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Post by Dillon on Jul 24, 2019 1:30:08 GMT
I can't get over the fact that the beginning of this song sounds like it's from an animated Disney princess movie, and then it fades and changes into a song that sounds like it's featured in a movie that was released this year but set back in time from the 1980s.
Does that make sense?
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Post by biggerwow on Jul 24, 2019 2:53:26 GMT
I'm really not getting the fans on Instagram losing their shit over it, calling it her best song, a "masterpiece" (far from it), saying they're crying over it... ok it's an emotional track about how she realizes her tendencies in relationships and how she's trying to save it and stop herself from ruining it. How all her enemies started off as friends. There's definitely some meaningful and vulnerable stuff she's talking about here, but I don't get people crying over it. Ronan was a tearjerker, not this. Tbh I really despise those kind of fans that just love everything she does, how every song she puts out is ThE bEsT sOnG eVaaaRRR. They hype everything up because it's new. Then when the next thing comes out, THAT'S the best song. So it's not even like they genuinely like the song, they only like it because it's new and that fucking grinds my gears lol My ranking of the track 5s: All Too Well (come on, nothing is ever going to beat that in terms of her emotional tracks) All You Had to Do Was Stay Dear John Delicate White Horse The Archer Cold As You (sorry, could just never stand this song, this is another one people love for some reason but I always thought it was terribly boring and her voice is too whiny on it) I'm sure a huge selection of her fans are teens. Plus she definitely has those fans who always think their fave is awesome no matter what age they are. Also I think not every song needs a climax either. But this one just teases it IMO.
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Post by rocket32 on Jul 24, 2019 5:36:11 GMT
I'm really not getting the fans on Instagram losing their shit over it, calling it her best song, a "masterpiece" (far from it), saying they're crying over it... ok it's an emotional track about how she realizes her tendencies in relationships and how she's trying to save it and stop herself from ruining it. How all her enemies started off as friends. There's definitely some meaningful and vulnerable stuff she's talking about here, but I don't get people crying over it. Ronan was a tearjerker, not this. Tbh I really despise those kind of fans that just love everything she does, how every song she puts out is ThE bEsT sOnG eVaaaRRR. They hype everything up because it's new. Then when the next thing comes out, THAT'S the best song. So it's not even like they genuinely like the song, they only like it because it's new and that fucking grinds my gears lol My ranking of the track 5s: All Too Well (come on, nothing is ever going to beat that in terms of her emotional tracks) All You Had to Do Was Stay Dear John Delicate White Horse The Archer Cold As You (sorry, could just never stand this song, this is another one people love for some reason but I always thought it was terribly boring and her voice is too whiny on it) Well that’s Instagram for you. Every artist has those fans that blindly love every single thing the artist does and hype up everything. You’ll always see those people. It’s probably mostly younger fans that think like that and I’m sure someone like Taylor Swift has a ton of those.
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Post by Jinkxx on Jul 24, 2019 9:05:43 GMT
It's a very dreamy song tho.. lyrics are good but I miss the climax a bit. becaue it is so quiet I thought they were building something up. I like it tho, better then ME! and maybe better then YNTCD but not sure, they are so different. I hope the album will satisfy me and as Bogo also said, I usually like the singles less and the other songs more! I hope that's the case here too! So anyone who's gonna buy all those deluxe editions? I've not decided because when you have 1 you want all I guess
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 11:01:12 GMT
One thing I will say is that Taylor Swift's people know how to maximize sales numbers...they will probably release at least 5 editions of the upcoming album and they know that a lot of her fans will want all of them so that will be one fan giving the album five sales...like last time when they had those two magazines that came with the CD...they knew her fans would want both of those magazines and the regular CD so they knew they would sell that album at least three times to many of her fans which of course increases the sales numbers and can affect chart position...and if you consider all of the website bundles that she usually has some people will end up buying it 10 times
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 24, 2019 11:17:55 GMT
It's a very dreamy song tho.. lyrics are good but I miss the climax a bit. becaue it is so quiet I thought they were building something up. I like it tho, better then ME! and maybe better then YNTCD but not sure, they are so different. I hope the album will satisfy me and as Bogo also said, I usually like the singles less and the other songs more! I hope that's the case here too! So anyone who's gonna buy all those deluxe editions? I've not decided because when you have 1 you want all I guess I’m probably only gonna buy 1 edition. Even at only $15 each, to buy all 4 would cost like $60. Plus I don’t want 4 copies of the same album. I think fans in Europe have the option to buy a box set with all of them though. I agree about the sales thing. It doesn’t sound as impressive that she’s sold over a million copies in one week unlike a lot of artists when you factor in all the deluxe editions they put out, while most of those other artists just have 1 or maybe only 2 tops. 1989 was similar, not only with the Target deluxe, but there were also 13 sets of Polaroid photos to collect.
