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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 15, 2017 21:45:49 GMT
Bogo: so what was the real reason for Dalton and Danielleβs delay? Dalton recorded his album twice. Literally. He recorded one set of songs but the management didnβt think he had it. He started over from scratch. Danielle wrote over 80 songs for her album over the course of 4 years. It was a matter of choosing the right ones, as well as thinking about what she wanted to say in songs and they recorded several versions of the same songs because the sound or production style wasnβt what they wanted. That very well could be whatβs happening with Avril. She may have had a batch of songs ready but in the end itβs not what she or the label wants. They could have re-recorded some tracks with different production styles. They could have re-written sections of the songs she wrote from 2-3 years ago. Plus writing new ones.
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 15, 2017 22:15:46 GMT
But there's a difference between posting a photo of working in the studio (which seems to be recording vocals for like 3 or 4 months now ) and posting 5 videos of parting at house with friends. So on the one hand she doesn't want to be more open about the recording process, on the other she posts weird videos of herself. By weird I mean 4-6 videos of having a pool party or an early Halloween fun. It's all nice to see her having fun, I don't mind that but the amount of that kind of content comparing to the real info on the album makes lots of fans thinking her priorities are parties, and work comes second. I think everyone's allowed to have a little bit of fun, she can't stay lock up in the studio 24/seven I think we all know how privet she is... beside, as some have said before, if she posts pics of her in the studio there are people complaining "it's always the same picture! we want to hear something! she must have taken this pic long ago and posted it again! etc.", if she enjoys life a little, there are people commenting "go back in the studio! etc.". People are never satisfied!!! Tbh I'm really happy to see that she's able to enjoy life again at its fullest, that means she's recovered really well
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 22:56:12 GMT
Bogo: so what was the real reason for Dalton and Danielleβs delay? Dalton recorded his album twice. Literally. He recorded one set of songs but the management didnβt think he had it. He started over from scratch. Danielle wrote over 80 songs for her album over the course of 4 years. It was a matter of choosing the right ones, as well as thinking about what she wanted to say in songs and they recorded several versions of the same songs because the sound or production style wasnβt what they wanted. That very well could be whatβs happening with Avril. She may have had a batch of songs ready but in the end itβs not what she or the label wants. They could have re-recorded some tracks with different production styles. They could have re-written sections of the songs she wrote from 2-3 years ago. Plus writing new ones. I think you nailed it. Itβs like we discussed awhile back how different TINS sounded with tweaks in the production. We all need to chill for Christ-sakes and let her work (and like you said, be glad she wants to!).
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Post by shuhan on Oct 16, 2017 0:08:40 GMT
Discussing and arguing won't change anything, it won't make anything faster.... no point really I'm done and over expecting news regarding the album/single release, now I'm just patiently waiting for whenever that will be
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Post by Jack on Oct 16, 2017 1:10:22 GMT
Yes, discussing and arguing might not change anything, but complaints and disappointments are completely justified. She promised an album for 2017 and she didn't deliver, and then she posted that "before you know it" post that was nice, but not enough in my opinion. I hope she gives a proper explanation in the future, but I doubt she'll do it. At this point, I won't try to repeat myself any further, but I will say this: I hope the album is worth the wait, not here for another mediocre album and era like AL was; and I hope she didn't change the concept she had for this album AGAIN...
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Post by Soraη©Ί on Oct 16, 2017 1:51:01 GMT
I'll be lying to myself if I say I'm not disappointed. I'll just wait patiently without expecting too much, I'm sure we'll all be glad when she released a new song and forget disappointments. Let's just enjoy another bunch of pages of discussion.
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Post by jant017 on Oct 16, 2017 4:11:08 GMT
You've clearly missunderstood the point. The reason for distrusting her is BECAUSE of lack of updates/false announcements. If she had havr communicated delay with us, then there wouldnt be this huge question mark over her credibility. I'm not even sayig the release date announcement needs to come from her. Stop playing devils advocate when the truth of the mater is pretty unrefutable. That's the point, she never said there's been a delay for the album nor her team or label has... so why do you guys keep on thinking there's been a delay? Maybe her deadline is in November, or BMG is still figuring out when to schedule her with all the artists they support, we really don't know that... I agree with BogoGog24 I've got many things going on in my life, AL6 is the last of my problems, so when it comes it comes for me Are you joking? Babes, BMG Italy confirmed 2018 aka confirmed the delay.
