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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 26, 2015 18:02:49 GMT
He is credited for MHE though.... What he said about it was that he initially started composing the song for his wife and supposedly wrote the entire first verse. Supposedly Avril wrote the chorus and possibly the rest of the song. But I guess the song originally came from Butch. Where DTM is concerned is that he claims to have written the bridge and was never credited. The thing is Avril wrote the song at 17, before Complicated had even been released. Maybe what happened is she had the song written and she showed it to him while they worked on UMS and he suggested a word change here and there. Which wouldn't really be enough to warrant an actual writing credit. I just don't see him writing part of the song and Avril refusing to give him credit. What motivation would she have for doing that? In reality he probably changed a few words and expected to get credit for it because like I said.... he seems like a bitter person. Basically any time one of her songs becomes a hit he wants to act like he had something to do with it. MHE became a hit? Well actually it was his idea in the first place and he wrote the entire first verse. Girlfriend became a hit? Well actually Dr. Luke stole his idea (IMO even though I like TBDT song I think Luke took his idea and just made it 10x better). Avril's tie look became a trend? Well actually she just copied him. But wasn't the credit things on the album all confirmed to the final cut before head? I thought the process exists to make sure all writers and producers agree with the credit... On the other side, if I were Avril along with her personality, I would think of the bridge help was started from friendship not business relation. And if he didn't call to give him credit, I would just think that way lol That's why I think Butch probably in reality might have just changed a few words and expected to get credit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2015 19:36:27 GMT
I know she stopped wearing her ties because she got sick of seeing people copying her
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Post by Cookie Monster on Dec 27, 2015 1:34:29 GMT
I know she stopped wearing her ties because she got sick of seeing people copying her No. She said that she felt like she was wearing a costume.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 27, 2015 2:22:02 GMT
I know she stopped wearing her ties because she got sick of seeing people copying her No. She said that she felt like she was wearing a costume. I heard a rumor said people bet her would not be that famous onece she doesnt wear neck tie. And she could want to prove it wrong so she left it
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Post by nimegagunner on Dec 27, 2015 18:50:06 GMT
I think I read that she was sick of seeing people wearing a tie, so she stopped doing. However, I read it many years ago, so I'm not sure I'm right.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 27, 2015 20:56:21 GMT
They're basically more or less intertwined. What started off as just a fashion statement quickly became a trend and it was everywhere. At some point I think Avril felt like it was a costume because that's mostly what it was for her fans that started copying her. And it became her "thing" where everyone always expected her to show up wearing a tie. Imagine if there was one staple item of clothing you wore that people began to copy and everyone expected you to wear it forever. You'd get sick of it just like she did. Just like eventually she grew out of the creeper shoes and black hair streaks in UMS, the pink hair in TBDT, etc.
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