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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jul 10, 2024 13:51:09 GMT
Delivering good shows is the least she could do. Sorry, guys.
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Post by blackmage on Jul 10, 2024 13:52:21 GMT
Also she’d be way better off tying her hair up in these temperatures, I don’t understand how she is just fine with all that hair and heavy extensions in heat like this. If she tied her hair up in a bun or something it’d keep it off her neck and also out of the way when she’s playing guitar. It concerns me she’s prioritizing looking good and keeping up this MFP image over dressing for the weather so she can perform the best she can in such hot weather. Nobody would care if she put her hair up, threw on a tank top and shorts, and Converses instead of those heavy leather boots, if it meant she gave a better show. That makes total sense, her show in the Netherlands was one of the best. I don't mind if she wants to look good, it's part of her brand, and that's also why some people love her. But it's not like one can't look good while being comfortable. Just design different clothes, look good, and be comfortable. These things are not antagonists.
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Post by afonso16 on Jul 10, 2024 13:58:14 GMT
I know some people here don't appreciate it when we highlight the toxic comments about Avril, but they do exist. I t's interesting to see how the forum suddenly became so active after some bad reviews, especially after so many great concerts were largely ignored by some, lol. By the way, I understand how disappointing it is for fans who attended a poor concert, and I stand in solidarity as it also happened to me in the past. I went to good and bad concerts, for different artists and it can indeed frustrating. I'm sorry! Regarding fire props, Taylor avoided using them in Brazil after those heat waves, so Avril can do the same. It would be even better for her. I remember back in 2013/14, the first sign of her illness appeared during some shows in Asia. That's when she started showing that terrible look and discomfort on stage, constantly moving around and focusing on the fan. Even if it's not due to her health, it's clear she is very sensitive to hot temperatures, and Europe can be quite hot during summer specially during daylight shows. There were a few comments from frequent posters and one unusual one that basically said "it's probably the heat" and "she's inconsistent" (which she is). I do agree that one person consistently brings the mood down, but 90% of the people in this forum are fair in their criticism.
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Post by blackmage on Jul 10, 2024 14:08:09 GMT
I know some people here don't appreciate it when we highlight the toxic comments about Avril, but they do exist. I t's interesting to see how the forum suddenly became so active after some bad reviews, especially after so many great concerts were largely ignored by some, lol. By the way, I understand how disappointing it is for fans who attended a poor concert, and I stand in solidarity as it also happened to me in the past. I went to good and bad concerts, for different artists and it can indeed frustrating. I'm sorry! Regarding fire props, Taylor avoided using them in Brazil after those heat waves, so Avril can do the same. It would be even better for her. I remember back in 2013/14, the first sign of her illness appeared during some shows in Asia. That's when she started showing that terrible look and discomfort on stage, constantly moving around and focusing on the fan. Even if it's not due to her health, it's clear she is very sensitive to hot temperatures, and Europe can be quite hot during summer specially during daylight shows. There were a few comments from frequent posters and one unusual one that basically said "it's probably the heat" and "she's inconsistent" (which she is). I do agree that one person consistently brings the mood down, but 90% of the people in this forum are fair in their criticism. I agree with you. I was referring to those who are absent during positive events but suddenly reappear when something negative occurs. To be honest, I anticipated that some users would return to the forum after being absent for weeks as soon as the first disappointing show happened after so many good ones. If people are here only to focus on the negatives of her career, then why? The issue isn't about fair criticism that everyone would agree with or share similar opinions on (even when we politely disagree with each other), it's more about certain behaviors that contribute to creating a toxic atmosphere for some.
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Post by whateverjustaname on Jul 10, 2024 14:12:24 GMT
My friend who was there yesterday told me she noticed something wasn‘t alright when Avril did the cheers for ‚Here‘s to never growing up‘ but didn’t actually drink. In Manchester she drank champagne and beer at the same time for that.
Anyways, today is another show, let’s see how this will go.
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Post by katy on Jul 10, 2024 14:22:41 GMT
Agree if the heat is a problem there’s things she should be doing something about that to make herself more comfortable. I mean, it’s not exactly extreme heat, she must’ve played in worse than a European summer…?!
I feel like she’s not good at faking it, like if she’s in a bad mood or she’s uncomfortable that comes over on stage. But she needs to remember it’s literally her job to perform - she needs to be more professional in that sense. She still needs to go out and give her best to her fans regardless.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jul 10, 2024 15:03:19 GMT
I dont get it. Some fans refuse to admit/accept the truth about her performances on this tour.
