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Post by paperbackwriter on Jan 4, 2018 19:58:57 GMT
I hear Sk8er Boi playing at the pub this evening. My husband said "oh no!" LOL. It wasn't the most out of place song I heard though lol. That belongs to C'est La Vie by Bewitched.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Dec 26, 2017 12:23:49 GMT
Youtube won't remove a fan video made specially for Avril just because her music's in it wtf. There are videos on there of people getting burned alive, shot (sad but true) and other awful things yet you think youtube will delete an avril fan video that people have worked hard on if she mentions it. And it has nothing to do with social media. Nobody originally liked her because she didn't communicate with her fans. She communicated alot more before social media. She had a fan mail address, people would always send her stuff and she would personally write back or someone from her team would, she would atleast acknowledge her fans. She would always do free mall tours, she would always write personal updates on her official website signed by her, so NO her not communicating with her fans is not why everyone originally liked her. They will delete a video if it has copyrighted music in it. That's how horrible videos get past them while innocuous ones get their audio deleted or the whole video deleted. There are plenty of examples of that and disgusting people know how to cheat the system. And Avril does communicate with us. She obviously doesn't like social media very much so when she posts is mostly for us. Some fans just don't like what she has to say. And her fanmail account is down to her management and she's been jumping around so much she hasn't had one but they really should fix that now. We all know her management teams these last several years haven't been the greatest. Nettwerk management seems to have been the one who had their shit together for her. She did they free mall tour during UMS promotion and that was also come up with by management. Avril can suggest things but her management has final say on any tours or anything like that. Her blogs also used to be few and far between if I remember correctly. It really seems to me she communicates more now that she did then.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Dec 25, 2017 17:12:05 GMT
Whatever Avril does it will never be enough. In general she has posted more on social media this year than previously. She's let us know she's working, she thanked us for our patience in the Summer, and she gave us more insight into the delays during the live stream. She's not giving details or song snippets but I don't really blame her for that. She said once during one of her MTV diaries in 2003 that she wasn't talking much about her second album because she didn't want people to say oh well she said it was going to sound like this. It appears that she still subscribes to that idea. I don't see how this year is worse than 2010 when she didn't even appear to be working at all and she would say I have an album coming in May and then May would come and no news was coming out about her album. At least we know she's been working and working hard to come up with a good album. She made a mistake last year trying to do something nice for her fans by posting a video about her having a new album out in 2017 and everyone blew up with expectations and because those expectations were not met fans feel disrespected. I honestly think it would be better for Avril to not have any social media because fans will kick her ass no matter what even if it might not be her fault and she can't say anything. How rude would it be to say oh sorry guys I want to have my new album out but this producer can't work with me right now so he's ruining it.... No one knows what is going on behind the scenes and don't care to. Because Avril is the face of her music she gets the blame no matter what happens.
As far as those jokes go....thats really all they were jokes about the fact that fans didn't think she was working because she didn't post about it on social media. I joke sarcastically like that all the time, it's not meant to be mean spirited and mostly it's aimed at yourself and not the people you're directing it to. She calls her friends bitches so that wasn't meant as anything derogatory. Not saying anything about the video could mean that she didn't want to bring attention to it and it be deleted by Youtube for using her music. There are always two sides to one coin and not saying anything doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't care. It's all about perception and the general perception by her fans right now seems to be that everything she does or doesn't do has a negative connotation to it.
I really hate social media to be honest. It has made people so needy! If an artist isn't updating constantly then the artist doesn't care because look what -insert other artist name- does! I personally like that Avril is a normal person who doesn't think about the fact that she has fans all the time and doesn't post all the time pandering to what other people want. Isn't that why people originally liked her? Because she was a normal person who did what she wanted to do? So now that there is social media that goes out the window?
I'm not kissing Avril's ass because I have patience. One of my favourite bands Flogging Molly was supposed to have an album out in 2015 and it kept getting delayed with no news on it until this year. Shit happens!
This rant is not aimed at anyone I'm just having a shitty day and I'm tired on constantly seen my favourite singer being thrown under the bus for reasons I think are trivial. Not saying anything after the Spain concert cancellation was shitty. Standing 4 feet away form people at meet and greets was shitty. Not posting enough on social media is not the worst thing that could ever happen.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Nov 2, 2017 20:14:41 GMT
This was really petty of Kelly since she says Avril apologised for it. Get over it. It happened 15 years ago!
