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Post by katy on May 25, 2023 6:28:11 GMT
Also is anyone else highly suspicious about this “vault track”? Like no way is it a vault track from midnights lol. I’d put good money on it being a song she’s either written in the last few months, or a song she wrote years and years ago and is passing it off as a song cut from Midnights because she knows it fits in with all the breakup interest I think it’s pretty plausible that she did write the song around the same time she wrote the other Midnights songs, but since she was still in her relationship with Joe at the time, the premise of the song was too vulnerable and fresh for her to want to release back then. But now that their relationship is over (and she’s not constantly fearing that her relationship might be ending every day) she feels comfortable releasing the song because it’s now about the past and not the present. Mm maybe but I just don’t believe at all that this breakup was coming for a while. Relationship a bit rocky, yes, most are, but I don’t think they’d been on the verge of breaking up for months and months. Not when she’s making the choice to release Lavender Haze, Sweet Nothing and All The Girls. Even The Great War (“I will always be yours”). Imo the breakup was sudden and she’s pulled this song out of her arse because it’ll cause enough interest to get her £££. No way was it originally intended for Midnights it’s just too convenient And hahaha Andrea don’t even get me started on the collab. “Hey wanna be on my song and keep quiet about all the offensive stuff my boyfriend said about you? Ok great”
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 25, 2023 12:01:04 GMT
Yeah a lot of fans are assuming if Ice Spice agreed to be on the song then she must have discussed these things with Taylor or Matty supposedly apologized and they’re good now, but who’s to say she didn’t decide to turn her down because… ya know… it’s Taylor Swift. She knows she’ll get huge publicity and money out of it, she’d probably agree to it even if she still wasn’t happy with the comments. I definitely think this was a deliberate choice to collab with her and capitalize off the articles going around about what Matty said about her.
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Post by katy on May 25, 2023 12:18:53 GMT
Yeah it’s all a bit… icky. Collab with me so we can prove my boyfriend isn’t racist. No thanks Taylor lol just date a better person x
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Post by biggerwow on May 25, 2023 16:20:14 GMT
It sadly must be a thing Ice Spice might deal with now. Business and money comes first in that world. She also has a Nicki Minaj Collab in 2023. And that woman has doxxed other women who talk about her r*pist husband. So she's just in the mud with these people trying to make it.
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Post by katy on May 26, 2023 6:49:34 GMT
Happy to have Hits Different on streaming but the other two.. meh. I don’t enjoy a rap verse ever and I will never understand the appeal of Lana
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 26, 2023 12:25:04 GMT
Happy to have Hits Different on streaming but the other two.. meh. I don’t enjoy a rap verse ever and I will never understand the appeal of Lana My thoughts exactly! Love finally having Hits Different, but the Karma remix is awful and completely unnecessary. I’ve been seeing mixed reaction on it and there’s quite a few even diehard fans who don’t like it. It sounds forced and they removed one of the best verses of the song just to make room for it. They tried to be too cute with the lyrics and make it trendy like “facts” and “karma is my bestie” 🥴 Sorry it’s just cringe I didn’t care for the Lana remix either. I know her fans are happy to have it and good for them but I’ve never been a Lana fan either and they changed some of the instruments and removed literally the BEST PART of the whole song with that gorgeous outro! I’ll likely never listen again to either of these 2 remixes. The OGs are definitely superior. I will be playing HD on repeat though
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 26, 2023 18:19:13 GMT
Bits of You’re Losing Me are floating around and omg you guys aren’t ready, it’s 100% about Joe and it may be her most heartbreaking breakup song ever
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Post by katy on May 26, 2023 18:24:07 GMT
Just listened to it, so sad! I'll be back when I find a better quality version and I can fully analyse the lyrics lmao
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Post by biggerwow on May 26, 2023 18:51:02 GMT
Just listened to it, so sad! I'll be back when I find a better quality version and I can fully analyse the lyrics lmao
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 26, 2023 19:01:02 GMT
It’s like a mix of Cornelia Street and ATW
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Post by katy on May 26, 2023 19:08:37 GMT
Just listened to it, so sad! I'll be back when I find a better quality version and I can fully analyse the lyrics lmao Thank you! It’s so sad. Feel for her, feel for him. Reminds me of the “there are many different ways to kill the one you love, the slowest way is never loving them enough” line in high infidelity. It does seem like there’s no drama though, which is odd because that doesn’t line up with her weird rebound and the mass unfollowing, but celebs work in weird ways I guess lol. The marriage line is quite telling of where it all went wrong.
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Post by katy on May 26, 2023 19:53:43 GMT
ALSO I saw someone say on twitter about the “pathological people pleaser” and “you might’ve just dealt the final blow” lines possibly being linked, like as in he said something along those lines to her and she took it really badly because.. well we know that’s what she’s like lol she seems easily hurt by things like that. And now she’s dating gross Matty to be like “lol you think I’m a people pleaser? Let me go date someone everyone hates”
But she’s also completely acknowledges she’s a people pleaser in mirrorball so it might also be way off. But interesting take either way
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 26, 2023 20:01:44 GMT
Who knows, could have been lots of reasons they didn’t work out. Some are suggesting maybe at first Taylor really liked hiding and keeping the relationship a secret but after a while got tired of it. It’s a little unrealistic for someone as huge as her to think she can really ever have a completely normal or private life, no matter how hard she tries. And it seems like maybe she wanted to get married and he didn’t, which tbh I don’t really blame him for as it’s probably a ton of pressure to try to propose to the woman who has everything and then how they’d keep the wedding from going into chaos, I mean she can’t even walk to a building without crowds forming. I’m not surprised with how low key and private of a person he is that he just got sick of all that. At first maybe things worked because they both wanted to hide from the world but once she didn’t need to anymore he wasn’t on board with that. The differences in their personalities and life goals started to become too apparent to ignore.
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Post by crylerjames23 on May 27, 2023 0:51:10 GMT
I'm in love with You're Losing Me ❤️
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Post by Dillon on May 27, 2023 4:51:04 GMT
I agree that this Karma remix just doesn’t work. It sounds forced. Ice Spice gives no emotion in the vocal performance. She’s barely even rapping. It’s more like she’s trying to talk her way through the song. Even in the music video she shows almost no emotion and just looks like she doesn’t want to be involved.
I’m not biggest fan of rapping being put into pop songs; but when they’re done right they can turn out really good. Karma just isn’t one of those times. And it’s shame. Having known nothing prior about Ice Spice, I had high hopes that this rap remix was gonna be Bad Blood feat Kendrick 2.0. But it falls so short.
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