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Post by Sara on Mar 25, 2019 18:52:45 GMT
Of course Avril cares about Charts.. Who says she doesn´t, is a liar.. Avril herself said for an Billboard Interview she wished her manager called her again saying her song is just like Girfriend did. She has to be more ON in social media and make more friendship if she wanna be more relevant now, sadly nowadays is like that.. As Paris Hilton did.. I remember a little more than one year ago, Paris had like 3 million of followers, she followed a lot of celebrities and started to hang out with the plastic Kardashians and she is more than 10M right now, she is back to the spotlight, not as 00 but better than 2 years ago.. Every musician would be excited to excel on the charts, but a very good album isn't enough to make this happen. Behind it there must be a great strategy, a big teamwork. Most importantly in Avril's case, there are health issues. I think she would have liked to promote the album more, but by now it's clear that she must take it easy. I mean, she clearly said it in that famous letter to the fans. Even for the tour I wouldn't expect great things either. As for AL5, I know there are admirers of it, as already mentioned every fan has their favorite albums. The songs are a bit like photographs: they take you back to some periods, emotions and memories of your life... so it's absolutely all subjective. But I am convinced that Avril had an idea totally opposite to the concept of that album, and that she didn't really feel as her "creature". I'm not saying that's bad, there are songs that I love a lot like Falling Fast or Remember When, but to be honest in an album like HAW you can really feel her soul & feelings.
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Post by Anna on Mar 25, 2019 19:44:42 GMT
Because China doesn't have the official selling chart using the methodology preferred by United World Chart. Where are you seeing the China sales? Am I?
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Post by birdie2020 on Mar 25, 2019 22:43:28 GMT
So this sounds an awful lot like the "Avril Lavigne" thread now . Remember we can all have our opinions, popular or not. For example, I don't rank UMS in my top albums for Avril, no it's not awful, I love Unwanted and Who Knows. I have only one song not on my iPod from it, but it just isn't one of my favorites as an album even though there are great songs on it. Maybe the change from the Take Me Away into Together was too traumatizing (still not a song I listen to, but some love it). Some people on here really dislike LG, but love UMS, whatever. Just like some of us on here don't like AL, which is fine. For me, I like all of the albums, but for different reasons. Some really are better quality and we can acknowledge that whether we could hack out 3 lines of a verse or not. They are all different albums and so, good or bad, they have a different effect on me. Now back to topic, HAW is probably my favorite, but I've grown up right alongside Avril age wise, so a more adult album was a refreshing thing for me to hear. Again it is different from the other albums. Whereas AL had a lot of immature type things (HTNGU for example...). I don't mind critics as long as they can back up why they like/hate stuff and aren't just dropping negativity then leaving it at that. Some people on here clearly know about musical structure and can talk about it intelligently. Some are like me, just knowing what they like and why they like it. I do agree with ame · 雨 and BogoGog24 that you don't necessarily have to have talent to know if what you're hearing works or not.