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Post by Red on Oct 16, 2017 5:42:11 GMT
So I think I haven't expressed my opinion about the record being supposedly delayed. I think my mind still thinks that the album is coming out this year, I haven't convinced myself that it is not. But still, when I think about the album coming out next year it really doesn't bother me anymore, there's nothing I can do but wait.
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Post by katy on Oct 16, 2017 7:15:10 GMT
I wish people would stop talking about how private she apparently is to excuse not communicating. she's got no issue telling the world about her sex life and selling her wedding photos to magazines when she fancies a bit of publicity lol.
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 16, 2017 7:17:54 GMT
Are you joking? Babes, BMG Italy confirmed 2018 aka confirmed the delay. If there were a delay, as you keep on saying, it means that the album was supposed to be released on a certain date but it was pushed back to work on it again... so there is no delay for me Confirming the album is going to be released in 2018 doesn't mean delay, it's just a confirmation
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Post by Crush ΛΚβ‘ΙΛ on Oct 16, 2017 7:31:45 GMT
I don't remember the exact comparison conversation about T Swift here a while ago, but today I looked her up on Line (a chatting app popular in Korea) and she has an account there. If you add her, you get to hear a pre-recorded message, and gets news/updates whenever you message her. Her marketing team has really taken the extra steps to popularize her brand and image. I was so surprised.
Even if Avril's album will be released in early 2018, I'm nervous that her team hasn't really done anything to promote her work. They've been silent, and while I'm hoping this won't have a major impact, it certainly isn't helping her. When her album was announced, she began trending on twitter and appeared in various online articles. I can only imagine what marketing and promoting could do for her. It's been a really long time now, so her team should definitely ensure it's not a quiet or forgotten (by the general public) release.
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Post by Sarah93 on Oct 16, 2017 8:02:40 GMT
I don't remember the exact comparison conversation about T Swift here a while ago, but today I looked her up on Line (a chatting app popular in Korea) and she has an account there. If you add her, you get to hear a pre-recorded message, and gets news/updates whenever you message her. Her marketing team has really taken the extra steps to popularize her brand and image. I was so surprised. Even if Avril's album will be released in early 2018, I'm nervous that her team hasn't really done anything to promote her work. They've been silent, and while I'm hoping this won't have a major impact, it certainly isn't helping her. When her album was announced, she began trending on twitter and appeared in various online articles. I can only imagine what marketing and promoting could do for her. It's been a really long time now, so her team should definitely ensure it's not a quiet or forgotten (by the general public) release. The album isn't out yet, so... what should they promote? I think they'll do a good job, whenever she had announced something or was out and about in LA, media covered her pretty well... beside, it's a brand new team, it's not the same as AL's one... we'll see
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Post by vancityblackstar on Oct 16, 2017 8:07:06 GMT
Im riding her wave No irritance here.
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Post by jant017 on Oct 16, 2017 8:09:43 GMT
Are you joking? Babes, BMG Italy confirmed 2018 aka confirmed the delay. If there were a delay, as you keep on saying, it means that the album was supposed to be released on a certain date but it was pushed back to work on it again... so there is no delay for me Confirming the album is going to be released in 2018 doesn't mean delay, it's just a confirmation When Avril said in a post it would be 2017 and now 2018 = there's your delay. Can I make it anymore obvious? (avril pun intended). Anyway, sick of going back and forth with people here. Let's move on please
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Post by Crush ΛΚβ‘ΙΛ on Oct 16, 2017 8:18:42 GMT
I don't remember the exact comparison conversation about T Swift here a while ago, but today I looked her up on Line (a chatting app popular in Korea) and she has an account there. If you add her, you get to hear a pre-recorded message, and gets news/updates whenever you message her. Her marketing team has really taken the extra steps to popularize her brand and image. I was so surprised. Even if Avril's album will be released in early 2018, I'm nervous that her team hasn't really done anything to promote her work. They've been silent, and while I'm hoping this won't have a major impact, it certainly isn't helping her. When her album was announced, she began trending on twitter and appeared in various online articles. I can only imagine what marketing and promoting could do for her. It's been a really long time now, so her team should definitely ensure it's not a quiet or forgotten (by the general public) release. The album isn't out yet, so... what should they promote? I think they'll do a good job, whenever she had announced something or was out and about in LA, media covered her pretty well... beside, it's a brand new team, it's not the same as AL's one... we'll see Her album that she's worked on, yet to be released. There isn't really any hype or marketing of its upcoming release. Teams usually start many months in advance, and it's how a lot more people find out about it. I know the media will be decent lol what I meant is I wonder how things could be even better with the right marketing strategy. Yeah, hopefully the new team will be good but I mean I've heard nothing so far.
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