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Post by BogoGog24 on May 30, 2024 22:44:12 GMT
Yes I can’t believe they are bringing old merch back! Hope they still have it when the second leg comes around but maybe they are only doing it because it’s LA and probably one of the biggest shows?
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Post by erikvaze on May 30, 2024 22:59:58 GMT
Yes I can’t believe they are bringing old merch back! Hope they still have it when the second leg comes around but maybe they are only doing it because it’s LA and probably one of the biggest shows? I’m sure they’ll have some leftovers and she might sell it on her website sooner (I WISH) I still wanna have pink skull t-shirt, dumb blonde white t-shirt and some from bonez tour 💕
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 23:04:48 GMT
As I've mentioned several times in this thread, complaints about the setlist, stage, etc., are totally understandable. I even endorsed them. But criticizing a woman for her body movements, facial expressions, twitches, etc., is another matter. But feel free to choose whatever you want to emphasize your point. I stand by what I said, just need to flip back a few pages. This has to be a joke right? What is the difference between a man and a woman when it comes to body movements, facial expressions and twitches? We're all human, gender doesn't affect these things (unless she was pregnant and she couldn't move around as much) This clearly shows how low the level of social literacy of some people can be, because I haven't said any of this. The issue is how society perceives, demands, and judges gender differently for doing the same things. But just like people say about Avril, I'm also too lazy to talk about this.
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 23:17:43 GMT
The reason why Pink is still relevant is NOT because she releases albums every two years... lol! First, because this is not true. Just checking her latest albums Funhouse (2008) to The Truth About Love (2012): 4 years, The Truth About Love (2012) to Beautiful Trauma (2017): 5 years, Beautiful Trauma (2017) to Hurts 2B Human (2019): 2 years, Hurts 2B Human (2019) to Trustfall (2023): 4 years. It's exactly like when someone said that Christina was putting on a better show while she is only singing 14 to 15 songs in her setlist for each concert of her on-going tour... which is exactly or even less than Avril. It seems like people are just using common sense and unreal statements to try and prove a point they want to believe, and to put Avril down using unreal examples.
The reason why Pink is still relevant is because she is under a label that invests money in her. After years of career, is not enough to expect success to be 100% organic. Pink and Justin Timberlake are the only artists who have never had real trouble under RCA. Kelly, Avril, Britney, Miley, Alicia Keys, they all had problems, but Pink never did. She is still there cause she's supported by her label. They always invest money in her, and her songs are heavily promoted through radio campaigns and payola. And I'll never judge her. You need to stick where you get support and resources.
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Post by TomX on May 30, 2024 23:23:19 GMT
Unfortunately, the venue already confirmed the old merch is for today only and it will be limited, and to make things even more sad, they said it will never be produced again. Such a loss for all of us who wanted to get old school merch. It would’ve been a great feature
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Post by afonso16 on May 30, 2024 23:41:24 GMT
It's exactly like when someone said that Christina was putting on a better show while she is only singing 14 to 15 songs in her setlist for each concert of her on-going tour... which is exactly or even less than Avril. It seems like people are just using common sense and unreal statements to try and prove a point they want to believe, and to put Avril down using unreal examples. As Avril said after the Hello Kitty mv fiasco "LOLOLOL". 1) I never said that. 2) You were the one making comparisons and putting down every artist under the sun to uplift Avril in the first place. Pot calling the kettle black...
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 30, 2024 23:43:21 GMT
Unfortunately, the venue already confirmed the old merch is for today only and it will be limited, and to make things even more sad, they said it will never be produced again. Such a loss for all of us who wanted to get old school merch. It would’ve been a great feature Damn that sucks, they could easily make bank by offering it at all shows. I was so looking forward to maybe being able to buy something like I have always wanted the LG era silhouette hoodie, I think I saw a shirt of it. Maybe if there’s enough fan demand they will reproduce some of the items? I mean, hey, your fans WANT to give you money! lol
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Post by Razorqo21 on May 30, 2024 23:45:40 GMT
The reason why Pink is still relevant is NOT because she releases albums every two years... lol! First, because this is not true. Just checking her latest albums Funhouse (2008) to The Truth About Love (2012): 4 years, The Truth About Love (2012) to Beautiful Trauma (2017): 5 years, Beautiful Trauma (2017) to Hurts 2B Human (2019): 2 years, Hurts 2B Human (2019) to Trustfall (2023): 4 years. It's exactly like when someone said that Christina was putting on a better show while she is only singing 14 to 15 songs in her setlist for each concert of her on-going tour... which is exactly or even less than Avril. It seems like people are just using common sense and unreal statements to try and prove a point they want to believe, and to put Avril down using unreal examples. The reason why Pink is still relevant is because she is under a label that invests money in her. After years of career, is not enough to expect success to be 100% organic. Pink and Justin Timberlake are the only artists who have never had real trouble under RCA. Kelly, Avril, Britney, Miley, Alicia Keys, they all had problems, but Pink never did. She is still there cause she's supported by her label. They always invest money in her, and her songs are heavily promoted through radio campaigns and payola. And I'll never judge her. You need to stick where you get support and resources. Please research it better next time because between 2008 and 2012 she released GH album (2010) then she had bigger success with TTAL and she released Just Like Fire single (2015) which was decent song as well the same year The Albums... So Far! and then Beautiful Trauma and between 2B Human she released Greatest Hits... So Far in 2019. Literally every second year u can hear about her and others I mentioned edit: I forgot mention "All I Know So Far" in 2021
