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Post by TomX on Dec 18, 2015 13:57:05 GMT
Is it just me or did the post sound like she's tired of this treatment? lots of "...". I am beginning to think if she'll ever be 100% cured.
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Post by sam on Dec 18, 2015 14:01:17 GMT
Is it just me or did the post sound like she's tired of this treatment? lots of "...". I am beginning to think if she'll ever be 100% cured. I think she is more or less- I think the "lots of" is just her talking about how much treatment she has gone through to get to where she is now.
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Post by In Wonderland on Dec 18, 2015 14:16:30 GMT
TomX The treatment is a long run. Of course you get tired of it.. and you will never know if you ever will be 100% again, before you walked all the way. Some will, others don't. But when you have been so far down, 60-80% is an amazing feeling, that you can live with
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Post by britanny30182 on Dec 18, 2015 14:27:37 GMT
I read from some people who has Lyme that it's almost impossible to make 100 % recovery. These antibiotics only keep it under control .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 14:32:27 GMT
To add to what In Wonderland is saying, try to keep that stuff in mind as she posts more of this. The last thing she needs are fans questioning if she'll ever get better. At this point all we can do is trust that the doctors know what the hell they're doing (which most of the time they don't....), and have some faith in her recovery.
It's gonna take a whole lot more effort on Avril's part (which thankfully she has been doing) such as lifestyle changes, changes to the way she eats, and stress management.
Take it from people like In Wonderland and myself who know the struggle of trying to bounce back after something like what Avril's going through. And Avril is thankfully getting better. Or at least that's what she's telling everyone. It's a day to day type of thing for sure.
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Post by TomX on Dec 18, 2015 15:27:25 GMT
TomX The treatment is a long run. Of course you get tired of it.. and you will never know if you ever will be 100% again, before you walked all the way. Some will, others don't. But when you have been so far down, 60-80% is an amazing feeling, that you can live with I feel so bad for her, because you can tell it in her eyes how much she's been struggling these past two years. I guess that lyme is just another chronic disease like diabetes or HIV, that people have to cope their entire lives with, but that with medication and controls you can have a completely normal life. She just needs to get her feet back on track. She's got the strength to do it.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 18, 2015 16:18:06 GMT
I read from some people who has Lyme that it's almost impossible to make 100 % recovery. These antibiotics only keep it under control . In Avril's words, everything is possible ~
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 18, 2015 18:37:35 GMT
Avril has stated before that she eventually expects to make a full recovery. Maybe by now it's changed but I do think it's quite possible to recover 100% from Lyme IF it's caught early enough. Who knows if that is the case with Avril but it might be.
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Post by Avengium on Dec 19, 2015 11:54:56 GMT
Avril has stated before that she eventually expects to make a full recovery. Maybe by now it's changed but I do think it's quite possible to recover 100% from Lyme IF it's caught early enough. Who knows if that is the case with Avril but it might be. I think Avril's Lyme wasn't caught early. The bacterium (Borrelia burgdorferi) has months of incubation until one must stay "bedridden". Avril was bedridden months later (not inmediately) the tick (Ixodes scapularis) bite her and transmitted her the bacterium. In the first months, the bacterium was growing unnoticed inside Avril's body extending her influence among different organs. And then, i think Avril was at Lyme Stage 2 because she discovered Lyme months later. There's no actual vaccine against Borrelia burgdorferi. From wikipedia: "Borrellia Burgdorferi will change its glycoproteins and proteases on its plasma membrane to facilitate its dissemination throughout the blood." Dissemination through blood. This in spanish is: Bacteriemia. The Borrelia lives also in blood that uses to reach every organ of the body and install in it. In stage 2, if the tick bite or the early symptoms was unnoticed the bacterium reach blood. And now is "very, very, very" difficult you can exterminate every bacterium (with no vaccine). Just one bacterium that lives can reproduce a colony. And in blood or other organs can be hundreds of thousands of bacterium. The treatment Avril is taking i think is for stopping her infection in Stage 2. With a good treatment she never develops stage 3 of Lyme. If Avril ever in future has Guard Down. The bacterium will be waiting inside Avril's body to develop symptoms.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 19, 2015 12:47:00 GMT
Avril has stated before that she eventually expects to make a full recovery. Maybe by now it's changed but I do think it's quite possible to recover 100% from Lyme IF it's caught early enough. Who knows if that is the case with Avril but it might be. I think Avril's Lyme wasn't caught early. The bacterium (Borrelia burgdorferi) has months of incubation until one must stay "bedridden". Avril was bedridden months later (not inmediately) the tick (Ixodes scapularis) bite her and transmitted her the bacterium. In the first months, the bacterium was growing unnoticed inside Avril's body extending her influence among different organs. And then, i think Avril was at Lyme Stage 2 because she discovered Lyme months later. There's no actual vaccine against Borrelia burgdorferi. From wikipedia: "Borrellia Burgdorferi will change its glycoproteins and proteases on its plasma membrane to facilitate its dissemination throughout the blood." Dissemination through blood. This in spanish is: Bacteriemia. The Borrelia lives also in blood that uses to reach every organ of the body and install in it. In stage 2, if the tick bite or the early symptoms was unnoticed the bacterium reach blood. And now is "very, very, very" difficult you can exterminate every bacterium (with no vaccine). Just one bacterium that lives can reproduce a colony. And in blood or other organs can be hundreds of thousands of bacterium. The treatment Avril is taking i think is for stopping her infection in Stage 2. With a good treatment she never develops stage 3 of Lyme. If Avril ever in future has Guard Down. The bacterium will be waiting inside Avril's body to develop symptoms. That's very sad, it's like ADS And I dun think she can handle jet lag when on the road, probably less promotion and tour~
