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Post by sam on Aug 25, 2015 11:21:06 GMT
I agree that this was the only incident where the M&G was awkward like that and there was a reason behind it, but I wonder if should it happen again in the future they should just skip the M&G altogether. Why make fans pay so much money if they can't even stand next to her, shake her hand, etc.? From what fans said about that particular M&G it sounded horrible and they treated fans like they were criminals. TomX said somebody tossed his letter to Avril aside like it was a piece of trash. Ridiculous. I get the reason behind it but if it is going to be that strict, don't make fans pay $400 or whatever ridiculous amount it was for them to be treated like that and just have this awkward experience. Especially when other countries got better, REAL meet and greets. In this case, no meet and greet at all is probably better than a crappy one like that. And all it did was cause drama for Avril because now she has to have this held over her head forever. I really do wonder why they treated people like that, it gave everyone the wrong idea and it pisses me off to be honest just reading it.
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Post by In Wonderland on Aug 25, 2015 11:24:39 GMT
BogoGog24 but others also said that attended the m&gs, if they asked they did get a hug. They could shake her hand - if you asked her.. even tho the security said no. But after all it was only to ask. It was 30sec you got with her but the photo doesn't tell the whole story.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 25, 2015 11:34:22 GMT
BogoGog24 but others also said that attended the m&gs, if they asked they did get a hug. They could shake her hand - if you asked her.. even tho the security said no. But after all it was only to ask. It was 30sec you got with her but the photo doesn't tell the whole story. It still wasn't like what other places got though. I can't imagine spending so much money and only getting like 2 seconds with her and then having this painfully awkward looking photo to remember it by. A picture is worth a thousand words.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 25, 2015 11:38:27 GMT
I agree that this was the only incident where the M&G was awkward like that and there was a reason behind it, but I wonder if should it happen again in the future they should just skip the M&G altogether. Why make fans pay so much money if they can't even stand next to her, shake her hand, etc.? From what fans said about that particular M&G it sounded horrible and they treated fans like they were criminals. TomX said somebody tossed his letter to Avril aside like it was a piece of trash. Ridiculous. I get the reason behind it but if it is going to be that strict, don't make fans pay $400 or whatever ridiculous amount it was for them to be treated like that and just have this awkward experience. Especially when other countries got better, REAL meet and greets. In this case, no meet and greet at all is probably better than a crappy one like that. And all it did was cause drama for Avril because now she has to have this held over her head forever. I really do wonder why they treated people like that, it gave everyone the wrong idea and it pisses me off to be honest just reading it. IDK, all Avril said was that in the past there had been some "incidents." They probably thought someone was going to attack her or something. I seem to remember TomX saying that before the concert started a a group of fans were fighting in the line and had snuck inside earlier than they are supposed to. Early admission was for fans who had paid extra. Some places tend to get crazier than others, so I can see why security was tighter there. I guess if people think the money is worth it for that, that's their prerogative but I think if the M&G has to be so strict like that they shouldn't do one at all.
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Post by In Wonderland on Aug 25, 2015 11:44:44 GMT
BogoGog24 but others also said that attended the m&gs, if they asked they did get a hug. They could shake her hand - if you asked her.. even tho the security said no. But after all it was only to ask. It was 30sec you got with her but the photo doesn't tell the whole story. It still wasn't like what other places got though. I can't imagine spending so much money and only getting like 2 seconds with her and then having this painfully awkward looking photo to remember it by. A picture is worth a thousand words. It was right after the tick bite, right? That can have a lot to say in this case. Touching, even smiling in that condition is difficult. Even tho she didn't know what it was at the time it doesn't change the symptoms. I think everyone who was at the meet and greet knowing what was the reason, does not regret paying. And Tom seemed happy after he did. And Avril could have canceled it. You and me weren't there so technically we gave nothing to say.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 25, 2015 11:56:26 GMT
It still wasn't like what other places got though. I can't imagine spending so much money and only getting like 2 seconds with her and then having this painfully awkward looking photo to remember it by. A picture is worth a thousand words. It was right after the tick bite, right? That can have a lot to say in this case. Touching, even smiling in that condition is difficult. Even tho she didn't know what it was at the time it doesn't change the symptoms. I think everyone who was at the meet and greet knowing what was the reason, does not regret paying. And Tom seemed happy after he did. And Avril could have canceled it. You and me weren't there so technically we gave nothing to say. Yes looking at the dates for the SA leg it appears to be right after she thought she had been bitten. I remember her shows for that leg either started late or were cut short because she started to get sick. This was at the same time she posted the bikini pics on the beach and said "I've been sick for 2 weeks." So it's possible she thought she had the flu or something and didn't want fans to get too close, although if that is the case, they probably shouldn't do a meet and greet at all. Fans only found out what happened after the fact. She didnt mention anything about being sick then, only after she felt better 2 weeks later. At the time of the M&G nobody knew why they were being so strict like that. My point is that if there is some reason why fans can't have a normal meet and greet (Avril is sick, security reasons) they shouldn't bother. It isn't fair to those fans to make them pay so much money for a poor experience. Even if some fans said they loved it and thought it was worth it, it was still unfair that they had to pay the same amount for a crappy M&G as those who got a normal one.
