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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 14, 2018 7:52:33 GMT
Perhaps, Avril just launches her own label, will solve all the pointless waiting and rework. You don't let things go bad just because you protect your own vision. You work in the company, and they have a vision. The boss creates the vision. If you choose to work with them, you are embracing their thoughts and culture, as well as the boss. What Avril actually think is the team must work for your intuition. At the end of the day, company launches for money. It's completely understandable that they rather believe logic then feeling, especially BMG is a new label. How many times we have seen disagreements ? Album 4, 5. Today we have 6. That is not a trouble anymore but turns into an issue. Avril needs to find a solution and balance ~ Creating your own label company is not easy, and it takes a lot of time, beside she's got fans all over the world and being independent isn't easy to organize everything... having a label makes those things easier It's not always true that you have to go with your boss' vision.... remember that Avril is who she is now, Let go is what it is now, because Avril went against LA Reid/Arista's first vision, she scrapped it and went to LA to work on her own unique sound and image, it's really rare (almost impossible) that a young new artist is given so much freedom I guess she's used to her freedom in creativity and takes her time Just be patient and it'll all be worth it
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Post by katy on Jan 14, 2018 8:59:15 GMT
I know people keep saying she doesn’t need to communicate until she has solid info, but she needs to say something now.
We were told the album would be out last year - lie. We were told they were wrapping in November - lie. She’s just deleted the FB live and acted like she never said it. I’m bored of studio pics and I’m bored of her being shit at communicating and excuses being made for it. If she’s still writing for this album (though we’ll never know cos she wouldn’t think to communicate with a fan base who have been exceptionally patient over 3 delayed albums now) then my patience really is thinning.
We waited a long time for GL and AL and I don’t think either of those are anywhere near her best work so “the longer we wait the better it’ll be” or whatever doesn’t cut it
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Post by rulezz on Jan 14, 2018 9:04:56 GMT
We waited a long time for GL and AL and I don’t think either of those are anywhere near her best work so “the longer we wait the better it’ll be” or whatever doesn’t cut it Agree with this 💯 %
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Post by Erik on Jan 14, 2018 9:09:31 GMT
I know people keep saying she doesn’t neee to communicate until she has solid info, but she needs to say something now. We were told the album would be out last year - lie. We were told they were wrapping in November - lie. She’s just deleted the FB live and acted like she never said it. I’m bored of studio pics and I’m bored of her being shit at communicating and excuses being made for it. If she’s still writing for this album (though we’ll never know cos she wouldn’t think to communicate with a fan base who have been exceptionally patient over 3 delayed albums now) then my patience really is thinning. We waited a long time for GL and AL and I don’t think either of those are anywhere near her best work so “the longer we wait the better it’ll be” or whatever doesn’t cut it I agree. Her recent posts about her being in the studio is confusing. Is she still recording or whatever, at least she should release a statement like she did back then in september 2017, like she is thankful for our patience and the album will be here really soon, but she has to make it perfect blablabla, but something. Because she cant just erase what she AND JEN (BECAUSE SHE WAS ALMOST THERE WITH AVRIL!!!!!!!!) said about the album. Tho I'm not that desperate now, but it still ugs me, that we dont even know what is going on for sure. Did they wrapped it? Did not? Is she still recording? Can we at least expect it this year??? I also dont know how her manager Jen is so irresponsible about her job. Isnt her job to supervise everything that is happening with the album and around her new Artist, Delayril Lavigne? If not Avril but Jen should said something. Or she should just tell Avril "WTF girl"!!! Isnt Delayril has a deadline or something? Or she will just sit on this album and gonna write it all over again and again like a never ending loop? And also, she was clearly drinking last night, so dont come for me with her illnes anymore. Even Selena Gomez has lupus, had a kidney trasnplant, and still release at least singles nowdays. I can be patient, if I know there is actually something to wait for.
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Post by NoName on Jan 14, 2018 9:59:28 GMT
Why can she never explain what’s going on? Why is she always so silent with us?
