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Post by oneofthoseguys on Mar 26, 2024 19:24:25 GMT
I never really liked TMIO until recently. The past few months I've listened to it more, and it's a lot of fun for me. I like singing it, and it's grown on me. Unfortunately I can't get into crush the was I did in TMIO. I think it's because I sing TMIO some, and I'm not good with Crush, so my mind decided I couldn't like it anymore lol. I absolutely love TMIO. Yes, it's another love song but it's VERY well written. VERY good lyrics, vocals and production. It's a different and mature song on her catalogue. I just loooooove it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 26, 2024 23:37:09 GMT
Me sitting here as a TMIO and Crush fan
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 27, 2024 2:32:13 GMT
Me sitting here as a TMIO and Crush fan I would be happy with an EP full of these type of songs.
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Post by Jimmyzz on Mar 27, 2024 3:41:17 GMT
Me sitting here as a TMIO and Crush fan I would be happy with an EP full of these type of songs. I wish I could figure out a way to dare Avril to start putting out experimental EP's, of songs she is not quite sure about. Then we would get official/semi-official releases, that could get streamed. Something might just stick, and then she could expand on the idea if it felt right to her, and if the public loved it, etc.
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Post by yex on Mar 27, 2024 10:45:15 GMT
I love Crush and I think it's better than TMIO. More powerful and emotional. I like the verses in TMIO but the chorus....however I love everything about Crush, I think her voice is less forced.
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Post by afonso16 on Mar 28, 2024 1:10:58 GMT
If Avril had gone down in the same direction as most of the songs on HAW she would be taken much more seriously. I still remember when the album came out and everyone was shook over her voice:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2024 1:28:59 GMT
If Avril had gone down in the same direction as most of the songs on HAW she would be taken much more seriously. I still remember when the album came out and everyone was shook over her voice: Heres the problem with that and what I noticed again with the GP and everything. To them/ LS was the comeback not HAW. Unless youw ere really following her career people ignored HAW and everything,b ut once LS came around and Bite Me Came out everyone was like OMG AVRIL LAVIGNE IS BACK AFTER A HIATUS!!! like.. she literally just put out an album 3 years ago, but nope to them this was the comeback after a hiatus, SO i dont thinkits taking her serious or anything, its just shes getting more noticed over the bratty sound like LS then anything
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Post by tirasayshello on Mar 28, 2024 3:22:41 GMT
If Avril had gone down in the same direction as most of the songs on HAW she would be taken much more seriously. I still remember when the album came out and everyone was shook over her voice: Heres the problem with that and what I noticed again with the GP and everything. To them/ LS was the comeback not HAW. Unless youw ere really following her career people ignored HAW and everything,b ut once LS came around and Bite Me Came out everyone was like OMG AVRIL LAVIGNE IS BACK AFTER A HIATUS!!! like.. she literally just put out an album 3 years ago, but nope to them this was the comeback after a hiatus, SO i dont thinkits taking her serious or anything, its just shes getting more noticed over the bratty sound like LS then anything Exactly, people associate Avril with the punk-rock/ punk-pop sound from songs like Girlfriend, Sk8ter boi, etc. People weren't used to the sound of albums like GL and HAW. AL was just that, it had a hit with HTNGU and that was it. LS brought back the sound that most people recognized when the thought of Avril Lavigne. So it makes sense that HAW was kind of forgotten by the public, because it wasn't what people recognized in Avril.
