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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 19, 2024 12:49:50 GMT
What’s the link between NH and the death theory? Honestly she seemed completely unbothered by all that in the podcast she did not long ago. Yeah if anything Avril said she thought, all things considered, she “got a good one” and didn’t think it was that weird of a theory. Even though it definitely is weird lol But she seemed to take it in stride and even kind of laughed about it. She probably knows what worse things could be said about her (there are probably worse things that even HAVE been said about her) and there are several celebrities that have this theory said about them. She doesn’t seem to take too many things in life that seriously.
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Post by Kaiye on Jun 19, 2024 17:32:09 GMT
Actual greatest hits
Complicated Sk8er Boi I’m with You Losing Grip Things I’ll Never Say Tomorrow Knocking On Heavens Door Don’t tell me My happy ending Nobody’s home (THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE. Even the people who are not fans LOVE this song, once they heard it) Fall to pieces Girlfriend When you’re gone Innocence Hot Keep holding On What the Hell Wish you were here Here’s to Never Growing Up Let Me Go Head Above Water Bite Me
I don’t know why the fuck she can’t play at least this. Honestly it’s not too much to ask for. That should be the minimum.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jun 19, 2024 17:38:11 GMT
Of course, we can't prove it, but it seems clear that she "doesn't like" to perform NH because the song is so stigmatized by the theory. Maybe one day she'll get over it. I feel she's slowly becoming less uncomfortable with it, but it still affects her. Maybe after Lyme, she doesn't like being associated with death hoaxes, as she doesn't seem to be comfortable talking about it anymore. It's a process. I think one day, when she's ready, she'll reintroduce it. Having conflicted emotions is normal for every human being, and we'll have to wait. But I have high expectations that she is closer to reconciling with this song. Btw, this is just an opinion. 😂😂😂😂 Avril avoids this song since the beggining of "The Best Damn Thing" era. She performed it only once (Roxy Theatre 2007) during that era. She only performed it 4/5 times during "Goodbye Lullaby" era (Black Star Tour concerts in Latin America) cause fans begged for her to do it. Same for Self-titled era (LATAM concerts). The conspirancy theory became worldwide known only in 2014, back when she had that terrible M&G in Brazil. Even in Brazil, this theory wasn't a thing before GL era. Maybe she doesn't like to perform her most serious and matured songs... see what happened with Avalanche. She just did it live cause her fans begged her to do it (once again) and apparentely it was a "hit" in Brazil (iTunes Brazil Sales 😂).
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Post by blackmage on Jun 19, 2024 20:32:24 GMT
I don't think Nobody's Home for her (40yo) and us (around our 30s) is as mature as some of you suggest, but okay... lol. It's one of my favorites of her FOR SURE (!), but I disagree with this ideia. Everyone is entitled to their opinions tho. I think there are many more mature songs on her setlist, including Head Above Water, which some people said she should skip. As I said before, maybe we just want our favorites to be performed, especially the most nostalgic ones.
That's why when she's performing her most recent songs (HAW, LIWYHM) some people say they don't fit and request old ones... and at the same time we blame her for focusing on nostalgia. It's hard to find some balance.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Jun 19, 2024 20:50:05 GMT
Avril wrote Nobody's Home about a girl in her high school so that's what the song is about. Maybe she feels weird if she sings about a girl that went to her school live everyday since now she is almost 40
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Post by agathachloe on Jun 19, 2024 21:12:24 GMT
When Avril likes or dislikes singing a song live, there’s no denying it. I think she enjoys performing “All the Small Things” because it’s like a little “break” during the show, even though it’s not an actual pause. She also used to insist on singing “I Always Get What I Want” for quite some time.
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Post by eismann on Jun 19, 2024 21:14:53 GMT
I wish I could have seen this tour. It's too bad she is only playing festivals in Germany this time... I thought I wouldnt be sad cause I saw her last year but seeing all these videos, I would love to see her again!
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Post by ame · 雨 on Jun 19, 2024 21:15:11 GMT
I do agree that HAW is (probably) more mature than NH, but that song is a first (and sadly last) in her catalogue. Talking about being lost in life, not finding your place, being depressed and desperate. That's relatable at all ages, i would dare to say even more for the 30s and 40s if you don't achieve what society considers succesful things such as: a good job, marriage or a house and a car. Some people will never have "normal" lives and will never fit in those boxes. NH is a about being in a dark place and we've all been there. I think thats' why so many people love this song, apart from it's musicality and catchyness.
It portrays so much with so few words. She captured the feeling perfectly and it's a song about someone else. And i dare to say maybe she even wrote the song about herself but didn't want to go full on honesty and vulnerable (as she always avoids) and maybe she just lied about the song being about one of her highschool colleagues, but that's just a theory of mine lol.
Nevertheless, NH will always be a highlight in her career no matter how overrated people say it is. It's not. It's objectively speaking one of her best songs in all areas: vocal, instrumentation, catchiness, lyrics, arrangement (even music video).