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 22, 2017 15:46:59 GMT
I kind of get the feeling that the recording of this album is going sort of like the recording of TBDT. She has a vision for the record and probably had a bunch of songs in mind or recorded for it and then came J.R. Rotem for the singles and she's having such a good time working with him and enjoying the work they are doing that she is recording more with him than originally intended. It doesn't mean that anything is going wrong or the label hates it and are making Avril rerecord the whole album or that she's changed her original vision for the record. The same thing that happened with TBDT, she had a vision and an album done and then came Luke for the singles and they worked so well together they recorded more and he ended up producing most of the songs we got on the album. BMG are probably happy to let Avril record with Rotem because he's a hit producer so the more work from him the better the chances are of a hit single.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 15, 2017 10:09:47 GMT
Oh yes, Saturday night in the studio? Or pics that were taken weeks ago, to be used when the fan base gets testy. The replies on the Foundation's post were a little nasty The comments on the last post by the foundation were disgusting. It was a post encouraging people to donate to charity and help others but all these nasty, rude little ingrates decided it was the perfect place to say things like "I'm disappointed in you... we deserve better," "totally fed up with you," "TALK ABOUT YOUR ALBUM" and "Shut up and fuck you, liar." The sense of entitlement and the sheer rudeness of people is astounding. Avril owes us nothing. The support and money we gave her in the past was for the products she created that we liked. Supporting her (and getting albums, concerts etc out of it) in the past doesn't mean she has to keep providing us with things. It's not like she used a kickstarter campaign and our money is already invested in this. I felt the need to go and look at these comments out of curiosity and it's no wonder Avril doesn't say more about her album. Damn if that's the response she gets when posting about her foundation can you imagine the response if she said the album was coming next year? They would crucify her and Avril is only human those comments may upset her sometimes. She might be trying so hard to come up with a good album to please her fans and all they can do is shit all over her.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 4, 2017 15:29:13 GMT
Here is how I personally feel about gun ownership. I don't like guns, I never have. I don't want to be around them because I don't trust myself not to use one on myself (I have issues with depression). That being said I can understand why some people want to have a handgun for protection of their property or a hunting riffle for hunting and I don't see how it would be possible to take these things away from people. However, I believe it should be illegal to own a semi-automatic riffle that is designed specifically to kill multiple people. A riffle that can be legal made into an automatic riffle with an adjustment bought on eBay. It is illegal to buy an automatic riffle off the shelf but not illegal to buy a semi-automatic and make it an automatic..... Anyway I personally don't believe the general population should have access to these kinds of weapons. Just look at the guy who carried off the massacre in Las Vegas. There was nothing in his background that would stop him from being able to buy multiple semi-automatic riffles. We have to draw the line somewhere. I don't see anything ever happening that will make it illegal to own a handgun or hunting riffle.
Anyway I find it interesting that Avril spoke out about this since she is usually silent about politics.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 4, 2017 15:08:03 GMT
As an American I can honestly say that many times over the past year I have thought there are too many stupid Americans in my country. I can't stand the embarrassment that is our government at the moment. And our gun laws are ridiculous. Ok so the second amendment says we have the right to own guns but why do we need the right to own semi-automatic riffles that are designed to kill lots of people? A lot of people want to change the guns laws but unfortunately the minority who believes it's ok to own military grade weapons are loud and the NRA has given lots of money to support people in our government. That's one of the biggest problems in this country is too many politicians are given money by organisations so they won't vote against whatever it is the company supports. The guns laws will probably never change in this country because of that. It sounds like you've already given up any hope of the laws changing which is sad. If the democratic process works properly a majority of people should sway laws to change. Maybe my opinion seems quite idealistic or naive but I think you have to have faith in the democratic process otherwise you've got nothing. I never thought the smoking ban would work in this country but it did. I've been a non-smoker for 10 years now. I haven't totally lost hope in the democratic process but my faith has been shaken pretty badly in the last year. I'll still vote and everything because I appreciate the right I have to vote, but I'm not hopeful like I used to be. There's a smoking ban in the UK? I recently moved here and I haven't seen this many people smoking since the 90s back home lol.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 4, 2017 9:48:49 GMT
I'm sorry I called the American people stupid. 11600 gun related deaths so far this year is a lot of dead people. Seems kind of stupid to me. Is that better? I'm sorry, I don't know how else to express my opinion. Do Americans have some kind of death wish? How can they live like that? How can those figures be acceptable? It's really quite scary. As an American I can honestly say that many times over the past year I have thought there are too many stupid Americans in my country. I can't stand the embarrassment that is our government at the moment. And our gun laws are ridiculous. Ok so the second amendment says we have the right to own guns but why do we need the right to own semi-automatic riffles that are designed to kill lots of people? A lot of people want to change the guns laws but unfortunately the minority who believes it's ok to own military grade weapons are loud and the NRA has given lots of money to support people in our government. That's one of the biggest problems in this country is too many politicians are given money by organisations so they won't vote against whatever it is the company supports. The guns laws will probably never change in this country because of that.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Oct 3, 2017 14:39:06 GMT
Off topic but correction: I don't think Avril is actually a US citizen. Living and working here for almost 2 decades does not mean she is a legal citizen. She has the proper papers or visas or whatever to legally live and work here. To my knowledge she has never applied for citizenship in the US and has citizenship in only 2 countries - Canada and France. It was easier for her to become a French citizen because her father was born there. To become a US citizen you have to take a test and all this other stuff. I can't see her wanting to do any of that, as long as she is able to live and work here legally I don't see why she'd care enough to become a citizen. I don't think she considers herself American at all. As an American I agree the gun laws need to be changed but can we please not call the American people "stupid?" That's insulting, regardless of your beliefs on gun control. Some of the American people are sure acting stupid but don't lump us all together and say we are all stupid. You don't see us saying "Oh wow those Brits, look at how stupid they are." This site doesn't have as many American users as it used to but keep in mind there's a few of us Americans still here, it's not all Europeans. Be more mindful the next time you're about to insult an entire country of people. I could have sworn I saw a pap picture of her at the airport with a US passport once. I can't find it right now, but if I'm right and she has a US passport then she applied for citizenship and just decided not to say anything publicly.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Sept 25, 2017 19:05:56 GMT
She and her team royally screwed up the cancellation of the concert in Spain. There was no excuse for an announcement not being posted on her website. And while it's true Avril may not have known that an announcement didn't take place, she still bears some of the responsibility for not making sure management handled the situation. She had to have known fans would be upset and she wouldn't have lost as many fans as she did if she had paid more attention to what was being said on the internet.
