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Post by goodbye on Mar 25, 2019 5:36:59 GMT
I loved her insta posts. The only thing that bothers me is that I couldn't hear the stories in the Japan Store. She was really quite or the background noise was too loud.
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Post by Anti on Mar 25, 2019 6:22:42 GMT
What has the album sold in China and Japan?
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 25, 2019 6:34:58 GMT
What has the album sold in China and Japan? Try checking the Charts Thread. It lists various statistics so maybe they have it on there? Edit: Nevermind, I just checked and it's not on there.
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Post by birdie on Mar 25, 2019 7:47:28 GMT
I think that in AL5 was rushed to made a new project, when she's usually take 3-4 years to came back with new material, or maybe she rushed herself but anyway you can see the poor work, no valid bridges in most of the songs, no second voices that are her mark in some kinda way, the production seems so empty and fill up with noises or add up with verses that doesn't belong there ("and it tastes so good, "and no one ever growing up ahahah" please) Hello Heartache could've been a beautiful song but its empty fill up with "La la la la" and poor verses and an annoying accent! The only songs that are valid to me are; Falling Fast, Hush Hush, Give You What You Like, part of 17 and RAR, yes this one, is nothing special but its better than HTNGU, BS and SOS all together, I hate LMG cause i hate featuring in the first place, and i also think that Chad ruined it i wanted a solo version As always, this is just my opinion, but i think Avril needs more time to create real art like she did with HAW, the only exeception was with UMS but i think that in this case she was young and more passionate and excited to create new music, things that she kinda losted lately and seems that she found again in this era, even if we didn't have enough performance so i don't really know, i just hope she continue to create valid music to hear
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Post by Duwod on Mar 25, 2019 8:16:30 GMT
Head Above Water is really my favourite album by her. I almost love every single song. It Was In Me is my favourite song by her and the one I can relate the most. AL5 wasn't THAT, it has some good songs but I'm not a fan of it. Goodbye Lullaby was my favourite album for a long time now until AL6 came out. My least favourite? I don't know.. ^^' I think AL5. Every album has around 2-3 songs I don't like except her newest album and Goodbye Lullaby. But I love it that I have a record for literally every mood.
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Post by fih on Mar 25, 2019 8:52:06 GMT
Sometimes I’d like to hear an album by all the people who judge AL5 so much, and also read their super deep full of meaning lyrics. I’m not saying AL5 is her best album at all, but people critic so so so much, so I’d like to see what they are capable of. Not directing to anyone, just putting out some thoughts cause sometimes many people talk so much about instruments this, and productions that.. I wanna know if all those people are capable of producing, writing, singing and come up with a better album than AL5 K but you don't have to know how to do something to tell if it's good or not...(?) or do you? And in Avril's discography, every album, even a lot of the b-sides are way better than AL5 if you want an example. And nope, I don't know how to write lyrics, or how to compose or produce a song, nope. But I do know what "deep lyrics" means, and I do know how a well produced song sounds. Art curators (most of the times) aren't artists. Art critics (most of the times, if not always) are not artists. We're not "experts" or musicians, but come on...AL5 is just bad...as an overall album, it has some highlights, but meh. But those people you mentioned studied to critic at least. And I’m not against analyzing and even saying it’s not good, surely not. I’m not being a blind fan and loving everything just cause it’s Avril, I mean TBDT to me is still not amazing even tho the instrumentals sound nice.. but it’s the WAY some people talk, as if they are expert in it and honestly sounding as if they could do better! And I honestly doubt ALL those fans are expert, that’s my point. To me people can keep saying that AL5 isn’t good forever, it’s all fine, but people shouldn’t say it as if they are oh so professionals ahaha just that
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 25, 2019 10:01:47 GMT
ALF announced the winner of the Japan contest. Some guy named Danny.
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 25, 2019 10:04:49 GMT
Head Above Water is really my favourite album by her. I almost love every single song. It Was In Me is my favourite song by her and the one I can relate the most. AL5 wasn't THAT, it has some good songs but I'm not a fan of it. Goodbye Lullaby was my favourite album for a long time now until AL6 came out. My least favourite? I don't know.. ^^' I think AL5. Every album has around 2-3 songs I don't like except her newest album and Goodbye Lullaby. But I love it that I have a record for literally every mood. We totally have the same opinion!! HAW best album and 2nd place GL
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Post by birdie on Mar 25, 2019 10:13:20 GMT
K but you don't have to know how to do something to tell if it's good or not...(?) or do you? And in Avril's discography, every album, even a lot of the b-sides are way better than AL5 if you want an example. And nope, I don't know how to write lyrics, or how to compose or produce a song, nope. But I do know what "deep lyrics" means, and I do know how a well produced song sounds. Art curators (most of the times) aren't artists. Art critics (most of the times, if not always) are not artists. We're not "experts" or musicians, but come on...AL5 is just bad...as an overall album, it has some highlights, but meh. But those people you mentioned studied to critic at least. And I’m not against analyzing and even saying it’s not good, surely not. I’m not being a blind fan and loving everything just cause it’s Avril, I mean TBDT to me is still not amazing even tho the instrumentals sound nice.. but it’s the WAY some people talk, as if they are expert in it and honestly sounding as if they could do better! And I honestly doubt ALL those fans are expert, that’s my point. To me people can keep saying that AL5 isn’t good forever, it’s all fine, but people shouldn’t say it as if they are oh so professionals ahaha just that You're right, my judgement is basically influenced by her previous work, if the new one doesn't show any kind of improvement or at least the same quality, well i'm going to consider that album a failure, not because i am an expert but because i know that she can do a lot better than that (and HAW is an example) thats why some of us are so harsh around AL because we know that she have great potential and it is disappointing to see her wasted on a work like that! Its not a total trash, i like to hear it from time to time when i wanted to listen something more lighter
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Post by heaven on Mar 25, 2019 11:13:50 GMT
Just because we are not professional critics it doesn't mean we can't judge a work of art, especially if you really love music and listen to different artists and have a complete vision of things.
