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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 19:02:04 GMT
This is a big deal, and all I can say about it is that I'm disappointed - not so much for me, but for the fans who really look up to Avril and see her as their idol. Thankfully I'm a bit past that way of thinking, otherwise news like this could be pretty crushing. Of course we all want new music, but at the end of the day charities like the ALF are way more important than a new album or whatever, and it's really sad to see it go on hiatus. It's not the first thing Avril has done (or hasn't done) over the past few years that has raised an eyebrow honestly, but this might be the tipping point for me.
As eismann said, there might be legal issues going on which Avril is unable to disclose, but that's literally the only good excuse for this. Lack of funds is a bullshit excuse, conservation of energy is a bullshit excuse, even her own illness is a bullshit excuse. It's not like Avril personally mans the ALF every day, yet she could no doubt pay for the whole thing out of her own pocket like it was small change, or ask all of her wealthy friends to chip in. It's very sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 20:30:09 GMT
That sucks for the people who donated to the last campaign to help those with lyme disease she did through the ALF like a month ago. I would feel ripped off.. I admit I donated $400 to the first thing she did but I was stupid but at least it did go to a good cause.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jan 2, 2016 2:09:01 GMT
Hmmm this is interesting... I don't really know what to think about it. I'm sure there is a good reason behind it, something she can't disclose to us, but it just really.... sucks.
As someone who's family works for a nonprofit I can say that it takes a lot of work to keep it going. If the grants dry up it's almost impossible to keep employees paid and dole out whatever services your offering. Yes Avril has millions of dollars, but that would only keep it afloat so long. I think some of you might be underestimating how much money it takes to run a nonprofit.
I'd be interested to see if it comes back once she's in the spotlight again and more likely to get funds for it.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 2, 2016 3:18:51 GMT
Hmmm this is interesting... I don't really know what to think about it. I'm sure there is a good reason behind it, something she can't disclose to us, but it just really.... sucks. As someone who's family works for a nonprofit I can say that it takes a lot of work to keep it going. If the grants dry up it's almost impossible to keep employees paid and dole out whatever services your offering. Yes Avril has millions of dollars, but that would only keep it afloat so long. I think some of you might be underestimating how much money it takes to run a nonprofit. I'd be interested to see if it comes back once she's in the spotlight again and more likely to get funds for it. Exactly. The station I work for is technically a non-profit so we rely a lot on donations to keep running. An organization like ALF must cost millions to keep running, those employees not only need a salary but also probably get benefits as well. I think some people just assume "Oh Avril is filthy rich, she can afford it," when really it doesn't work like that at all. Just because she has millions of dollars doesn't mean she actually can keep supporting it on her own forever. Non-profits don't work like that.
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Post by Gabo on Jan 2, 2016 5:06:58 GMT
I think she's running out of money to keep the foundation... that's it!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 6:45:18 GMT
Very rich people use foundations to shelter high income. If income goes down, the reasons to keep it going become less compelling. I to think it has to do with her tax situation which has been destabilized due to her health and marital issues as well, perhaps, to poor AL sales. I really feel for her as she goes through these tough times. But then she's tough when she needs to be, and she's still raking in major $$$ from royalties, interest and probably many more income streams.
First I want her to get well. Then do what her passions call. It's her passion for life that got me hooked in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 7:56:24 GMT
Hmmm this is interesting... I don't really know what to think about it. I'm sure there is a good reason behind it, something she can't disclose to us, but it just really.... sucks. As someone who's family works for a nonprofit I can say that it takes a lot of work to keep it going. If the grants dry up it's almost impossible to keep employees paid and dole out whatever services your offering. Yes Avril has millions of dollars, but that would only keep it afloat so long. I think some of you might be underestimating how much money it takes to run a nonprofit.I'd be interested to see if it comes back once she's in the spotlight again and more likely to get funds for it. Yes, let's spare a thought for the 1%. Heaven forbid they downsize their lifestyles before they let their beloved charities go.