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Post by birdie on Mar 25, 2019 23:00:32 GMT
Through all the negativity spread against AL i would like to tell something in favor of it, cause as i said in my previous messages it's not her best work but it's not that bad either, i think that it could be done a lot better but i think we all said multiple times that, so... i would like to begin saying that i don't think that she doesn't have any vision on this one, cause there is one in fact and it is Nostalgia! And you can pretty much feel it on almost every song (maybe not RNR, HTNGU or Bad Girl) cause we have 17 and she tell us how she wanted to go back if she could, then we had Hush Hush, i don't know if this one is still about Deryck but anyway it represents a past relationship that once was meant to last forever and in some way ended up badly, but somehow she still believes it and don't want to let it go... then Hello Heartache and i can continue forever all of this songs represents Nostalgia to me, are connected in some way to each other
So i like to hear it when i want something more lighter but also when i'm feeling nostalgic, i think it's true when somebody in here said that we had an album for every mood, it's not her best but we have to appreciate the highs instead of focusin on the lows and i'm one of those who spread some negativity against AL forgetting that has some good in it
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Post by birdie2020 on Mar 25, 2019 23:17:03 GMT
I have seen the nostalgia argument on here before (maybe from you...), and I hear it on some of the songs on there like 17, BS, HTNGU even. Then there are things like RNR that seem to be just there for fun. They are talking about right now. It's is about looking back at the good and bad, but also having fun. Being 17, going to the beach, got a bottle of whatever but it's getting us drunk, slumber parties, being a "Bad Girl", and still being RNR. Aside from LMG, Hush Hush, Hello Heartache and FF, which are more somber, the album is actually pretty upbeat. Much like the way HAW is more mellow, but with the upbeat song in the middle. It has it's mix of "happy" and "sad". #nothatingAL
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Post by birdie on Mar 25, 2019 23:45:00 GMT
I have seen the nostalgia argument on here before (maybe from you...), and I hear it on some of the songs on there like 17, BS, HTNGU even. Then there are things like RNR that seem to be just there for fun. They are talking about right now. It's is also about looking back at the good and bad, but also having having fun. Being 17, going to the beach, got a bottle of whatever but it's getting us drunk, slumber parties, being a "Bad Girl", and still being RNR. Aside from LMG, Hush Hush, Hello Heartache and FF, which are more somber, the album is actually pretty upbeat. Much like the way HAW is more mellow, but with the upbeat song in the middle. It has it's mix of "happy" and "sad". #nothatingAL Actually i think that i take the "nostalgia thing" from another user ahaha anyway i really like your "vision" and i think it comes closer to the truth of what she and her team wanted to create
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 26, 2019 0:00:29 GMT
I'm not trying to backseat moderate but there's a whole thread dedicated to the AL album in the Recording Studio board. Can we please revert back to HAW?
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 26, 2019 0:36:12 GMT
My most listened according to last.fm are HAW, TMIO, Birdie, IFILWTD, the rest are basically the same, and none for DB ☺️.
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Post by Uncle Bob on Mar 26, 2019 3:48:41 GMT
I'm not trying to backseat moderate but there's a whole thread dedicated to the AL album in the Recording Studio board. Can we please revert back to HAW? Really. This is getting annoying. I don't mind so much when people stray from the topic a little as long as it's interesting and of universal importance, like the temperature of ketchup. Or, is it catsup?
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Post by rodrigo1392 on Mar 26, 2019 8:15:50 GMT
Well, I just loved HAW. I mean, it's for sure not her best work ever, but c'mon, she needed a come back album good enough for her to stay in business and continue her brand. And the fact that this one seems a looot more authentic for me than AL5 is a huge progress for her and for us, the fans of the true Av. In some passages I can even spot the old Av. like in LMI and Crush. That being said, I really believe she should change her image and go for a more mature sound, I'm sure she would benefit a lot from other music styles where she could really exploit her talent like crazy.
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Post by Anna on Mar 26, 2019 8:35:01 GMT
She'll be singing Head Above Water on Music Station, Japanese TV show on Friday.
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Post by Duwod on Mar 26, 2019 8:39:03 GMT
i think it's true when somebody in here said that we had an album for every mood That was meee HTNGU gives me nostalgic vibes though.
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Post by gogo87 on Mar 26, 2019 8:49:38 GMT
She'll be singing Head Above Water on Music Station, Japanese TV show on Friday. Does she want we hate this song? Why not DB in Japan?
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Post by slapstick on Mar 26, 2019 9:12:02 GMT
She'll be singing Head Above Water on Music Station, Japanese TV show on Friday. Does she want we hate this song? Why not DB in Japan? Does anybody else mistakenly read "DB" as Deutsche Bahn on the first run? HAW performances really are getting a bit stale, but I think these are targeting new audiences more than fanbases, tbh.
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Post by heaven on Mar 26, 2019 10:50:29 GMT
She can sing Head Above Water how many times she wants, but can she just put another song? The acoustic session of days ago was a great chance to sing a new song and she sang My Happy Ending. I'm just.... .........
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