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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 4, 2015 12:19:55 GMT
I don't think choosing to still support something even if you dislike it is being a blind fan. It's being a fan, period. Who else is going to support her and her music if not her fans? That's what we are supposed to do. Most fans thought HTNGU was a terrible lead single but we all supported it, bought it on iTunes, streamed it, requested it, etc. because that was what they chose and we had to just accept that. Supporting Avril no matter what doesn't make you a blind fan. It makes you a loyal fan. Of course it's easy to support a song you like. But your fanship is really tested when you have to support a song you don't agree with. I think it says a lot about how loyal a fan is if they continue to support her even if they don't agree with the single choices. At the end of the day we don't have any power or control over what her label releases and even if we don't like what they pick, we have to just accept their decision and do the best we can to help Avril succeed.
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Post by Avengium on Dec 5, 2015 0:50:15 GMT
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Post by Falling Into History on Dec 5, 2015 5:36:01 GMT
I'll admit that HK is one of my favorite songs off of AL, but I only listen to it once in a while because I'm not that into dubstep/Electro music. And the music video isn't my favorite, but it makes me laugh! So I'm glad for this achievement! Yay, Avril!!!
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Post by eismann on Dec 5, 2015 8:21:29 GMT
I dont get why so many still think that any promo is good promo. The video for Hello Kitty only got so many views because people and media said its racist. So 100m views isnt an accomplishment in my eyes...
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Post by Cookie Monster on Dec 5, 2015 8:32:49 GMT
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Post by Yolandi on Dec 9, 2015 17:40:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 2:36:15 GMT
I dont get why so many still think that any promo is good promo. The video for Hello Kitty only got so many views because people and media said its racist. So 100m views isnt an accomplishment in my eyes... sorry for my english and that I may look kind of slowpoke, but "racist"? I've missed this, why? what racist is in there?
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Post by wannabeyourmonster on Dec 10, 2015 8:24:04 GMT
I dont get why so many still think that any promo is good promo. The video for Hello Kitty only got so many views because people and media said its racist. So 100m views isnt an accomplishment in my eyes... sorry for my english and that I may look kind of slowpoke, but "racist"? I've missed this, why? what racist is in there? lol how did you miss it? Stupid tumblr kids who don't even know the definition of racism started this and then it spread through the media. But I don't think it got so many views just because of this. I know people who aren't her fans and liked the song.
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Post by eismann on Dec 10, 2015 17:28:41 GMT
I dont get why so many still think that any promo is good promo. The video for Hello Kitty only got so many views because people and media said its racist. So 100m views isnt an accomplishment in my eyes... sorry for my english and that I may look kind of slowpoke, but "racist"? I've missed this, why? what racist is in there? Short version: people accused Avril for being racist, because she portraits Japan in the HK-musicvideo like in a stereotyping way. Especially the "robotic"-dancers were a sign of racism for some people. It caused quite a scandal for Avril. www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/avril-lavignes-hello-kitty-and-the-stereotypes-of-japanese-women-9297642.html
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 8:23:25 GMT
To be fair, the "scandal" was forgotten about a week later, so it's understandable if some people haven't even heard about it. And does anyone remember that video where some Asian guys watched the HK video in light of all the 'controversy'? They loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 8:30:23 GMT
As for the 'blind fan vs. loyal fan' thing, I can kind of see both sides of the argument. Though I'm inclined to side with people like Jack who don't see the point of supporting whatever Avril does, just because it's Avril. I think there are ways of being a fan that don't involve buying and trending something that you're not really into.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 11, 2015 10:35:53 GMT
I hate it coza the substance I dislike it coza the music video I'm okay with it coza something new from Avril I like it coza Avril trying newness I love it coza something making me dance and high
I think whether the genre is rock or others, GP and "former fans" would also hate it because the lyrics and message are pure shit to them. People hate it not because the fact she lost the "rock" sound she has sticked to, it's because the misleading message from the music video and the message from the song itself.
Well, in my opinion, its not a fault to like/love this song, its the reason you like/love this song. I hate it because the message is terrible, I love it because she tries to be more creative than the old sound she uses so many times. There is nothing wrong to support any type of music, the most wrong is your motivation ~
And obviously, the label tries to use "negative marketability" to get attention and boost the sales. One side, they sold Avril that "it shows your love to Japan", one dark side was that they used this to draw attention like Miley Cyrus did. Avril was tricked by her label and she should shift to others as soon as possible.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 11, 2015 10:46:09 GMT
I don't think choosing to still support something even if you dislike it is being a blind fan. It's being a fan, period. Who else is going to support her and her music if not her fans? That's what we are supposed to do. Most fans thought HTNGU was a terrible lead single but we all supported it, bought it on iTunes, streamed it, requested it, etc. because that was what they chose and we had to just accept that. Supporting Avril no matter what doesn't make you a blind fan. It makes you a loyal fan. Of course it's easy to support a song you like. But your fanship is really tested when you have to support a song you don't agree with. I think it says a lot about how loyal a fan is if they continue to support her even if they don't agree with the single choices. At the end of the day we don't have any power or control over what her label releases and even if we don't like what they pick, we have to just accept their decision and do the best we can to help Avril succeed. TBH, since Avril left Aristra Records (Or shifted to Sony), the label haven't been listening to fans.
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