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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 15, 2024 17:08:40 GMT
She had backing vocalists during TBDT era but I seem to remember the fans really hated them, they were gone after that album. Her band does the backing vocals most of the time. The use of backing tracks these days is pretty common anyway, especially if she’s playing in big arenas or festivals with thousands of people, you really need the tracks to build out the sound and be heard more.
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Post by biggerwow on Jun 15, 2024 17:14:54 GMT
No one is going to mention how creepy the second review started?
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Post by biggerwow on Jun 15, 2024 17:20:16 GMT
She had backing vocalists during TBDT era but I seem to remember the fans really hated them, they were gone after that album. Her band does the backing vocals most of the time. The use of backing tracks these days is pretty common anyway, especially if she’s playing in big arenas or festivals with thousands of people, you really need the tracks to build out the sound and be heard more. we all know why fans hated it though. They were more like cheerleaders. She would do great with a real background singer (not that the other girls weren't idk tbh). It might help with the on/off days with vocals.
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Post by melissavandella on Jun 15, 2024 17:23:54 GMT
No one is going to mention how creepy the second review started? It was written by a woman which is even worse. 💀
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Post by blackmage on Jun 15, 2024 18:44:13 GMT
Some of the comments are valid, like her getting out of breath easily. However, her energy was there, and the public seemed interested based on the videos. I have a feeling that most of the negative comments are rooted in misogyny and the fact that Avril even dared to perform at a rock festival. Most of these comments are by men who probably weren't at her stage or the festival at all. I'm not saying it was perfect or that she's the best performer ever, but some of the comments are just men being men. We'll continue to see comments like these until the end of the festival dates. I felt exactly the same, but I avoid mentioning it because the last time I said something similar, it wasn't well received. But starting a review by calling her the 'heroine of wet dreams'? That's gross.
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Post by Razorqo21 on Jun 15, 2024 18:52:13 GMT
I mean someone even care about reviews? I dont and I think she dont care as well. Doesnt matter how she is those people came to see her anyway. And even bad review is review. At least she reminded herself to people
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Post by katy on Jun 15, 2024 18:57:42 GMT
I watched bits of the videos and the performances seem to be what I was expecting - just ok, pretty standard Avril not blowing anyone away but it’s not a bad performance, not great either. I think she gets by with the festival crowds because her older songs are so iconic, people have fun regardless of if she looks bored/out of breath. I can see why people reviewing the shows wouldn’t be hugely impressed with the actual performance compared to other artists though.
They do need to figure something out for the time she spends offstage though. It was an issue at the LS tour too.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 15, 2024 19:02:14 GMT
She had backing vocalists during TBDT era but I seem to remember the fans really hated them, they were gone after that album. Her band does the backing vocals most of the time. The use of backing tracks these days is pretty common anyway, especially if she’s playing in big arenas or festivals with thousands of people, you really need the tracks to build out the sound and be heard more. we all know why fans hated it though. They were more like cheerleaders. She would do great with a real background singer (not that the other girls weren't idk tbh). It might help with the on/off days with vocals. I’m not sure I can picture Avril using a backup vocalist, other than TBDT era, it’s just never been part of her brand. I do think she’s attached to the “band” vibe and backup singers don’t really fit into that. Backup vocalists make sense for performers like Taylor, Ariana, Miley, etc. I just can’t picture it with Avril for some reason.
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Post by blackmage on Jun 15, 2024 19:32:07 GMT
Having backing vocals with a voice similar to hers would be helpful. That's what a lot of artists do: they hire people whose voices sound like theirs to provide support. However, I don't think Avril will ever do that again. I feel like she likes to be the only woman on stage with a full band. Even during the TBDT Tour, the background singers supposedly had to dye their hair or wear wigs so she would be the only blonde and the spotlight wouldn't be divided.
Honestly, I know this is controversial, but it's becoming clearer each day that she really needs these pauses to catch her breath due to some limitation. They haven't figured out yet how to do this without slowing down the concert. Maybe the band could play a full instrumental interlude or have a brief solo segment to maintain the energy, cause just playin the same riff over and over again, till she's back on the stage, may be boring.