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Post by katy on May 31, 2024 0:14:52 GMT
The reason why Pink is still relevant is NOT because she releases albums every two years... lol! First, because this is not true. Just checking her latest albums Funhouse (2008) to The Truth About Love (2012): 4 years, The Truth About Love (2012) to Beautiful Trauma (2017): 5 years, Beautiful Trauma (2017) to Hurts 2B Human (2019): 2 years, Hurts 2B Human (2019) to Trustfall (2023): 4 years. It's exactly like when someone said that Christina was putting on a better show while she is only singing 14 to 15 songs in her setlist for each concert of her on-going tour... which is exactly or even less than Avril. It seems like people are just using common sense and unreal statements to try and prove a point they want to believe, and to put Avril down using unreal examples. The reason why Pink is still relevant is because she is under a label that invests money in her. After years of career, is not enough to expect success to be 100% organic. Pink and Justin Timberlake are the only artists who have never had real trouble under RCA. Kelly, Avril, Britney, Miley, Alicia Keys, they all had problems, but Pink never did. She is still there cause she's supported by her label. They always invest money in her, and her songs are heavily promoted through radio campaigns and payola. And I'll never judge her. You need to stick where you get support and resources. Nobody said Christina puts on a better show. They said she’s a good vocalist and performer. A 15 song setlist is crap no matter who the artist - this isn’t just a bone people pick with Avril and think it’s ok for others. It’s poor from ANY artist at this point of their career. Real examples from the artists I have tickets for this year, and their most recent setlists from their own tours: Avril: 17 (3 shortened) Megan Moroney: 18 songs (0 shortened - only has one album) Alkaline Trio: 20 songs (0 shortened) Morgan Wallen: 25 songs (0 shortened) Taylor Swift: 45 songs (14 shortened) This is why a lot of people aren’t particularly impressed by Avril adding songs. Shes still doing less than most artists AND shortening them. People aren’t just making things up to put down Avril.
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Post by katy on May 31, 2024 0:32:35 GMT
That merch stand looks GREAT. Shame it’s only for one show - I hateeeeee when one show gets special treatment like that lol. Happens all the time with artists. Always seems to be LA for the US? It’s always London here. It’s like, other cities exist lol, we have fans too! We have money too! We want to buy cool stuff too!
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 31, 2024 0:46:57 GMT
Maybe today is the day she will bring breakaway to the setlist (I much prefer nobody's home or keep holding on tho)
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Post by blackmage on May 31, 2024 1:08:09 GMT
It's exactly like when someone said that Christina was putting on a better show while she is only singing 14 to 15 songs in her setlist for each concert of her on-going tour... which is exactly or even less than Avril. It seems like people are just using common sense and unreal statements to try and prove a point they want to believe, and to put Avril down using unreal examples. As Avril said after the Hello Kitty mv fiasco "LOLOLOL". 1) I never said that. 2) You were the one making comparisons and putting down every artist under the sun to uplift Avril in the first place. Pot calling the kettle black... Saying that Christina is no longer a good vocalist and that Britney hasn't been a good dancer since 2003 due to health problems is definitely not about putting people down to elevate Avril, especially because what I literally said is that she is not that far from her peers and that they all failed. I wasn't the one bringing up Christina, Britney, and Pink - who I actually praised. And yeah, I stand by what I said. Avril isn't significantly different from her peers, they all faced struggles to mantain what they proposed to be in the stage. A vocalist who failed to be good and consistent in delivering vocals; a performer who failed to be a consistent dancer; a professional rocker failed to maintain its attitude as well. Standards are low for all and Pink is the only exception.
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Post by Kaiye on May 31, 2024 1:53:21 GMT
Curious to see today's show, outfit and setlist! FYI to those saying her guitar is basically muted. Yes, she's done that consistently in the past, but this time her guitar is quite loud compared to previous tours. You can hear it on clearly on HW and on MHE. I can’t hear anything on MHE. She’s just randomly strumming 'Bite Me'-G-D-A. Quite mindlessly.
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Post by TomX on May 31, 2024 2:15:06 GMT
I wonder what the odds are this show is recorded. LA seems to be THE place to record a show if you're planning to release it officially.
Does anyone know if Glastonbury will be streamed or if it's usually streamed? I remember Miley's concert was streamed back in 2019, but not sure if that's the norm there.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 31, 2024 2:16:36 GMT
I'm still confused how artists like Xtina or Britney etc. are even relevant in this conversation. Avril is not the same kind of artist they are. I looked up Christina's set and it seems like she's shortening a lot of songs or using video interludes for an already short song list, however her catalog is a lot more vocally demanding than Avril's (I assume). 15 vocally demanding songs is not the same thing as a dozen or so relatively easy songs with a few that are actually hard to sing. Plus I imagine Christina's voice has taken a hit from the years and years of vocal load she's put onto it, much like Mariah, that she probably can't sing that much or that well anymore. Avril probably has the same issue and why she frequently dodges high notes or sings everything an octave lower (FAH) to save her voice for basically IWY.
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