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jun 20, 2024 0:08:57 GMT
I don't think Nobody's Home for her (40yo) and us (around our 30s) is as mature as some of you suggest, but okay... lol. It's one of my favorites of her FOR SURE (!), but I disagree with this ideia. Everyone is entitled to their opinions tho. I think there are many more mature songs on her setlist, including Head Above Water, which some people said she should skip. As I said before, maybe we just want our favorites to be performed, especially the most nostalgic ones. That's why when she's performing her most recent songs (HAW, LIWYHM) some people say they don't fit and request old ones... and at the same time we blame her for focusing on nostalgia. It's hard to find some balance. Way more mature than the entire songwriting on Love Sux album, Dumb Blonde, Hello Kitty, Rock N Roll, What The Hell... Not hard to find a balance of having new songs at your show when your fans are always begging for recent non-singles tracks on the setlist of every single post about the tour on your socials. She knew that people wanted to hear Avalanche, for example... Or the entire Love Sux song at her previous tour. She knows what we want but she preferes to ignore it. "dont act so innocent " YOU know that fans were expecting (and not having) new songs while she was on tour of new albums. And you know that people were expecting hits at greatest hits tour, not LYMWYHM or Fake As Hell, for example. P.s: Its not like shes performing a long setlist every night. She could perform the most requested old and new songs during the same concert, if she wanted to. Her concerts are super short. She only plays 15 songs per night.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jun 20, 2024 0:22:37 GMT
Avril wrote Nobody's Home about a girl in her high school so that's what the song is about. Maybe she feels weird if she sings about a girl that went to her school live everyday since now she is almost 40 That's how I'd feel writing and singing I Love It When You Hate Me or the entire Love Sux album at my late 30s. Lol
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Post by geelicon on Jun 20, 2024 1:11:56 GMT
Actual greatest hits Complicated Sk8er Boi I’m with You Losing Grip Things I’ll Never Say Tomorrow Knocking On Heavens Door Don’t tell me My happy ending Nobody’s home (THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE. Even the people who are not fans LOVE this song, once they heard it) Fall to pieces Girlfriend When you’re gone Innocence Hot Keep holding On What the Hell Wish you were here Here’s to Never Growing Up Let Me Go Head Above Water Bite Me I don’t know why the fuck she can’t play at least this. Honestly it’s not too much to ask for. That should be the minimum. Well: Things I'll never said, Tomorrow, Knocking on heavens door, Innocence and even Fall to pieces aren't "hits" from her, they are just fan favorites. Also I love a lot Nobody's home but I feel is not matching the vibe of the whole setlist; Keep Holding, Breakaway on or even I'm a Mess work better in my opinion. Also
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Post by Kaiye on Jun 20, 2024 9:46:33 GMT
Actual greatest hits Complicated Sk8er Boi I’m with You Losing Grip Things I’ll Never Say Tomorrow Knocking On Heavens Door Don’t tell me My happy ending Nobody’s home (THIS SHOULD BE A STAPLE. Even the people who are not fans LOVE this song, once they heard it) Fall to pieces Girlfriend When you’re gone Innocence Hot Keep holding On What the Hell Wish you were here Here’s to Never Growing Up Let Me Go Head Above Water Bite Me I don’t know why the fuck she can’t play at least this. Honestly it’s not too much to ask for. That should be the minimum. Well: Things I'll never said, Tomorrow, Knocking on heavens door, Innocence and even Fall to pieces aren't "hits" from her, they are just fan favorites. Also I love a lot Nobody's home but I feel is not matching the vibe of the whole setlist; Keep Holding, Breakaway on or even I'm a Mess work better in my opinion. Also 1. breakaway is not her song, no one even knows she released it. 2 all the singles you said aren’t “hits” were widely popular back in their times, they were more than fan favourites. What you say might be the case if I stated songs like avalanche, everybody hurts or give you what you like. Innocence/fall to pieces all charted higher than I’m a Mess. So no, these songs are not just “fan favourites” they were objectively popular, hence are “hits”
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Post by sailormoon88 on Jun 20, 2024 15:53:10 GMT
In your opinion, is there a chance that Avril stops to meet fans outside her tourbus in Werchter or Bedford?
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Post by littlefan on Jun 20, 2024 16:26:43 GMT
Greatest hits album out now o
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Post by afonso16 on Jun 20, 2024 18:09:09 GMT
I don't think Nobody's Home for her (40yo) and us (around our 30s) is as mature as some of you suggest, but okay... lol. It's one of my favorites of her FOR SURE (!), but I disagree with this ideia. Everyone is entitled to their opinions tho. I think there are many more mature songs on her setlist, including Head Above Water, which some people said she should skip. As I said before, maybe we just want our favorites to be performed, especially the most nostalgic ones. That's why when she's performing her most recent songs (HAW, LIWYHM) some people say they don't fit and request old ones... and at the same time we blame her for focusing on nostalgia. It's hard to find some balance. What kind of songs in her catalogue are more mature than NH? I can name like 5/6 off the top of my head and they are mostly from the albums everyone seems to hate (AL/HAW). I think we are all more than willing to hear the new songs. Bite Me was very well received by the fandom, but the rest of the singles she chose for LS are awful and a terrible representation of her as an artist, specifically LIWYHM which is probably the worst song on the record.
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