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Post by biggerwow on Jun 15, 2024 19:38:09 GMT
we all know why fans hated it though. They were more like cheerleaders. She would do great with a real background singer (not that the other girls weren't idk tbh). It might help with the on/off days with vocals. I’m not sure I can picture Avril using a backup vocalist, other than TBDT era, it’s just never been part of her brand. I do think she’s attached to the “band” vibe and backup singers don’t really fit into that. Backup vocalists make sense for performers like Taylor, Ariana, Miley, etc. I just can’t picture it with Avril for some reason. I can't picture it either she loves the band aesthetic and she's not singing those kinds of songs even though she has a few. She also doesn't want to change the arrangements so it would just look awkward even though I think it would really help her. Although who knows she might still dodge the high notes anyway.
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Post by kessel1993 on Jun 15, 2024 19:42:40 GMT
@1st regarding the reviews: She was good comparing to the start of the GH-concerts. But festival-people will always compare her with triple A-artists Like Bring Me The Horizon. In fact she is, but she is not a Triple A-performer with a breathtaking show…
@2nd regarding her breaks/breath: we ALL know she has a very difficult health history and is not 18 anymore. So it is VERY okay to leave the stage for having some kind of break. It would help if she (or her PR-team) would make this a topic to give us a behind-the-scene footage. Even if it is just her saying „between my set I just need 5 mins to calm down and drink tea“. Believe me it would increase her image as a „lazy performer who always disappears“
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Post by Razorqo21 on Jun 15, 2024 19:52:18 GMT
maybe it will be in documentary
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Post by eismann on Jun 15, 2024 20:02:45 GMT
During LS Tour she was disappearing so many times and sometimes it felt like she was gone 10 minutes which felt too long and killed the mood. I wish she would take shorter breaks and maybe chill while chatting a bit to tye crowd, sit down on stage, do a small acoustic set - or find something to entertain the crowd that isnt a boring video or her band playing the same melody for 10 minutes...
She could bring her opener and they could play a cover of one of her songs. Or maybe show a fun video that seems live (like when Taylor Swift is diving under the stage).
I'm sure she needs those breaks and tht is absolutely fine to me. But she needs to find a way to not let it kill the mood.
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Post by blackmage on Jun 15, 2024 20:43:16 GMT
@1st regarding the reviews: She was good comparing to the start of the GH-concerts. But festival-people will always compare her with triple A-artists Like Bring Me The Horizon. In fact she is, but she is not a Triple A-performer with a breathtaking show… @2nd regarding her breaks/breath: we ALL know she has a very difficult health history and is not 18 anymore. So it is VERY okay to leave the stage for having some kind of break. It would help if she (or her PR-team) would make this a topic to give us a behind-the-scene footage. Even if it is just her saying „between my set I just need 5 mins to calm down and drink tea“. Believe me it would increase her image as a „lazy performer who always disappears“ Agreed with everything. It would be interesting for her narrative to show some behind-the-scenes moments. At the same time, I think she doesn't like to reveal her vulnerabilities or keep talking about her health history. Though I like the idea, I doubt they would show it. That's why I think she should invest in enhancing her band's performance during her pauses or add a more engaging video. Perhaps a pre-recorded "live" interlude on the screen of her singing a shortened version of one of her songs before she returns to the stage to sing live again. But after all the arrangements she has made since the beginning of the tour, this detail is minor... but solving it would address the remaining criticism.
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Post by blackmage on Jun 15, 2024 21:02:47 GMT
During LS Tour she was disappearing so many times and sometimes it felt like she was gone 10 minutes which felt too long and killed the mood. I wish she would take shorter breaks and maybe chill while chatting a bit to tye crowd, sit down on stage, do a small acoustic set - or find something to entertain the crowd that isnt a boring video or her band playing the same melody for 10 minutes... She could bring her opener and they could play a cover of one of her songs. Or maybe show a fun video that seems live (like when Taylor Swift is diving under the stage). I'm sure she needs those breaks and tht is absolutely fine to me. But she needs to find a way to not let it kill the mood. An acoustic set is like the best idea that she keeps dodging for whatever reason. Maybe she just wants to keep her concerts full of energy.
But I just remembered that Green Day had a mascot that they use during their concerts for moments like this, when they need a break, to avoid killing the mood. Even if it's not a great idea for her type of concerts, it's a reminder that something can be done even when a stage setup revolves around a full band. But I'm not sure if it'd be a good ideia for her to reuse Bearshark or whatever. I'm afraid it would turn out to be cringey.
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