us here would be willing to give even just $1 to help out. I think we all enjoy this site enough to want to do whatever we can to help and make it the best it can be. Out with the old, in with the new.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Sept 25, 2015 17:21:36 GMT
That's why we want to try and see if we can run this site independently under new management plus a dedicated staff team that won't leave it to rot. The current staff has been doing a fine job of running this forum "independently" since its inception. It's yours. You own it. You've also been operating without any interference. I sympathize with you. The lack of support and communication is regrettable. Until there is some form of interference, I would recommend you maintain the status quo. I don't see any benefit to declaring your independence. As long as Sharifa is content to leave things as they are, her landing page will continue to drive traffic to your forum. There is value to being able to operate under the bandaids banner. Why rock the boat until circumstances force a change?
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Post by sam on Sept 25, 2015 17:28:32 GMT
That's why we want to try and see if we can run this site independently under new management plus a dedicated staff team that won't leave it to rot. The current staff has been doing a fine job of running this forum "independently" since its inception. It's yours. You own it. You've also been operating without any interference. I sympathize with you. The lack of support and communication is regrettable. Until there is some form of interference, I would recommend you maintain the status quo. I don't see any benefit to declaring your independence. As long as Sharifa is content to leave things as they are, her landing page will continue to drive traffic to your forum. There is value to being able to operate under the bandaids banner. Why rock the boat until circumstances force a change? Agreed- the redirect netted us alot of members and around 4-8K of Pageviews and Forum requests a day. However, I think the reason why we want change now is more of the fact of how we've been treated rather the forum never coming back, I just guess that despite the traffic it doesn't sit well with us that we should still promote and maintain her brand after everything. We are going to wait until Francy speaks to Sharifa to decide what to do; I suppose the benefit is that we won't feel like puppets anymore, but it's more of a moral decision than a forced one. But we will see what happens after we get the info from Francesca.
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Post by sam on Sept 25, 2015 17:31:08 GMT
Yeah and I also think IMO that as long as we kind of know that the old site isn't coming back, it would be much nicer to have a real full website that is ours instead of just a forum on ProBoards. And who says that we would "lose" any members or lose time? If we left the temp forum up while a new site was being worked on we would still be able to have activity here just like normal and the temp forum could even just be left as a backup for times when the site needs maintenance and things like that. No time or members lost. And if cost is an issue I'm sure most of us here would be willing to give even just $1 to help out. I think we all enjoy this site enough to want to do whatever we can to help and make it the best it can be. Out with the old, in with the new. As much as a paid domain would be really good cost is an issue, domains are paid monthly and we can't afford that- nor do we have experience (marliz might) in making a website in that fashion; I know there's free board software out there etc but ProBoards has been a fantastic service for being free; we get unlimited traffic, members, ect with a few restrictions that are more than fair; if we ever had the money though ProBoards offers a premium forum service @ forums.net and it's fully transferable with your existing PB forum including a domain name like .com. The cheapest is $10 a month but if you want a domain it's $18 a month. But personally I wouldn't want to have a site running purely on donations and the like.
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Post by Becky on Sept 25, 2015 18:07:30 GMT
I'm really not knowledgeable about these things, but I wanted to say that I think BogoGog24 (Can I call you Andrea?)'s idea is a great one, but I see that the cost is an issue and why you wouldn't want to run it on donations. It would be fantastic to have our own site but I'm happy with proboards, it does the job well and that's all we really need. You staff have been treated unfairly and if we move to a new forum we'll all find a way over to it.
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Post by sk8erboi1000 on Sept 25, 2015 20:41:00 GMT
I'm pretty new here but I love it and I would hate to see this site go it is the best fan site ever ( While I was a member of the old BandAids but this was a long time ago and I didn't use it. Now I want to be a good member and make lots of posts and id be sad if this site went away
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Post by sam on Sept 25, 2015 20:44:36 GMT
I'm pretty new here but I love it and I would hate to see this site go it is the best fan site ever ( While I was a member of the old BandAids but this was a long time ago and I didn't use it. Now I want to be a good member and make lots of posts and id be sad if this site went away Don't worry- I can -almost- promise this site will still be alive in some form, that being a new site or just this site We'll keep you updated! Even if we lose this site we can always make another.
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Post by katy on Sept 25, 2015 21:23:35 GMT
Prefer it here anyway - some of the admins on the old site did my head in, much better group here
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Post by KerimS06 on Sept 25, 2015 23:05:33 GMT
why dont we just get in touch with Avril about this situation? I think that she also wouldnt want to see her biggest fan-site to be crushed with this situation. Francy also can message this thread on twitter to Avril. I know you guys probably think like "what can Avril do with this situation?". But at least she can talk with Sharifa about it and after Avril's involvement, i think they will probably show us a new path.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 25, 2015 23:28:32 GMT
Pretty sure Avril is too busy fighting Lyme disease to care right now. And I'm also pretty certain we've never involved Avril in site issues. She knows the site exists and has met some of its members, and we also got to interview her once. That's really it. We don't need to bother her with this and there's nothing she can do to help anyway, this shouldn't be her concern.
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Post by francyavril on Sept 25, 2015 23:28:46 GMT
Hello guys! I was talking to Amanda about the situation. First of all, I ask you all to be a little patient. I will be in the US soon, and i'm meeting up with Sharifa in less than 2 weeks. In this occasion I will ask more details about the situation with the forum (like if it's ever gonna come back, if there's a way to fix it or to move it, if we have to remake it from zero etc etc.) I will then mention the fact that the staff and the community is a little bit "lost" since the main leader and owner of the forum isn't present any longer. I think Sharifa still cares a lot about Avril, but just has different priorities in her life. That's the reason why I think pass Bandaids on to another person would be the best solution. Bandaids has always been the biggest fandom. Fans need it back and Avril herself needs it. She's always had special treats for Bandaids and Bandaids has always been a space for all the fans from all around the world. For this reason i don't think that closing down the forum and making a new one with a different name etc would be smart. Let's see what the situation with the website is, and if there's no turning back, i'm gonna ask at least for the rights to use Bandaids name and make a new website etc. I'll be back to you as soon as i can
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Post by sk8erboi1000 on Sept 26, 2015 0:52:20 GMT
why dont we just get in touch with Avril about this situation? I think that she also wouldnt want to see her biggest fan-site to be crushed with this situation. Francy also can message this thread on twitter to Avril. I know you guys probably think like "what can Avril do with this situation?". But at least she can talk with Sharifa about it and after Avril's involvement, i think they will probably show us a new path. I really dont think its that easy to just contact Avril like shes in everyones number list. Besides she is still getting over Lyme Disease and wouldnt want to bother her with such things.
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Post by edd on Sept 26, 2015 1:30:38 GMT
So, guys... Don't know how many of you remember me, but I was EDD.BR on the official Bandaids, and I made the account in this temp. forum when I saw it appeared, but I was thinking about the final version never coming, yeah. It was taking too long, but then I had some hope again when this one was released. I just want you to know that I love being in here, and that this community means a lot to me, I've always checked Avril news here and on AvrilMidia.com (I'm Brazilian) and I wanted to say that whatever you decide to do, I will be with you, if you want to rebuild everything from zero, count on me. I was waiting for the new version of the site to start entering on the forums on a daily basis like I used to, but I saw this thread, so I'm here to say I'm back. Whatever you need, send me a message, I will try to help. see ya!
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