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Post by paperbackwriter on Jan 2, 2016 14:35:53 GMT
Hmmm this is interesting... I don't really know what to think about it. I'm sure there is a good reason behind it, something she can't disclose to us, but it just really.... sucks. As someone who's family works for a nonprofit I can say that it takes a lot of work to keep it going. If the grants dry up it's almost impossible to keep employees paid and dole out whatever services your offering. Yes Avril has millions of dollars, but that would only keep it afloat so long. I think some of you might be underestimating how much money it takes to run a nonprofit.I'd be interested to see if it comes back once she's in the spotlight again and more likely to get funds for it. Yes, let's spare a thought for the 1%. Heaven forbid they downsize their lifestyles before they let their beloved charities go. How do we even know how much money she has? Everyone is just assuming she's still loaded, but maybe not. It happens all the time millionaires over spend and then wham they go bankrupt. We don't really know why they paused the foundation. To just assume she'd rather be rich than help people is a little over the top.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 14:45:50 GMT
Yes, let's spare a thought for the 1%. Heaven forbid they downsize their lifestyles before they let their beloved charities go. How do we even know how much money she has? Everyone is just assuming she's still loaded, but maybe not. It happens all the time millionaires over spend and then wham they go bankrupt. We don't really know why they paused the foundation. To just assume she'd rather be rich than help people is a little over the top. Didn't she move into that massive new house in Hollywood a couple of months ago? Of course it's just an assumption that she's loaded, I'm not her accountant and I don't know her personally. But I think it's a fairly safe one.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 2, 2016 15:23:06 GMT
But as I mentioned before, she has some major real life expenses right now. Presumably she doesn't have health insurance, as the type of job she has would not traditionally provide that, so she presumably pays out of pocket for all of her medical expenses including doctor visits, tests, and her medications, which can costs hundreds of thousands of dollars if you don't have insurance. I don't know if she bought that house full price or if she might be paying a monthly mortgage on it, it costs a ton of money to keep a big house like that running, with all the utilities and maintenance cost, plus she owns other properties in addition to that. Add on to that that she is paying legal fees to lawyers due to her recent divorce and she is probably getting all of that stuff sorted out. Then she also has other businesses she pours money into, such as some of her recent music projects and Abbey Dawn. A portion of money she earns also must be paid to her management, lawyers, etc. Her taxes are going to be high because of how much money she makes. When you take all that into account, it's perfectly understandable why she might not be able to afford the foundation anymore. Yes she can downsize on the houses, cars, etc. but we don't know if she is doing that or not. That would be yet another thing to add onto her already full plate plus she would have to pay fees to a realtor. It's not as easy as just snapping your fingers and you automatically can downsize or save money or whatever. It's clear from her message that she enjoys and feels passionate about what she does. I think she will try her best to keep it going, whatever that might mean.
But besides a money problem or a tax situation, it really could just be that Avril has so much on her plate right now with everything I mentioned. Yes, she is not there for the day to day operations, but we don't know the exact extent of how involved she is or isn't, we know she likes to be involved with all her projects and be a part of it, she's obviously very passionate about it and I can understand why with everything going on right now that she might just need a breather or wants to give the employees a break for the holidays and start fresh again the new year. She probably feels like she can't be as involved right now as she used to be or wants to be because of what's going on in her personal life and even if she is not involved in the day to day basis, it is her foundation in the end and perhaps she feels like she either needs to be as involved as she can or pause it until she can put more time into it.
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Post by StrongSweet on Jan 2, 2016 16:45:27 GMT
I'm not comfortable how people really judge so quickly. You are rich, doesn't mean it's everything. Not money can solve any long-term issues. To use money for fixing them, it must have a day running out. Heavy work and worse health are very logical together, she is facing that serious illness that control over her life, it should be understandable to pause ALF a little while.... you guys... I've never thought LBS would be like that. Lots of negative going on, what's wrong?!
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Post by Dillon on Jan 2, 2016 16:46:12 GMT
I'm sure Avril has health insurance; just like anyone who is self-employed, Avril can get health insurance from private insurance companies. Whether she has insurance or not, she is paying a lot. Without insurance Avril would have to pay for medical expenses out of her pocket. With insurance, she would have to pay a lot each month to keep the insurance as well as pay for any amount that her insurance doesn't cover… and I would say that it is very likely that Avril's insurance wouldn't cover all of her medical expenses due to their high cost; but that would depend on how much Avril pays each month for her insurance, assuming she even has insurance. Bottom line is that she is paying a pretty penny for her treatment. ___
But how much do you expect Avril to give up before she draws the line and stops giving? Yes, she's a millionaire, but that doesn't mean she didn't earn it. Sure, not everyone can be a successful musical artist and earn millions of dollars because of it, but that doesn't mean that the wealthy can't continue to be wealthy. Avril loves giving and sharing her wealth, which she has been doing; why else would she become philanthropist and establish her charity foundation? Avril didn't start ALF as a way for her to spend her money, she did it for the help it brings people. If in the end it is solely Avril's money that supports ALF, then it is her decision to decide when she can no longer support it financially.
I think the foundation's pause is being caused by its current finances, but I think there are other reasons at work too. Avril tends to ALF during her downtime between albums, but she may be kicking into full album-mode soon. Who knows, maybe some of the employees have left for other jobs. Maybe the SO took more resources than expected and there aren't enough resources for the smaller projects right now.
We just don't know. Avril doesn't really share what she does outside of her career, so we don't know how much she actively participates in ALF. Sometimes she doesn't even share much about her career either (e.g. plans and timeframe for album 6).
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Post by eismann on Jan 2, 2016 17:02:25 GMT
What really surprises me is her official annoucement - like another user already said: Why not taking it slowly with the foundation and do a little less in 2016. Her Annoucement sounds like there wont be any employees anymore and that people shouldnt donate for her foundation anymore. So there is something bigger going on than just Avril being exhausted from Lyme etc.
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Post by Avengium on Jan 2, 2016 17:13:53 GMT
What really surprises me is her official annoucement - like another user already said: Why not taking it slowly with the foundation and do a little less in 2016. Her Annoucement sounds like there wont be any employees anymore and that people shouldnt donate for her foundation anymore. So there is something bigger going on than just Avril being exhausted from Lyme etc. i'm agree with Eismann. "pausing" is an hiatus thing, or a temporary disbanding. With posibilities of coming back.
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