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Post by katy on Feb 23, 2016 13:23:36 GMT
We have no idea who or what Avril believes so I'm fine with her keeping quiet. People do rape but people also do lie about rape, unless Avril has personally had a bad experience with him I think it's fine if she doesn't want to comment either way.
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Post by vancityblackstar on Feb 24, 2016 5:13:42 GMT
She doesnt really comment on this stuff anyway it seems
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Post by ben545 on Feb 24, 2016 15:09:23 GMT
According to Avril's Wikipedia page someone tried to sue her for plagerism when she releasehd the single "Girlfriend" and "Dr Luke" helped her secure an out of court settlement so presumably they are good friends.......given that Avril hasn't had to give head to get ahead like Kesha.
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Post by Becky on Feb 24, 2016 15:20:12 GMT
According to Avril's Wikipedia page someone tried to sue her for plagerism when she releasehd the single "Girlfriend" and "Dr Luke" helped her secure an out of court settlement so presumably they are good friends given that Avril hasn't had to give head to get ahead like Kesha. Ouch, unless there's some news that I missed, isn't the fact that she 'had to give head to get ahead' the whole problem? If the rape allegations are true then that's pretty awful to say. I think it's good that Avril has kept quiet.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 24, 2016 15:43:35 GMT
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Post by ben545 on Feb 24, 2016 16:35:31 GMT
Judging by Cookie Monster's video I'm glad Avril has kept quiet too. If Kesha has lied under oath in the past it makes her unbelievable in the future. Oh, what a tangled web we weave when at first we practice to decieve. Either way this guy Dr Luke is nobody's fool.
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Post by rebel101 on Feb 25, 2016 7:21:38 GMT
I was shocked when I read about this, and it's been awhile since celeb news has shocked me.
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Post by Becky on Feb 25, 2016 13:33:42 GMT
Ofc no one knows the truth apart from those two due to the fact there's (virtually) no evidence. That video could also be a result of her being threatened/forced into saying that he didn't rape her. There's stuff circulating about Dr Luke telling her that he'll destroy her life and her family which that link mentions also. Problem is is that potentially it could be horrific whichever way the ruling went. If he raped her, then this is a HUGE injustice. If she lied and he was therefore sentenced, then that's a person's liberty destroyed. It's not easy. However, if she has lied, then she's really f**ked things up for herself. I'm sure in precedent somewhere there has to be an easier way to change a contract if that was the simple issue.
Let's not 'victim blame' nor say crap about Dr. Luke without knowing exactly what happened.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 25, 2016 14:11:20 GMT
If he raped her, then this is a HUGE injustice. If she lied and he was therefore sentenced, then that's a person's liberty destroyed.
It's more than that. If she lied, an innocent's reputation and career is destroyed along with his and his family's life.
We should note that this lawsuit began shortly after when Kesha expressed her dissatisfaction that "she had little creative control of her second album, 'Warrior'" in September 2013 (according to Wikipedia...). There are a lot of things to be considered before hastly calling Dr Luke a rapist. I am glad Avril is keeping quiet on this.
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Post by Becky on Feb 25, 2016 14:26:26 GMT
If he raped her, then this is a HUGE injustice. If she lied and he was therefore sentenced, then that's a person's liberty destroyed.
It's more than that. If she lied, an innocent's reputation and career is destroyed along with his and his family's life.
Well if he's in prison then he's not going to be having a good reputation or career. But yeah it's irrelevant, it's life destroying each way.
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Post by Jack on Feb 25, 2016 14:35:04 GMT
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Post by niccolo on Feb 25, 2016 15:01:24 GMT
According to Avril's Wikipedia page someone tried to sue her for plagerism when she releasehd the single "Girlfriend" and "Dr Luke" helped her secure an out of court settlement so presumably they are good friends... Again, not defending him or blaming him for anything, but he was being sued as well so an out of court settlement was beneficial for everyone involved.
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Post by ben545 on Feb 25, 2016 21:37:08 GMT
Maybe the lyrics from her hit single Smile, "Last night I blacked out I think, what did ya, what did ya put in my drink?" are some kind of reference to Dr Luke giving her a "roofie"? She was a bit of an emotional wreck when her "Goodbye Lullaby" album came out. Personally I'd be very pissed off if someone spiked my drink.
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Post by wannabeyourmonster on Feb 25, 2016 21:42:15 GMT
Maybe the lyrics from her hit single Smile, "Last night I blacked out I think, what did ya, what did ya put in my drink?" are some kind of reference to Dr Luke giving her a "roofie"? She was a bit of an emotional wreck when her "Goodbye Lullaby" album came out. Personally I'd be very pissed off if someone spiked my drink. no
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Post by ben545 on Feb 25, 2016 22:47:20 GMT
Okay, maybe that assumption with the lyrics was a bit far fetched but we can't rule out the idea that maybe the reason Avril hasn't spoke out in support of Kesha is because she may have been abused herself by this guy and is also in fear of speaking out against him for whatever reason.
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