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Post by Jinkxx on Jul 24, 2019 11:26:24 GMT
It's a very dreamy song tho.. lyrics are good but I miss the climax a bit. becaue it is so quiet I thought they were building something up. I like it tho, better then ME! and maybe better then YNTCD but not sure, they are so different. I hope the album will satisfy me and as Bogo also said, I usually like the singles less and the other songs more! I hope that's the case here too! So anyone who's gonna buy all those deluxe editions? I've not decided because when you have 1 you want all I guess I’m probably only gonna buy 1 edition. Even at only $15 each, to buy all 4 would cost like $60. Plus I don’t want 4 copies of the same album. I think fans in Europe have the option to buy a box set with all of them though. I agree about the sales thing. It doesn’t sound as impressive that she’s sold over a million copies in one week unlike a lot of artists when you factor in all the deluxe editions they put out, while most of those other artists just have 1 or maybe only 2 tops. 1989 was similar, not only with the Target deluxe, but there were also 13 sets of Polaroid photos to collect. Do you really think that? As a box? I have doubts about that but just as you said, it will cost a lot of money to buy them all 4. In a digital store here in Holland each deluxe edition with her journals will cost 30,99 Euro's, wich mean a $34,55 Dollars.... expensive... especially if you count them all 4 it will be: a 123,96 Euro's / $128,20 Dollars damn.. And the normal deluxe is 49,99 Euro's / $55,73 DollarsJust the cd without everything is 19,99 Euro's / $22,28 Dollars
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Post by katy on Jul 24, 2019 12:28:23 GMT
I really like it. Agree it sounds like it’s building up to something but I’m kinda glad it doesn’t, it’s more unexpected. Given the abrupt end though I’d hope it’s going to lead nicely into track 6.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 24, 2019 13:51:54 GMT
I’m probably only gonna buy 1 edition. Even at only $15 each, to buy all 4 would cost like $60. Plus I don’t want 4 copies of the same album. I think fans in Europe have the option to buy a box set with all of them though. I agree about the sales thing. It doesn’t sound as impressive that she’s sold over a million copies in one week unlike a lot of artists when you factor in all the deluxe editions they put out, while most of those other artists just have 1 or maybe only 2 tops. 1989 was similar, not only with the Target deluxe, but there were also 13 sets of Polaroid photos to collect. Do you really think that? As a box? I have doubts about that but just as you said, it will cost a lot of money to buy them all 4. In a digital store here in Holland each deluxe edition with her journals will cost 30,99 Euro's, wich mean a $34,55 Dollars.... expensive... especially if you count them all 4 it will be: a 123,96 Euro's / $128,20 Dollars damn.. And the normal deluxe is 49,99 Euro's / $55,73 DollarsJust the cd without everything is 19,99 Euro's / $22,28 DollarsI know I saw it somewhere on IG. It won’t show on her website for me because I’m in the US.
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Post by Dillon on Jul 24, 2019 20:24:10 GMT
This doesn’t pair perfectly, mostly because of how the vocals were recorded, but this is proof that the song suffers from a poor backing track. It has more potential.
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Post by katy on Jul 24, 2019 21:47:03 GMT
Eh I prefer it how it is. More minimal and almost haunting. Actually really impressed with this, I like Me and YNTCD but they didn’t really make me want to listen to the album, this does.
Lyrics are fab - very self-aware (finally, lol)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 1:59:48 GMT
The Archer is the name of a dive bar in East London. Remember “Delicate?”
I think the song ends suddenly on purpose. Just like an arrow does when it strikes a bullseye 🎯.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jul 27, 2019 16:55:06 GMT
I stumbled across this random video and I thought it was really interesting:
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 8:29:46 GMT
I stumbled across this random video and I thought it was really interesting: I did finally decide to watch this video and I was pleasantly surprised...I expected her to pick Taylor but instead she gave them a tie...and almost everyone in the comments of the video picked Avril...I was starting to think maybe I was wrong about her being a good singer but that vocal coach thinks she is a good singer and so do the people in the comment section so now I know I am not the only one who thinks that and I am not wrong...great video and I am really glad that I decided to watch it after all
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2019 14:26:40 GMT
You need to get validation from random video comments on YouTube? That’s kinda sad.
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