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Post by helloheartache on Dec 19, 2015 13:08:02 GMT
Avril has stated before that she eventually expects to make a full recovery. Maybe by now it's changed but I do think it's quite possible to recover 100% from Lyme IF it's caught early enough. Who knows if that is the case with Avril but it might be. I think Avril's Lyme wasn't caught early. The bacterium (Borrelia burgdorferi) has months of incubation until one must stay "bedridden". Avril was bedridden months later (not inmediately) the tick (Ixodes scapularis) bite her and transmitted her the bacterium. In the first months, the bacterium was growing unnoticed inside Avril's body extending her influence among different organs. And then, i think Avril was at Lyme Stage 2 because she discovered Lyme months later. There's no actual vaccine against Borrelia burgdorferi. From wikipedia: "Borrellia Burgdorferi will change its glycoproteins and proteases on its plasma membrane to facilitate its dissemination throughout the blood." Dissemination through blood. This in spanish is: Bacteriemia. The Borrelia lives also in blood that uses to reach every organ of the body and install in it. In stage 2, if the tick bite or the early symptoms was unnoticed the bacterium reach blood. And now is "very, very, very" difficult you can exterminate every bacterium (with no vaccine). Just one bacterium that lives can reproduce a colony. And in blood or other organs can be hundreds of thousands of bacterium. The treatment Avril is taking i think is for stopping her infection in Stage 2. With a good treatment she never develops stage 3 of Lyme. If Avril ever in future has Guard Down. The bacterium will be waiting inside Avril's body todevelop symptoms. That sounds very scary. I'm so glad and thankful she's recovering and she's making proggress in her treatment.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Dec 19, 2015 15:55:10 GMT
It wasn't caught super early but she also didn't spend like years with it before she caught it. I don't know what the cutoff time is before it's considered too late. All we know is she thinks she was bit in April 2014, she started feeling ill on AL Tour, setlist in SA was cut short, she tweeted a pic at the beach saying she had been sick for 2 weeks, I guess thinking she had the flu. The second to last show of the tour I remember was cancelled without explanation. In September she went to celebrate her birthday at some event in the pink dress and that's when she really started feeling ill. At this point it had been 6 months since she was bitten. We don't know how soon she started to seek treatment and we know it was a long process for her to get properly diagnosed. In December she tweeted the infamous "I'm having some health issues, please pray for me." It's unclear from that if she had been diagnosed and knew it was Lyme or she still didn't know yet what it was.
We basically heard nothing again until April 1st, 2015, about a year after she was first bit, in the People article explaining everything. At that time she said she was already 80% recovered and expected to make a full recovery. It was I think in June that she appeared on TV for an interview, saying pretty much the same thing. It's now another 9 months later and she's still receiving treatment. I can't help but wonder if 80% better in April was a miscalculation because in 9 months I would have thought she'd be better by now. We saw her tweet a pic of all the pills and antibiotics she has to take. I believe the way it works is that she has to change her course of treatment every so often because the disease builds up an immunity against the antibiotics, so the antibiotics have to change. We also saw her getting her blood checked so she probably has blood tests regularly. She hasn't shared every little detail about her ordeal and treatment with us, just an update here and there, so it's difficult to really make a conclusion about where she's at and if or when she'll fully recover. I'm not super knowledgable about Lyme disease. It's possible people can end up with chronic Lyme, for all we know she might have to take meds for the rest of her life to keep it in check or she might have to do shorter tours, promo, etc. I hope at some point she'll explain a bit more how she's really progressing but I think that if things weren't getting better for her she wouldn't be posting these pictures. So that's a good sign IMO.
ETA: Forgot to mention she released the GYWYL video in February 2015, before the People article came out. It was probably filmed sometime in January or early Feb, in her home, and we know her level of energy/activity was minimal. At this point I expect she probably had been diagnosed by that point and had started to make some recovery as she at least was out of bed and able to do a bit of movement, which she could not do before. At some point probably in March or April the Fly video was shot and she was standing, recording the song.
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Post by StrongSweet on Dec 19, 2015 16:10:47 GMT
I also dun think shes a person to lie at herself. Maybe her doctor told her its possible thats why she keeps emphazising it coz in general knowing about lyme, the patiets couldnt make full recovery and she wants to reaffirm I guess
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