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Post by 2000sclear on Mar 14, 2024 4:30:57 GMT
All drama aside, I just listened to the Mod song and I have to say it is very well written. He does a very good job canvassing his side of what happened, being able to effectively portray a complete story from start to finish through the limited words in a song is impressive and one of the marks of a good songwriter. Of course the actual music style of the song is not my taste at all so I doubt I'll ever listen to the song again lol, but that's besides the point. Point is it's a well made song and if you do like that music style you should have no shame in enjoying the song
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Post by tirasayshello on Mar 15, 2024 17:32:54 GMT
don't even know if this is the good thread or a sensitive topic since i was not here during "the drama" but....Strangers by Mod is kind of a bop :') i know the song is about Avril and even tho he doesn't really say something THAT negative about her rather than calling her a liar, as a fan i kinda feel the pressure to not like the song or "cancel" it lol. But if Taylor is able to talk about her exes in such a detailed way and it's ok, i think for Mod should be applied the same logic, no matter what who was right or wrong, or how immaturely he handled everything, or if we like him as a person or not. For me personally i never was fully on board with his persona and he always gave me the vibes of someone i wouldn't want to be friends with lol (same goes with mgk). But leaving that aside, i found myself enjoying quite a lot of his songs (before the breakup) and after, strangers is one of them. it's not a masterpiece, but i kinda like the melody AND the lyrics LOL. "guess we really did go up in flames in the end" is a very clever way to link the 2 songs and give a new and tragic meaning to their whole relationship: flames (indeed). anyway, pls dont hate me for liking the song xD Okay I've taken some time off the internet so I'm not too well versed here. I'm planning to listen to this new song later today, and I'll talk about when I do. But don't be worried about having an opinion. Obviously I don't know too much about the break up, and I don't think too many people do unless there was new stuff released and I've been living under a rock. But seeing what the line you quoted here is saying, then ouch. Cause that is tragically clever.
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Post by 2000sclear on Mar 18, 2024 17:54:01 GMT
Just to get a conversation starter out there I'll try to throw out as unpopular of an opinion as I can:
I find Sk8r Boi and Girlfriend to be incredibly corny and among her worst written songs lyrically. The cringiness of the opening line and outro of Sk8r Boi actually makes me wince. The "mf princess" line in Girlfriend provokes a similar reaction. I will say though that both songs are fun for what they are, and the music videos are both great, but I basically never actively choose to listen to either.
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Post by Brainwashed on Mar 18, 2024 19:44:29 GMT
I don’t really like sk8er boi all that much either and I would much rather listen to another song off let go. Girlfriend is just super catchy and yeah both songs are definitely not made for their lyrical value more like a catchy pop song that’s meant to be a hit.
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Post by magg89 on Mar 18, 2024 22:54:58 GMT
I kind of 'hate' Girlfriend and the fact that It's One of Her biggest hits. I think the lyrics are cringe and I Never listen to It😅
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Post by Jimmyzz on Mar 19, 2024 1:10:14 GMT
Just to get a conversation starter out there I'll try to throw out as unpopular of an opinion as I can: I find Sk8r Boi and Girlfriend to be incredibly corny and among her worst written songs lyrically. The cringiness of the opening line and outro of Sk8r Boi actually makes me wince. The "mf princess" line in Girlfriend provokes a similar reaction. I will say though that both songs are fun for what they are, and the music videos are both great, but I basically never actively choose to listen to either. I don’t really like sk8er boi all that much either and I would much rather listen to another song off let go. Girlfriend is just super catchy and yeah both songs are definitely not made for their lyrical value more like a catchy pop song that’s meant to be a hit. I kind of 'hate' Girlfriend and the fact that It's One of Her biggest hits. I think the lyrics are cringe and I Never listen to It😅 All these songs are probably my least liked songs. But for many who grew up with these songs, they are very near and dear to their hearts. So these songs have their place, and are very important to many Avril fans. But I definitely hear where you guys are coming from, and I know you're not alone in your thinking...
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Post by ame · 雨 on Mar 19, 2024 1:45:31 GMT
"He was a boy, she was a girl" will always be iconic 😭 (for better or worse), it actually became some kinda of ongoing meme so that's good i guess. Also the "he was a punk, she did ballet".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2024 2:20:40 GMT
I heavily disagree. Thoe songs are too iconic. I mean I do feel in that way of Shake it Off and that is one of Taylor's biggest hits ever. I like to rock out to those songs and those songs are gonna be so so fun live. And honeslty, I think Sk8er boi and GF are more iconic than Shake It Off which is why im defending those a little less then Shake it Off. GF and Sk8er boi just instantly take me back to the 2000s iwhen i listen to it. mean GF pretty much defiend a summer along with Umbrella by Rihanna. Thsoe 2 dimonated 2007! Ims o excited to dance and sing to sk8er Boi and GF twice this summer!!!!
