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Post by sam on Sept 24, 2015 18:15:52 GMT
I'm not sure if we will get the rights to Bandaids though, not sure also about the legality of renaming this site and if we made another site we cannot transfer posts it's a tricky one.
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Post by NowISee on Sept 24, 2015 18:17:10 GMT
Such bad "management" on BA-people. Letting us wait for something that probably never was coming back even in the beginning of this.
My suggestion is to change our name. This forum is alive and very much well working. Original BA brought us together, but this is us now. If BA is gone, let it. Let us unite and make this our own!
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Post by ⋆niki⋆ on Sept 24, 2015 18:23:42 GMT
What if the administrators would make a contest among the members to pick a new name and make a similar, but another site or at least a forum? Suggest some names, then add the bests from the members and then make a poll?
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Post by sam on Sept 24, 2015 18:24:22 GMT
Such bad "management" on BA-people. Letting us wait for something that probably never was coming back even in the beginning of this. My suggestion is to change our name. This forum is alive and very much well working. Original BA brought us together, but this is us now. If BA is gone, let it. Let us unite and make this our own! Well to be honest when we made this we was told lots of progress was made and it was kind of clear the site would be back. It's only when they didn't reply to us a few months after this that we got skeptical about the site's return.
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Post by NowISee on Sept 24, 2015 18:32:04 GMT
Such bad "management" on BA-people. Letting us wait for something that probably never was coming back even in the beginning of this. My suggestion is to change our name. This forum is alive and very much well working. Original BA brought us together, but this is us now. If BA is gone, let it. Let us unite and make this our own! Well to be honest when we made this we was told lots of progress was made and it was kind of clear the site would be back. It's only when they didn't reply to us a few months after this that we got skeptical about the site's return. i kind of predicted this from the beginning. No upgrade for a forum takes this long, no matter how huge the forum t is. I just feel sorry for those who may have donated/bought better accounts just before the site went down.
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Post by Amanda on Sept 24, 2015 18:36:07 GMT
You guys who seem to think its easy to just change the name, do also think about the fact that this site is a temporary forum for bandaids, and we got rights to make it into a temporary forum. I'm not sure how the owner would like if all of a sudden, the site directed from avrilbandaids.com has nothing to do with Bandaids. Since this site is for bandaids, it might be possible we wont be allowed to just change this site, but have to create a fully new one, which will take a lot of time to get it up running again. It's not so easy. The best way, and probably not possible, would be if someone at this site could co-own bandaids or if we could buy off bandaids. But that's probably not possible so.
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Post by In Wonderland on Sept 24, 2015 18:40:40 GMT
You guys who seem to think its easy to just change the name, do also think about the fact that this site is a temporary forum for bandaids, and we got rights to make it into a temporary forum. I'm not sure how the owner would like if all of a sudden, the site directed from avrilbandaids.com has nothing to do with Bandaids. Since this site is for bandaids, it might be possible we wont be allowed to just change this site, but have to create a fully new one, which will take a lot of time to get it up running again. It's not so easy. The best way, and probably not possible, would be if someone at this site could co-own bandaids or if we could buy off bandaids. But that's probably not possible so. As long as bandaids is redricted here, Shafira has given us the rights. So as long as that is there we're safe.
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Post by NowISee on Sept 24, 2015 18:41:55 GMT
If BA is gone, how it will direct people here? Someone needs to break the connection if there's a link.
Getting someone from BA is such a shortsided option. What happens then if they want to leave?! We are all over again against the same issue.
How long did it take to make this forum? I bet all of us can help, if help is needed.
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Post by NowISee on Sept 24, 2015 18:46:02 GMT
In the end, of course no decision should be made in a hurry. I'm just afraid that one day this site won't be here and as I have no other connection to any of you, I'm afraid I can't then find you anymore. That's why i feel like you need backup plans. Something that is fully in your own hands only.
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Post by Light02 on Sept 24, 2015 18:47:07 GMT
You guys who seem to think its easy to just change the name, do also think about the fact that this site is a temporary forum for bandaids, and we got rights to make it into a temporary forum. I'm not sure how the owner would like if all of a sudden, the site directed from avrilbandaids.com has nothing to do with Bandaids. Since this site is for bandaids, it might be possible we wont be allowed to just change this site, but have to create a fully new one, which will take a lot of time to get it up running again. It's not so easy. The best way, and probably not possible, would be if someone at this site could co-own bandaids or if we could buy off bandaids. But that's probably not possible so. Why do you think it wouldn't be possible?