The self-titled failed to be everything they try to make it to be: ANOTHER THE BEST DAMN THING. It doesn't have the same energy, the same grit that TBDT has. Despite this, the album could have been great if she talked more about her new happiness with Chad and less about drinking in summer after the end of the school..it didn't seem naturally, it was so forced, so embarassing to hear those songs coming from an almost 30 year old woman and over 30s men. The self-titled doesn't show the Avril singer-songwriter, because a singer-songwriter talks about her experiences.. and in that album there were 2-3 songs about that.
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Post by fih on Mar 25, 2019 11:29:46 GMT
Just because we are not professional critics it doesn't mean we can't judge a work of art, especially if you really love music and listen to different artists and have a complete vision of things. The self-titled failed to be everything they try to make it to be: ANOTHER THE BEST DAMN THING. It doesn't have the same energy, the same grit that TBDT has. Despite this, the album could have been great if she talked more about her new happiness with Chad and less about drinking in summer after the end of the school..it didn't seem naturally, it was so forced, so embarassing to hear those songs coming from an almost 30 year old woman and over 30s men. The self-titled doesn't show the Avril singer-songwriter, because a singer-songwriter talks about her experiences.. and in that album there were 2-3 songs about that. I’ll say again, and for the last time, cause really gets tiring here sometimes. I said before that people surely can say it’s bad as much as they want, I just don’t like (and it’s only me, myself, my opinion, what I think ONLY) how some people act AS IF they are professional critics, that’s all. Saying it’s not on “Avril’s level” as we know she’s capable of, surely is fine and it’s normal, I just think is silly and childish to act the way sometimes people do. But anyway was just a comment I felt like putting out, as I said before I don’t think AL5 is her best work as well anyways, I just wanted to mention that before cause is something that bothers me a bit, and I think I can also express that here?! Ahaha By the way, isn’t only about AL5, some comments about HAW also made me feel like “are those people professionals, could they improve that work, produce that song better?” So yeah sometimes I wonder only
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Post by twinmatrix on Mar 25, 2019 11:29:58 GMT
Lol u guys are so bitter about AL5.
It's such a great album.
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Post by vinciano257 on Mar 25, 2019 12:15:24 GMT
For me, AL5 is her worst album. Is not horrible, but it has horrible production, bad excess of autotune in some songs and poor lyrics. I mean, I'm ok with that thing of "here's to never growing up" but c'mon girl, you're almost 30 years old (I guess the album came out when she was like 28/29, I don't remember exactly) and you're singing about "school is finally out" and a slumber party with Hello kitty or some crap like that. I'm ok with a fun song here and there, but that kind of childish things was ok when she was 21, like Girlfriend. You can make a fun song with interesting and more mature lyrics, like Dumb Blonde (and it's still not my favorite song). Anyways, everyone was talking about that album so I wanted to talk about it too 😂
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 25, 2019 12:26:03 GMT
Lol u guys are so bitter about AL5. It's such a great album. I like every Avril album but some more, AL5 has masterpieces but also songs I dislike (Tho I think they're still better then music from for example Jessie J or other pop stars)
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 25, 2019 12:46:54 GMT
I mean the thing is you don’t actually know what people here are capable of. Obviously none of us is a famous musician like she is, but some of us are writers or singers or musicians and maybe if we were writing a song we’d do it differently. Like you can’t assume nobody here is actually capable of singing, writing, or producing stuff ‘cause she definitely has fans that are also musicians, even if they aren’t professional like she is. You don’t have to be a chef to go “This food tastes bad. It needs more salt.”
I think AL is fine as individual songs, I even enjoy the overly auto tuned Disney pop ones from time to time, but the album as a whole is a mess. Her attitude in that era didn’t help either, it was so obvious how little she cared about any of it and this was long before Lyme started. It is for me her only album that misses that “Avril” stamp. It feels more Chad and Martin Johnson influenced. Aside from that, I personally experienced some dark times around the time this album came out and unfortunately I associate this album with that. That plays a huge role in my general dislike and aversion to this album. It’s kind of like the opposite way with Taylor’s 1989, I was experiencing really great things in my life at that time and I have very positive memories associated with that record, which is part of the reason it’s one of my favorites.
I wish people could just let people dislike the album instead of criticizing them for it. We all have our favorite and least favorite albums from her. If AL is your fave album, cool for you. Nobody is “bitter” about it. Everybody has their reasons for why they don’t like that album and the fact it is the general consensus amongst her fans that it’s her worst and least liked album kind of says a lot. As I said, even Avril herself didn’t seem into it.
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