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Post by eismann on Aug 25, 2015 17:04:11 GMT
Wow - this whole 'feud' creates more buzz and articles than her lyme-interview... I feel sorry for taylor: everything she does causes a drama cause she is so super-famous.
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Post by TheRaven on Aug 26, 2015 10:18:38 GMT
I don't know why people had to make a big thing about all this. Yes, someone created that Tumblr post, yes, Taylor liked it, and yes, Avril responded to that. In a pretty good way, not spreading more hate (in my opinion). So is the post all fair? I don't think so at all. It's right, some of those M&G pictures with Avril looked a bit weird, but she wasn't 2 meters away from the fans in all the photos. Whoever organised the meet & greets, I don't think that Avril would pull it off that way again. And you know me. I love both of them.
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Post by TheRaven on Aug 26, 2015 10:22:51 GMT
Wow - this whole 'feud' creates more buzz and articles than her lyme-interview... I feel sorry for taylor: everything she does causes a drama cause she is so super-famous. To be true, I didn't understand the fuss at first. I don't keep up with what people like so... yeah. Whoever looks at what people like all the time probably doesn't have anything to do. With their live at all. (might sound hard, but come on)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:15:40 GMT
Wow - this whole 'feud' creates more buzz and articles than her lyme-interview... I feel sorry for taylor: everything she does causes a drama cause she is so super-famous.Oh yeah sure. It sounds like she has a really tough life. Everyone giving her attention and being 'so super-famous' must really be a total drag for her. Perhaps we should all keep Taylor in our thoughts and make sure she gets through this hardship.
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Post by sam on Aug 26, 2015 19:30:59 GMT
Wow - this whole 'feud' creates more buzz and articles than her lyme-interview... I feel sorry for taylor: everything she does causes a drama cause she is so super-famous.Oh yeah sure. It sounds like she has a really tough life. Everyone giving her attention and being 'so super-famous' must really be a total drag for her. Perhaps we should all keep Taylor in our thoughts and make sure she gets through this hardship. While I agree (with you both) Being famous is 50-50, sure; she has the attention of her fans and I'm sure she loves that. But having your every move published by the media and something as simple as clicking like on a Tumblr post must be a pain in the ass, it might not be for her- she might like the attention that comes along with it. But I am pretty sure not every Celeb appreciates it. And I think that was eismanns point.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 26, 2015 21:34:15 GMT
Oh yeah sure. It sounds like she has a really tough life. Everyone giving her attention and being 'so super-famous' must really be a total drag for her. Perhaps we should all keep Taylor in our thoughts and make sure she gets through this hardship. While I agree (with you both) Being famous is 50-50, sure; she has the attention of her fans and I'm sure she loves that. But having your every move published by the media and something as simple as clicking like on a Tumblr post must be a pain in the ass, it might not be for her- she might like the attention that comes along with it. But I am pretty sure not every Celeb appreciates it. And I think that was eismanns point. I agree. Yes, Taylor is the most powerful star in the world right now and has a great life and great career that most artists could only dream of having, but she has had to pay a very heavy price for it. Imagine having your every move reported on and scrutinized by the media and public. I doubt many people would really want to trade places with her, even if it meant being super rich and popular. This is how people like Britney Spears had a mental breakdown. Britney is a perfect example of how badly fame can affect a person.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Aug 27, 2015 21:58:46 GMT
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Post by sam on Aug 28, 2015 11:17:13 GMT
That clickbait
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Post by sadserenade on Aug 29, 2015 9:34:24 GMT
I think that Taylor has been really bitchy since releasing Shake It Off.I don't respect her anymore.
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