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Post by afonso16 on Mar 28, 2024 10:28:25 GMT
If Avril had gone down in the same direction as most of the songs on HAW she would be taken much more seriously. I still remember when the album came out and everyone was shook over her voice: Heres the problem with that and what I noticed again with the GP and everything. To them/ LS was the comeback not HAW. Unless youw ere really following her career people ignored HAW and everything,b ut once LS came around and Bite Me Came out everyone was like OMG AVRIL LAVIGNE IS BACK AFTER A HIATUS!!! like.. she literally just put out an album 3 years ago, but nope to them this was the comeback after a hiatus, SO i dont thinkits taking her serious or anything, its just shes getting more noticed over the bratty sound like LS then anything I think people forget that there were also certain circunstances that made the LS era sucessful: 1) we're going through a very nostalgic time where music and artists from the 2000's are being widely celebrated; 2) the Y2K fashion making a comeback in a revamped way; 3) the resurgence of "pop-punk" style music after MGK's "Tickets to My Downfall" album; 4) Let Go reaching it's 20th birthday and making a lot of the promo for LS about that. Like, for once, her team took advantage of a moment in which Avril was being commemorated in the zeitgeist and actually ran with it... Her team now is wayyyyyy more competent than her previous one.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 28, 2024 11:43:45 GMT
I agree with both points but I do think taking her seriously as an artist is a separate idea from paying attention to the music itself. More people recognized LS because it was a familiar sound, but it wasn’t the type of music that would make outsiders take her seriously as an artist or show how she’s grown. HAW and songs in that vein definitely showed a new and unexpected side of her, and they were overall more mature in their lyrics as well. If she had continued in that direction she maybe wouldn’t have gotten as much recognition but she probably would have gained new respect as an artist for going outside the box and trying to evolve.
It’s kind of like when Taylor released folklore and suddenly gained a newfound sense of popularity because people realized she could do more than just songs like Shake It Off, she gained a new audience that otherwise didn’t care about her before. It wasn’t the type of music she was known for doing and it didn’t have big radio hits like her previous albums but it did gain her new respect from critics and non fans.
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 28, 2024 17:25:37 GMT
I can't see the comparison with Folklore/Taylor and Avril tbh. Other than maybe Avril also releasing something like it during the pandemic which is half the reason Folklore got attention from outsiders. Not to mention the help having such a big fanbase had to putting folklore on notice. Although, LS being released when nostalgia for pop punk was having a resurgence might be kind of similar. I think Avril A) not releasing things on time and B) not putting herself out there really screws her chances. Like the only memorable thing about HAW era was the person of the year award at the Disney Kids Awards. The album also didn't fit anywhere musically at the time IMO. LS has been the only time she really took her shot when it was time...well sort of bc she did the whole label thing and a fall release with a very popular release day ahhh god im having flashbacks.
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Post by erikvaze on Mar 30, 2024 0:30:20 GMT
I can't see the comparison with Folklore/Taylor and Avril tbh. Other than maybe Avril also releasing something like it during the pandemic which is half the reason Folklore got attention from outsiders. Not to mention the help having such a big fanbase had to putting folklore on notice. Although, LS being released when nostalgia for pop punk was having a resurgence might be kind of similar. I think Avril A) not releasing things on time and B) not putting herself out there really screws her chances. Like the only memorable thing about HAW era was the person of the year award at the Disney Kids Awards. The album also didn't fit anywhere musically at the time IMO. LS has been the only time she really took her shot when it was time...well sort of bc she did the whole label thing and a fall release with a very popular release day ahhh god im having flashbacks. i think the best decision would be if she put more promo into HAW and make a deluxe or a normal tracklist with good pop songs from unreleased. I mean she can still do it anytime like Swift created a tendency for the "vault " songs and i like love sux its a nostalgic thing, and albus is good but if she keeps working in this direction it is a flop if we will get LS 2.0. this year cause it shows that she is not developing. I always compare HAW single to kesha's Praying cause they have kinda same message and like a comeback ballad, but HAW deserves much more recognition, if it had a strong promo. So yeah i think Avril just had a good chance in 2019 for revival but the label fucked it up and since she personally does not care about sales and popularity, since she almost never listen to what fans want and there's no connection between us and avril, it always make me feel sad cause we all know she can do better. I just want a new album to be smth different from LS and kinda we all bored of breakup songs from Avril. I just wish someday she will mbe smarter and do deluxe version with all the bops like Bright, In Touch and etc included cause these are potentially good songs and she fucked them up or just not interested in them. So if Avril wanted to have more recognition i sure she would do more, but she just make music for herself and for "us" as she thinks. i don't have any other hope for a big hit anymore cause in her case it could be only because of new managers,team, label and etc. She fits good into pop punk, but i wish she won't stuck in these teenage songs and will do smth interesting in alternative sound.
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