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Post by Nick on Feb 22, 2016 2:40:47 GMT
There's no need for me to explain the now highly publicized case going on with Queen Kesha and Dr. Luke. Why do you think that Avril hasn't shown her support for Kesha? Avril hasn't worked with Luke since 2007 even though he gave her her biggest hit, that's a little suspicious to me. Considering many artists have had bad experiences with him (Kelly, Demi, P!nk) it's very likely Avril did too - something that wasn't shown on the TBDT documentary.
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Post by avrilsmile3100 on Feb 22, 2016 4:03:27 GMT
Avril doesn't have to tweet about it but it would be really nice to hear her experiences with Luke. I think he's doomed anyway #FreeKesha
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Post by Jinkxx on Feb 22, 2016 12:39:46 GMT
What's all this about? I clearly haven't got a clue. i heard something trending about Free Kesha but what?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 22, 2016 12:49:58 GMT
Just because she hasn't tweeted anything publicly doesn't mean she didn't reach out to Kesha personally with a phone call or text (I'm sure Avril probably has her number). It's also a highly controversial case and considering Avril works for Sony I could see why she doesn't want to get involved or get her hands dirty in that. It doesn't mean she doesn't support Kesha's case but it's a conflict of interest in her case so I can see why she hasn't said anything. Taylor didn't either yet an article came out saying she gave Kesha $250,000 to help her, so it doesn't mean Avril hasn't supporter her in other ways. I'm sure she's heard about it and thinks it's fucked up.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 22, 2016 14:42:06 GMT
Avril hasn't worked with Luke since 2007 even though he gave her her biggest hit, that's a little suspicious to me.
I think that's more have to do with Avril trying to make her 4th album a more personal one than her previous efforts. The original plan was "no hitmakers".
And Avril was married at that time - if Dr Luke touched a married woman, there's no way out and he wouldn't have been able to explain himself.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 22, 2016 14:53:30 GMT
Remaining silent is a wise move. Nobody knows what really happened except Kesha and Dr. Luke. It is irrational to bash someone who you worked with before just because everybody else does.
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Post by Amanda on Feb 22, 2016 16:55:57 GMT
I would really like for Avril to make a tweet, because its not only about kesha but about showing where she stands in this industrys obsession with money over clients. I understand shes at sony so she might not be able to write FUCK SONY but Taylor didnt have to - she donated and knew it was gonna make the tabloids anyways. She could just tweet " I feel sad for blabla" or just the hashtag alone with nothing else.
I am giving a big applause for Taylor taking a stand for Kesha and donating money to her even tho she's at RCA. There obviously is a reason why many sony artists are keeping quiet about this but I'm really happy to see Taylor seeing her own opinions weighs more than her label.
"Nobody knows what really happened except Kesha and Dr. Luke." Very few people lie about rape cases, and it is very very hard to prove there's been a rape even though some cases are super obvious. Kesha never asked for Luke to go to jail, all she want's is to not work with him anymore. And even if Dr Luke is innocent, which is a huge IF, Sony shoult be smart and let her go because this is damaging even sony to the bricks. People are creating protests. Sony said she can choose to not work with Dr luke in court,but if she's doing this - sony will never help her promote her 6 coming albums so career doomed. Why would she kill her career and probably make most producers in LA never wanna work with her again over a false report. (And also, this is an insider thing but there's no lie that there's been very well known around the L.A. circle that Dr Luke has been doing this to Kesha, many people in the business has assumed it from their own observations just rumors floating around none wanting to step in and doing something.)
Well, almost getting out of topic since legal cases belong in court. I think Kesha deserves support nevertheless and I am happy to see so many celebs care about her. Miley also cut all her bonds with Dr Luke for a while ago as soon as she heard what he did to her.
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Post by Amanda on Feb 22, 2016 16:57:07 GMT
Just because she hasn't tweeted anything publicly doesn't mean she didn't reach out to Kesha personally with a phone call or text (I'm sure Avril probably has her number). It's also a highly controversial case and considering Avril works for Sony I could see why she doesn't want to get involved or get her hands dirty in that. It doesn't mean she doesn't support Kesha's case but it's a conflict of interest in her case so I can see why she hasn't said anything. Taylor didn't either yet an article came out saying she gave Kesha $250,000 to help her, so it doesn't mean Avril hasn't supporter her in other ways. I'm sure she's heard about it and thinks it's fucked up. I do really hope this is the case! But I am also afraid that just because she worked with him and he was nice to her, she might be thinking she's making it all up. It's very common, "no he couldn't rape her, he is my best friend or he is so nice". I hope she doesn't have this logic and that she somehow have maybe texted Kesha or reached out
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Post by goodbye on Feb 22, 2016 22:10:35 GMT
I would love if she did it but after I read that she's under Sony it's unlikly she will tweet and we know Avril, she doesn't use Twitter, Facebook etc. that much.
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Post by orangesky on Feb 22, 2016 22:12:37 GMT
I can't see why Kesha would lie about something like this. What would she stand to gain? Her career has basically stalled because of this trial so she must be telling the truth imo
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2016 22:14:41 GMT
I can't see why Kesha would lie about something like this. What would she stand to gain? Her career has basically stalled because of this trial so she must be telling the truth imo thats what I was thinking before. Dr Luke has nothing to defend himself..
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 22, 2016 22:59:57 GMT
I can't see why Kesha would lie about something like this. What would she stand to gain? Her career has basically stalled because of this trial so she must be telling the truth imo Exactly. There's still a huge stigma around women coming forward with rape allegations and are usually not believed at first (case in point), why would she willingly do this if it weren't true?
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Post by StrongSweet on Feb 23, 2016 3:10:15 GMT
The case shows how terrible is Sony . Avril might know what to do after the contract ends
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Post by Underclass King on Feb 23, 2016 3:10:18 GMT
I agree that Avril probably hasn't stated anything due to her being with Sony. It's likely she reached out to Kesha in some way though especially since she's previously stated that she's a big fan, even covering Tik Tok.
I think it's really sad that Kesha is stuck in this case. I've been a huge fan since she released her debut and to see this happen is absolutely heartbreaking. No one should be forced to work with their alleged abuser under any circumstances. She may of signed a contract though rape didn't fall under it.
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Post by niccolo on Feb 23, 2016 4:19:12 GMT
She might be at risk of being summoned as a character witness already, as it stands. And I'm not saying he did, didn't, or anything in between but if avril herself had no such experience with Luke, she has no business speaking out. Note that no one who worked extensively with him in the past has directly commented on this case.
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