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Post by katy on Mar 25, 2019 13:05:58 GMT
I know nothing about music, no idea what you guys are on about when you say the production is good/bad, but still think AL is rubbish. Better than GL, but still rubbish.
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Post by fih on Mar 25, 2019 13:20:42 GMT
I mean the thing is you don’t actually know what people here are capable of. Obviously none of us is a famous musician like she is, but some of us are writers or singers or musicians and maybe if we were writing a song we’d do it differently. Like you can’t assume nobody here is actually capable of singing, writing, or producing stuff ‘cause she definitely has fans that are also musicians, even if they aren’t professional like she is. You don’t have to be a chef to go “This food tastes bad. It needs more salt.” I think AL is fine as individual songs, I even enjoy the overly auto tuned Disney pop ones from time to time, but the album as a whole is a mess. Her attitude in that era didn’t help either, it was so obvious how little she cared about any of it and this was long before Lyme started. It is for me her only album that misses that “Avril” stamp. It feels more Chad and Martin Johnson influenced. Aside from that, I personally experienced some dark times around the time this album came out and unfortunately I associate this album with that. That plays a huge role in my general dislike and aversion to this album. It’s kind of like the opposite way with Taylor’s 1989, I was experiencing really great things in my life at that time and I have very positive memories associated with that record, which is part of the reason it’s one of my favorites. I wish people could just let people dislike the album instead of criticizing them for it. We all have our favorite and least favorite albums from her. If AL is your fave album, cool for you. Nobody is “bitter” about it. Everybody has their reasons for why they don’t like that album and the fact it is the general consensus amongst her fans that it’s her worst and least liked album kind of says a lot. As I said, even Avril herself didn’t seem into it. Quoting myself from my first post about it "I wanna know if all those people are capable of producing, writing, singing and come up with a better album than AL5", I never said her fans can't produce, sing, write or whatever haha so yeah, of course I don't know all those people talking about it, that's EXACTLY why I was questioning if really all the people can do it, or not. But I don't think 100% of the people can anyways. And also I never mentioned any fame or anything, cause being famous isn't a measure of talent and quality! And for the third time, people can say whatever they want about the album, or any album and any song by her, I was putting out my thoughts, which I should be allowed too! And as I said before, I'm not saying people shouldn't do that, isn't that hard to see that I wrote that a few times, I didn't even criticized anyone for it, I was WONDERING if all those people criticizing it so much can do those things I mentioned, that's all. It's so funny how I aso said a few times I don't think AL5 is her best album, and at any moment I said people are bitter about those who love the album (they are out there, someone even commented not long ago) but you guys always take things too deep and personally somehow haha
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Post by pllforlife on Mar 25, 2019 13:34:39 GMT
ALF announced the winner of the Japan contest. Some guy named Danny. Lol isn’t she in Japan like right now? Hopefully they let him know before this week. But in true Av team fashion they probably told him one day before the performance.
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Post by goodbye on Mar 25, 2019 13:34:43 GMT
Lucky One's is on YouTube.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 25, 2019 13:41:17 GMT
ALF announced the winner of the Japan contest. Some guy named Danny. Lol isn’t she in Japan like right now? Hopefully they let him know before this week. But in true Av team fashion they probably told him one day before the performance. I think they told him before they officially announced it, if you read his IG post on it he says something like “I can finally share this.” So he probably was notified before they announced it officially. The performance I don’t think is until later in the week so he has time to get there if he isn’t there already.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 25, 2019 13:45:54 GMT
I mean the thing is you don’t actually know what people here are capable of. Obviously none of us is a famous musician like she is, but some of us are writers or singers or musicians and maybe if we were writing a song we’d do it differently. Like you can’t assume nobody here is actually capable of singing, writing, or producing stuff ‘cause she definitely has fans that are also musicians, even if they aren’t professional like she is. You don’t have to be a chef to go “This food tastes bad. It needs more salt.” I think AL is fine as individual songs, I even enjoy the overly auto tuned Disney pop ones from time to time, but the album as a whole is a mess. Her attitude in that era didn’t help either, it was so obvious how little she cared about any of it and this was long before Lyme started. It is for me her only album that misses that “Avril” stamp. It feels more Chad and Martin Johnson influenced. Aside from that, I personally experienced some dark times around the time this album came out and unfortunately I associate this album with that. That plays a huge role in my general dislike and aversion to this album. It’s kind of like the opposite way with Taylor’s 1989, I was experiencing really great