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Post by In Wonderland on Sept 24, 2015 18:48:26 GMT
Since this forum aren't bandaids - just a temporary version - we or more correct Sam and Marliz have the rights to this forum. Their admins. If we choose to change our name, legally there should be no problem. And we have to ask for the redrict to be removed. Yes we have started and used this forum under the name bandaids, but we built it, we don't pay for it, we doesn't use the server or the domain name. If we want to use this forum and change its name we should be able to do so. There aren't any laws against it as i can find. Had we on the other hand taken over the original site we would have had a different story.
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Post by sam on Sept 24, 2015 19:23:34 GMT
If BA is gone, how it will direct people here? Someone needs to break the connection if there's a link. Getting someone from BA is such a shortsided option. What happens then if they want to leave?! We are all over again against the same issue. How long did it take to make this forum? I bet all of us can help, if help is needed. It was done in a day or two. But that was bare bones with just the threads. The site has been expanded on since then so I'd say maybe 2-3 days of work is needed if we make a new forum. But this is just an estimate- the thing that would take the most amount of time is creating a new theme and banner.
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Post by marliz. on Sept 24, 2015 20:00:49 GMT
I don't even want to continue under the name Bandaids. It's their problem now and I don't want to have anything to do with it anymore. They fucked us over ever since me and Dylan became admins. Actually even before that, when BA started to get site issues and viruses. Only the moderators cared about the site and wanted to see a change. You have no idea how often we brought up ideas to fix it, but no upper staff would do anything. Then they had this brilliant idea to make Dylan and me admins, completely left the site, and made it our problem. But what could we do? Nothing. Bandaids went downhill from then and there was nothing we could do. There was zero communication. And then as you all know when the site was down, it was gonna be upgraded s**n. Soon took longer than expected and we were left wondering what happened without any answers given. And still here we are.
such team, much communication. I'm here for a fresh start.
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Post by TomX on Sept 24, 2015 20:12:57 GMT
Fuck it : Zach, Sharifa, Devon, Lewis are all hipocrits who only "support" Avril when she invites them to her private parties or concerts..now that she's not returning for a while they couldn't care less about a site that takes money away from their pockets just so that some users can debate on topics or participate in contests. I'm really pissed with all of them , not the rest of the mods who are still around (you guys have nothing to do with this shit) , but with these guys who only take advantage of situations to get front row tickets or vip passes from her..way to go guys...never thought of supporting her in sickness, right? So that's it, old forum is never coming back. PS: Please, not the "Little" from LBS... ..if the name were to change, there should be a poll with different alternatives for it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 24, 2015 20:37:48 GMT
Look, I appreciate what Sharifa and the rest of them have done for the site, for making it in the first place and Sharifa for many years did actually pay for the site out of her own pocket which is very generous and for awhile everything was great on the old site. And they also did many times help other members get to meet Avril and go to her events. But many times now Marliz and other staff have tried to get in touch with them, especially Sharifa, and she failed to communicate with us. If she gets pissed because we took things into our own hands, she had plenty of fair warning and she refused to communicate with us at all about anything. Considering that she barely ever seems to notice our activity, she probably would never notice what we ended up doing with the site, since she no longer seems to care about it anyway. And even if she did, I doubt she would or probably could sue us, the worst thing that could probably happen is maybe she would just tell us to take the site down. The worst thing I ever saw happen when other countries would use the BA trademark in their Twitter accounts without permission was that we would just tell them not to use the BA name and they probably just changed it to something else. They were still allowed to have their own website. I doubt we will get sued or anything.
I could frankly give less of a shit if she gets mad if we take over from here and do things our own way. Like someone else mentioned, if she didn't care about the site anymore why didn't she let us know and hand over the rights to somebody else? There were plenty of ways she could have handled the situation and she chose to just drop the ball on her own website and leave the rest of you holding the bag. It would serve her and the rest of them right if you guys just took over from here. That's probably what they want anyway.
You might not be able to rename this specific forum, but there is no law that says you can't form your own fan site or just start a new forum on ProBoards. Literally anyone in the world with a computer has the right to make his own website, so long as the name is not trademarked. All you need to do is buy a domain name and it is yours to create. Any one of us hypothetically could buy a domain name (LittleBlackStars.com, or something like that) and create the site and we wouldn't be violating any laws. We have the right to create a fan site if we want to. As long as we aren't still using the BA name, we aren't doing anything wrong. Sharifa owns the BA name, she doesn't own the right to have the only Avril Lavigne fan site.
I'm sure most of us would rather have a site that is fully functional and fully owned and controlled by people who are active and care about its well being than a name.
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