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Post by Jimmyzz on Mar 19, 2024 5:18:47 GMT
I heavily disagree. Thoe songs are too iconic. I mean I do feel in that way of Shake it Off and that is one of Taylor's biggest hits ever. I like to rock out to those songs and those songs are gonna be so so fun live. And honeslty, I think Sk8er boi and GF are more iconic than Shake It Off which is why im defending those a little less then Shake it Off. GF and Sk8er boi just instantly take me back to the 2000s iwhen i listen to it. mean GF pretty much defiend a summer along with Umbrella by Rihanna. Thsoe 2 dimonated 2007! Ims o excited to dance and sing to sk8er Boi and GF twice this summer!!!! I'm a big fan of people liking and loving any music they want to like, regardless of what anyone else thinks of it. And I say stand your ground and just keep loving what you love in music, and don't ever let anyone else ever stop you from being who you are and loving exactly what you love!
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Post by 2000sclear on Mar 19, 2024 5:43:46 GMT
I heavily disagree. Thoe songs are too iconic. I mean I do feel in that way of Shake it Off and that is one of Taylor's biggest hits ever. I like to rock out to those songs and those songs are gonna be so so fun live. And honeslty, I think Sk8er boi and GF are more iconic than Shake It Off which is why im defending those a little less then Shake it Off. GF and Sk8er boi just instantly take me back to the 2000s iwhen i listen to it. mean GF pretty much defiend a summer along with Umbrella by Rihanna. Thsoe 2 dimonated 2007! Ims o excited to dance and sing to sk8er Boi and GF twice this summer!!!! I'm a big fan of people liking and loving any music they want to like, regardless of what anyone else thinks of it. And I say stand your ground and just keep loving what you love in music, and don't ever let anyone else ever stop you from being who you are and loving exactly what you love! Yes, I agree. I would just like to clarify that the sole purpose of my post was to contribute to the thread topic by sharing an unpopular opinion & to start a conversation. There was no intention of putting down anybody for liking the songs, I hope nobody took it the wrong way. Like I said, I do not dislike either song. I think both are fun songs & have great music videos, I just don’t like them as much as the typical Avril fan.
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 25, 2024 12:19:15 GMT
Okay how about another one. I hate tell Me it's over 😭 and I watched the music video one time and that's it. So lame. I'm happy other people liked it but I did not !! Terrible single choice in my opinion. Me too! Never listened to it again after I heard it once. I dislike the whole melody, I dislike how her voice sounds... just not my cup of tea. Okay guys but what about Crush, is has the same vibe as TMIO but do you dislike that song too? Because I love TMIO but mostly skip Crush... which is a bit weird since it's the same vibe but still..? I'm curious about this
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Post by ame · 雨 on Mar 25, 2024 13:11:19 GMT
Me too! Never listened to it again after I heard it once. I dislike the whole melody, I dislike how her voice sounds... just not my cup of tea. Okay guys but what about Crush, is has the same vibe as TMIO but do you dislike that song too? Because I love TMIO but mostly skip Crush... which is a bit weird since it's the same vibe but still..? I'm curious about this i love both of them actually haha. TMIO to it's a bit more swingy, more powerful and a bit more explosive i would say in its instrumentantion and vocal delivery, while Crush is a bit more mellow, sweet and vibey (if that makes sense) and a lot more romantic. Even tho they have the same musical genre, they are different to me and i like both of them on their own identity. Crush is actually very underrated in this fandom, i understand why but still. Zane did a great job in that song and i think i prefer his original idea for the bridge.
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Post by katy on Mar 25, 2024 13:38:56 GMT
I love TMIO. The bridge is such a classic Avril bridge. I’d love her to do more songs like that. Crush is great too!
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Post by tirasayshello on Mar 26, 2024 14:34:38 GMT
I never really liked TMIO until recently. The past few months I've listened to it more, and it's a lot of fun for me. I like singing it, and it's grown on me. Unfortunately I can't get into crush the was I did in TMIO. I think it's because I sing TMIO some, and I'm not good with Crush, so my mind decided I couldn't like it anymore lol.
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Post by avocadil on Mar 26, 2024 19:16:44 GMT
Me too! Never listened to it again after I heard it once. I dislike the whole melody, I dislike how her voice sounds... just not my cup of tea. Okay guys but what about Crush, is has the same vibe as TMIO but do you dislike that song too? Because I love TMIO but mostly skip Crush... which is a bit weird since it's the same vibe but still..? I'm curious about this Crush is just okay for me. Not as bad as TMIO but will never be one of my favorites either. So I guess I'm the opposite of you regarding that topic and just don't like that specific vibe. 🤔
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