things in my life at that time and I have very positive memories associated with that record, which is part of the reason it’s one of my favorites. I wish people could just let people dislike the album instead of criticizing them for it. We all have our favorite and least favorite albums from her. If AL is your fave album, cool for you. Nobody is “bitter” about it. Everybody has their reasons for why they don’t like that album and the fact it is the general consensus amongst her fans that it’s her worst and least liked album kind of says a lot. As I said, even Avril herself didn’t seem into it. Quoting myself from my first post about it "I wanna know if all those people are capable of producing, writing, singing and come up with a better album than AL5", I never said her fans can't produce, sing, write or whatever haha so yeah, of course I don't know all those people talking about it, that's EXACTLY why I was questioning if really all the people can do it, or not. But I don't think 100% of the people can anyways. And also I never mentioned any fame or anything, cause being famous isn't a measure of talent and quality! And for the third time, people can say whatever they want about the album, or any album and any song by her, I was putting out my thoughts, which I should be allowed too! And as I said before, I'm not saying people shouldn't do that, isn't that hard to see that I wrote that a few times, I didn't even criticized anyone for it, I was WONDERING if all those people criticizing it so much can do those things I mentioned, that's all. It's so funny how I aso said a few times I don't think AL5 is her best album, and at any moment I said people are bitter about those who love the album (they are out there, someone even commented not long ago) but you guys always take things too deep and personally somehow haha I got what you meant, you don’t have to keep repeating yourself. The point is that you basically said no one here can do any better or some fans act like they could do better, the thing is maybe we can. I mean I’ve seen lots of fan art that is miles better than the photos taken by her team. My response about being “bitter” over it was to twinmatrix.
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Post by fih on Mar 25, 2019 14:05:57 GMT
The guy posted on twitter yesterday that he was packing to Japan, but he kinda hinted that he won 3 days ago.
But the events he will attend will happen from March 29th to April 1st based on the description “Between March 29 - April 1, 2019, I’ll be in Tokyo for a very special event! If you win, you and your guest will be flown from anywhere in the world to Tokyo, where you will stay in a 4-star hotel for four days and three nights.”
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 25, 2019 14:12:06 GMT
Lucky One's is on YouTube. From Avril?
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Post by Anti on Mar 25, 2019 14:46:31 GMT
Does anyone know why China’s amazing sales aren’t being added to the total HAW tally? Because China doesn't have the official selling chart using the methodology preferred by United World Chart. Where are you seeing the China sales?
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Post by Franvigno on Mar 25, 2019 15:27:23 GMT
Of course Avril cares about Charts.. Who says she doesn´t, is a liar.. Avril herself said for an Billboard Interview she wished her manager called her again saying her song is just like Girfriend did.
She has to be more ON in social media and make more friendship if she wanna be more relevant now, sadly nowadays is like that.. As Paris Hilton did.. I remember a little more than one year ago, Paris had like 3 million of followers, she followed a lot of celebrities and started to hang out with the plastic Kardashians and she is more than 10M right now, she is back to the spotlight, not as 00 but better than 2 years ago..
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Post by goodbye on Mar 25, 2019 16:18:06 GMT
Lucky One's is on YouTube. From Avril? Sadly from Lauren.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Mar 25, 2019 16:57:37 GMT
The title of the album is simply self titled called Avril Lavigne, not AL5 and it is not crap and rubbish it is an awesome album. Why is everyone always saying they dislike the album and there reasons, actually no, don't answer because I don't care. But since you guys are allowed and entitled to say that album is rubbish I can say the Best damn thing is crap and rubbish
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 25, 2019 16:58:16 GMT
More on social media? Hmmm idk but maybe hanging out with more high profile people yes. But I mean like music collaborations not hanging out with the Kardashians again. I don't think many people notice her on social media but her fans and followers.
Btw Carpool Karaoke could do the trick. Seriously that was a false rumor that I fell for 😣
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 25, 2019 17:05:03 GMT
I'm just happy she used her voice well this album. No more autotune or weird accents.
I do wish she'd retire the lalala, nanana, and mostly the yeahyeahyeah. It sounds good sometimes but unnecessary and it's getting annoying. Makes songs sound more basic IMO.
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Post by heaven on Mar 25, 2019 18:27:38 GMT
I'm just happy she used her voice well this album. No more autotune or or weird accents. I do wish she'd retire the lalala, nanana, and mostly the yeahyeahyeah. It sounds good sometimes but unnecessary and it's getting annoying. Makes songs sound more basic IMO. Happy to see i'm not the only one who hates them. It seems like she uses them to fill the song because she can't do with the words.
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