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Post by blackmage on Jul 10, 2024 16:08:42 GMT
I dont get it. Some fans refuse to admit/accept the truth about her performances on this tour. I'm sorry, but have you ever considered that perhaps it's not that people "don't accept the truth", but rather that you don't hold the truth and people just don't accept your opinions? I see a lot of criticism about Avril here, yet people generally accept this type of criticism. So, what you are saying is not accurate. Fans here generally share their constructive criticism for her. But as we are criticis of her, we also have to be self-critical and not take our opinions as the ultimate truth. Actually, the real "truth" is, this tour is being praised for most of the concerts. Yes, not all of them, but by far the majority. Most fans are enjoying it, as are casual listeners who also attended, not to mention the media - even the UK media, which has never been afraid to criticize her. At Glastonbury, despite the presence of more interesting artists and an audience unafraid to boo performers as it has happened in the past, she received praise, and reviews rating her concert 5 of out 5 stars. The same happened with some other festivals in Europe and also for her solo shows. Yes, there have been bad concerts, like the ones in Belgium and Italy. That's unfortunate. Those who shared their opinions were respected, and people showed solidarity for fans who had these bad experiences. I've never seen them silenced. Similarly, when people had good experiences, like being invited on stage, those were celebrated as well. When people are active here, we see that both the good and bad moments are acknowledged and embraced. But apart from that, the reality is far from what you're always trying to portray. So, what truth do you want people to believe? Your opinion alone, or what the collective voice of media, fans, and attendees are actually saying?
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Post by katy on Jul 10, 2024 16:47:03 GMT
I dont get it. Some fans refuse to admit/accept the truth about her performances on this tour. Most people have been thinking she’s been great…… Katy who has been critics of Avril in the past said it was her best show she’s ever seen even better then the bonez tour…… someone else here got it go on stage with her and loved it and was in shock by it. The reception in here has been super super positive for the past month. yesterday was like the first bad day she had in like an entire month…… what I and ALOT of us don’t get is why you’re even bothering still coming on here if it’s all negative Heyyy I’m never critical!
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Post by geelicon on Jul 10, 2024 17:04:40 GMT
The truth is she's not as great as she used back from Bonez Tour to Blackstar Tour but also she is not as bad as some are suggesting: Every performer has bad days and even in this tour, she started really weak but she improved a LOT... but she just had a few bad performances. So sorry that some bandaids had to be there when her energy was too low.
I'm with everybody on the topic about worrying A LOT on her appearance. When she used those oversized shirts, she always look uncomfortable. She used to dress WAY better when she wore her own merch from Abbey Dawn. Also, I know Martens boots are comfy but converse and vans are way more comfy and I think she can perform better with those. About the LONG hair, girl, we all know is fake, please reconsider your decisions and make a little shorter for your own comodity.
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Post by lajra on Jul 10, 2024 19:22:41 GMT
I only saw few video recordings on youtube and others on tiktok and she's way better than she used to during haw performances
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Jul 10, 2024 19:50:15 GMT
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Post by blackmage on Jul 10, 2024 22:10:37 GMT
Yes, it's indeed funny. Even one of the comments for Avril's show from The Guardian (which had only ever given her one positive album review, for TBDT, while the others album of her were all panned), was written by their editor Lauren Snapes, the nemesis of pop artists like Taylor, Ariana, and even Avril herself. Laura was the one who tweeted that if Avril was a lake, one could run throught it without getting their feet wet. 💀 And even this woman was praising Avril, who is indeed receiving some acclaim now for her concerts. And the bad ones are also having proper reviews. The ones for Belgium were really bad. So, it's no narrative. I think most of the comments and reviews around her are fair this time around. This is such a great moment for her career. I hope she acknowledges this and capitalizes on it better.
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Post by minaring on Jul 11, 2024 8:32:46 GMT
WOAH. GLASTONBURY WAS SO GOOD, i was so nervous for her to be up there but it went soooo well people are still talking about it!! soooo excited for my show (which i have yet to get tickets for btw, if anyones selling 2 tbdt tickets for edmonton i will happily pay full price LOL.) ANYWAYS. so freaking cool!!! i hope her last two shows are good, crossing my fingers since they are back to back
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Post by tr252 on Jul 12, 2024 11:45:58 GMT
I was in the office yesterday and people are still talking about her Glasto set to me. There was a colleague who came over to me because she knows I'm a huge fan and she is Canadian herself and she was saying she had watched the Glasto set online and couldn't believe how incredible Avril's voice was.
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