Now with the whole silence about the album right now I feel like she's in a lose lose situation. No matter what she says it will never be enough. People complained she wasn't updating us on social media so she started posting more, posts either weren't what they wanted or weren't enough. People were mad that she hadn't acknowledged that fans have been waiting for new music so she posted her message to us thanking us for our patience, still not enough. People want specifics but she may not have them at the moment. And have we all forgotten 2009-2010? When we were constantly told dates for an album that didn't come out till 2011 and fans were mad because she kept telling us to expect the album at this time or another and when the time came it wasn't released. Perhaps she has learned her lesson from that and aside from saying an album was coming this year, which I'm sure she meant last December, she hasn't given any hints about when it might be released. She has been pretty good lately about updating us from the studio. It may not be specifics but it's better than what we were getting which was nothing. We know she's in the studio, we know she's working on the album, what more can she say at the moment? Perhaps not much and I honestly believe even if she gave us a snippet of something or gave us potential dates it still wouldn't be enough for this fan base. It's not like she gave a blood oath that an album would be her in 2017 or the world would burn but that's how some people are reacting.
Technology has come a long way and you can write a song and record it one week and release it the next. When BMG want to release the album they will tell her to stop. Until then it's just a waiting game and I for one am happy to at least be getting updates that she has been working in the studio instead of just dead silence which is her usual forte.
And I'm not saying people can't be confused or disappointed by the album not looking like it's coming out this year, but if we're going to get an explanation it probably won't come until after the album is released.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Sept 23, 2017 10:23:14 GMT
I believe when Avril posted that Christmas message saying she was releasing in 2017 she really believed it. She probably didn't think it would take this long to record an album, but things happen. She posted that she only went into production in May. That's probably way later than she was thinking when she wrote that message. It obviously took longer to find good producers to work with, who also had the time to work with her. Plus now with Taylor Swift releasing at the end of the year BMG might be planning for a 2018 release even if she had finished already. They are going to want to give her the best chance at exposure so November/December is probably out for the album but maybe not the first single.
I want new music from Avril really badly, but I'm not going to trash talk her or whinge because it's not out when I thought it would be. I understand that things happen and maybe Avril is not at liberty to discuss what business things are going on behind the scenes. And for all we know, maybe she still will release an album this year. We just have to wait and see. She's actively trying to make the best record possible and I'd rather have that than a mess of an album because she tried to keep her promise and release this year.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Sept 22, 2017 14:49:10 GMT
The only reason I can see that Avril wouldn't use those songs from JR are if he wrote on them and refuses to let her use them. If she decides to let good songs go because she dumped her producer then that's petty.... it would also be petty if JR did not let her release the songs if he wrote on them. Avril was still writing and recording songs when HTNGU was released so writing a new song does not automatically mean it's back to the drawing board. If Chad said around June that Avril had 17 or so songs recorded then she's got to have well over 20 now and be close to done. If she felt inspired and wanted to write a song about whoever pissed her off more power to her. If BMG were seriously interested in getting the record out this year they would tell her alright you're done now you have enough songs. They may be giving her more time to work because of Taylor's album coming in November. BMG aren't going to let her stay in the studio forever, especially if she's been working with famous producers like Rotem. They must have some belief in her work.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jun 21, 2017 14:32:56 GMT
Aww thank you!
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Post by paperbackwriter on May 16, 2017 20:35:34 GMT
If she's already written everything before going into the studio it shouldn't take that long. This appears to be the first time she's done that, usually she writes with her producers.
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