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Post by Erik on Jan 14, 2018 10:41:26 GMT
I literally thinking to write a message to BMG via e-mail, Facebook, and all platform. They should know what is going us with us,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2018 12:15:32 GMT
Friends, focus on something else and don't obsess, don't interpret in a catastrophic way whatever Avril does and take care of other things. We're all very impatient and frustrated and it's so nice to speculate and fantasize together, follow progress etc, but we should try to live the waiting in the best way without poisoning each other or moving unfounded accusations to Avril without really knowing the situation... I think so, but it's ok to let off steam within certain limits and I don't judge those who behave and fell differently
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Post by kyris89 on Jan 14, 2018 12:25:47 GMT
If you think about it, there is no way Avril is doing that to us on purpose. Something must be going on. And let's not forget that she belongs to a label, so any action (for example when they deleted the live facebook thing) is probably not her choice. But we, as usual, are furious to the artist. She's just a pawn in the industry, in her record company, so we need to give her a break. Be mad, yes, but not with Avril. I'm pretty sure she's doing her best. Be mad at her manager, her record label or something. At the end, if BMG wanted badly the album out in 2017 and Avril was fooling around, I'm pretty sure they would just drop her or something because they pay for the studio time (i think) and not listening to them in general. And I'm sure Avril also feels bad because she keeps giving us promises that she can't fulfilled because they just don't let her. So, something else is going on, and I repeat, let's all be mad, but not with Avril. Just think that under Avril and her album, are standing a bunch of people who make decisions.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 14, 2018 12:48:22 GMT
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Post by Erik on Jan 14, 2018 13:12:50 GMT
If you think about it, there is no way Avril is doing that to us on purpose. Something must be going on. And let's not forget that she belongs to a label, so any action (for example when they deleted the live facebook thing) is probably not her choice. But we, as usual, are furious to the artist. She's just a pawn in the industry, in her record company, so we need to give her a break. Be mad, yes, but not with Avril. I'm pretty sure she's doing her best. Be mad at her manager, her record label or something. At the end, if BMG wanted badly the album out in 2017 and Avril was fooling around, I'm pretty sure they would just drop her or something because they pay for the studio time (i think) and not listening to them in general. And I'm sure Avril also feels bad because she keeps giving us promises that she can't fulfilled because they just don't let her. So, something else is going on, and I repeat, let's all be mad, but not with Avril. Just think that under Avril and her album, are standing a bunch of people who make decisions. As I mentioned before, I'm really mad at Jen, her manager. She doesn't seem to do anything at all!!!!! She should be supervising all of the things what is going on with the album, but for me, she does nothing. Like at all.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 14, 2018 13:37:48 GMT
We have no idea what her manager does. You can’t just say she doesn’t do anything just because we don’t see what she does.
I feel bad for Avril because any time she does say something, fans still bitch at her in the comments and I can understand why she stays silent. She’s damned if she does and damned if she doesn’t. If she says anything, it’s usually a vague statement saying “soon” and fans complain about waiting longer and that the statement isn’t specific enough. Her statements also don’t mean anything anymore if she has been saying soon for 2 years. Every time she says she’s going to be done, another delay happens. There’s little point in her saying anything right now when it will probably change.
There’s a lot of artists who honestly don’t communicate much with their fans when delays are happening. Dalton had said his album would be out in late 2016, then it was Jan/Feb 2017, then nothing until September 2017. He never explained why the album was delayed and never said “Sorry guys, not this month.” Or “It’s taking longer than I expected.” Only when I saw him at a show in March 2017 and got to ask him in person about it did he finally talk about what was going on. And even as an independent artist with no label, he still had to have songs approved by his management. He did not get 100% control over it so you can imagine what kinds of red tape Avril has to deal with.
Danielle Bradbery has a similar situation, she kept saying soon about her new album for literally years. She even said originally it was going to be an EP released in September 2016. The interview where she said that was pulled immediately when that idea fell through. She never said what was taking so long to finish the album, on Twitter she just kept saying soon. Only at some kind of event with a Q&A did she finally discuss why it was taking so long, and a fan was able to record it and share it. So it wasn’t even anything that was nationally broadcast where everyone could see it. Finally in August she announced her album for December 2017. Like Avril, she wanted to get the right mix of songs and she kept writing a lot.
Ideally she should let us know what is happening, if she’s still writing or recording or what, because we’ve been told numerous times soon and production is wrapping. It’s confusing where she’s at right now. But I honestly think he IG stories are the most of an explanation we can hope for. I’d rather her say nothing at all until everything is truly finished and they have a single with a release date. Because anything she says these days ends up meaning nothing and what’s really the point in that?
By the way, I can’t help but expess my utter disgust at so-called “fans” writing death threats to her on her own fansite. That post should be edited or removed entirely IMO and it goes WAY over the line of what is acceptable. A fan would never write something like that especially wishing death on a woman who almost died of a serious disease. That’s truly disgusting and no matter how frustrating the album situation may be, nothing warrants fans wishing death on her. People like that and comments like that are one of the many reasons why Avril probably stays silent.
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Post by rafarinha on Jan 14, 2018 14:05:02 GMT
She posted a piano photo on her insta story. Is she still writing? Or just practicing? Who knows. Avril favorite lies 2k18 "The album is gonna wrap this month" (Nov 2017)
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Post by Erik on Jan 14, 2018 14:44:30 GMT
She posted a piano photo on her insta story. Is she still writing? Or just practicing? Who knows. Avril favorite lies 2k18 "The album is gonna wrap this month" (Nov 2017)
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Post by firdaus92 on Jan 14, 2018 14:56:55 GMT
It's easy to blame people. Do we really know what's happening? I don't think so. Relax, don't think too much about AL6 and enjoy your life with something else. 😉
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Post by thyarchery on Jan 14, 2018 15:06:53 GMT
So yea, what would you pick if it were up to you? Edit: You can post whatever you can imagine.. not only Black&White, Warrior etc. You can if you want that to be the title though I'm sorry, ⋆niki⋆ , I usually agree with you but I stan for "Soon" (and a deluxe version, "Extremely soon") . Only half joking about this one. I think it would be a nice thing that she acknowledged our patience and sort of played a lighthearted joke with the title- same as with The Best Damn Thing.
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