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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 19, 2018 18:19:43 GMT
Our mothers always say "don't say anything at all if you don't have anything smart to say". And Avril obviously doesn't get this. She just keeps on repeating the same old and tired phrases and throwing those "soons" and "sooner than you know" without knowing their meaning. Until she gets her sh*t together she will be a LIAR in my eyes. It's not even about the soons anymore, it's just generally how little knowledge she has when it comes to HER fans. I can wait for her for another year, I think most of us here can, but stop LYING to your fans about "soon", "patience" and how it's gonna be "worth the wait". We will see if the album was worth the wait when it gets released. Until then she should lock her phone in the bottom drawer and focus on recording songs instead of looking from which angle she will take the microphone pic this time.
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Post by kyris89 on Jan 19, 2018 19:45:59 GMT
Maybe the truth is somewhere in the middle. Yes, we can't blame Avril for all this situation, we have no idea what is happening in the background. But on the other hand, it's not the first time that something similar happens. Maybe something's wrong with her when it comes to working with other people, maybe she's hard to collaborate with, maybe she simply makes bad choices on who to work with. We don't know and never will. I feel bad when people talk using bad words for her or criticizing her and blaming her for everything that happens. Maybe they are right, maybe they are not. Who knows
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Post by Anna on Jan 19, 2018 19:46:55 GMT
Recently we've been talking about labels which might be releasing Avrils music in countries where BMG isn't present itself. I've learned in Poland they are being represented by Warner Music.
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 19, 2018 19:48:45 GMT
I'm sure she has tracks ready since back in June. I think they need to really hurry up because the sound could be dated. What if the sound has influences of today's music but it is continuously changing, I'm afraid that this could happen to AL6 with music dated, it won't chart. IMO
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Post by Anna on Jan 19, 2018 19:55:45 GMT
I'm sure she has tracks ready since back in June. I think they need to really hurry up because the sound could be dated. What if the sound has influences of today's music but it is continuously changing, I'm afraid that this could happen to AL6 with music dated, it won't chart. IMO Her idea for country influenced music, whatever she meant by that, has already dated. Kesha, Miley did that. Justin is doing that in a very interesting way, Kylie is also going this way... Sorry Avril. Your idea might have been awesome but people were able to do it faster than you.
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Post by Sarah93 on Jan 19, 2018 20:01:48 GMT
Our mothers always say "don't say anything at all if you don't have anything smart to say". And Avril obviously doesn't get this. She just keeps on repeating the same old and tired phrases and throwing those "soons" and "sooner than you know" without knowing their meaning. Until she gets her sh*t together she will be a LIAR in my eyes. It's not even about the soons anymore, it's just generally how little knowledge she has when it comes to HER fans. I can wait for her for another year, I think most of us here can, but stop LYING to your fans about "soon", "patience" and how it's gonna be "worth the wait". We will see if the album was worth the wait when it gets released. Until then she should lock her phone in the bottom drawer and focus on recording songs instead of looking from which angle she will take the microphone pic this time. So basically, according to you, she should just be silent? Tbh I'd never want to be in her position, 'cause whatever she says or doesn't say, she's always criticized... there are always going to be fans that are going to be unhappy or disappointed. I don't think she said that "soons" to anger us, what else should she have said? " I literally don't know guys, maybe 2/3 months more" and after that time she'd still say the same? I think "soons" were actually the best thing to say in that case... even if it didn't mean it, it was still an answer without looking stupid for not keeping what she had said previously and having to repeat it again and again imo
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 20:28:12 GMT
Sorry, but I think the amount of โsoonโ really makes it all looks stupid.
Also some replies of Mike Heller on Twitter, of course here we canโt blame Avril at all, but the way he said the single was coming like last March(?) and he probably said that without knowing at all
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 19, 2018 20:30:54 GMT
Our mothers always say "don't say anything at all if you don't have anything smart to say". And Avril obviously doesn't get this. She just keeps on repeating the same old and tired phrases and throwing those "soons" and "sooner than you know" without knowing their meaning. Until she gets her sh*t together she will be a LIAR in my eyes. It's not even about the soons anymore, it's just generally how little knowledge she has when it comes to HER fans. I can wait for her for another year, I think most of us here can, but stop LYING to your fans about "soon", "patience" and how it's gonna be "worth the wait". We will see if the album was worth the wait when it gets released. Until then she should lock her phone in the bottom drawer and focus on recording songs instead of looking from which angle she will take the microphone pic this time. So basically, according to you, she should just be silent? Tbh I'd never want to be in her position, 'cause whatever she says or doesn't say, she's always criticized... there are always going to be fans that are going to be unhappy or disappointed. I don't think she said that "soons" to anger us, what else should she have said? " I literally don't know guys, maybe 2/3 months more" and after that time she'd still say the same? I think "soons" were actually the best thing to say in that case... even if it didn't mean it, it was still an answer without looking stupid for not keeping what she had said previously and having to repeat it again and again imo "According to me", she should just say the truth. If she's still recording - she's still recording, if she doesn't know when - she doesn't know when, soon IS NOT two years later. By saying soon a year ago it already looks stupid. Don't y'all get tired of constantly repeating the "some fans will never be happy no matter if she says something or not" narrative? We've come to a point where most of the fanbase isn't happy just because Avril is indecisive and doesn't really know how to handle the whole situation with what to say and what not to say. In my country we would say "she doesn't know if she wants to pee or take a shit". I said it in a previous post, if she can't communicate with fans because she can't talk about the album, that's fine. Keep it that way. At the end of the day we are not her and after trying (by getting multiple trending topic and begging for information) we clearly can't influence her. She will do the same, tomorrow, a month from and in 10 years.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 19, 2018 20:33:05 GMT
Sorry, but I think the amount of โsoonโ really makes it all looks stupid. Also Dome replied of Mike Heller on Twitter, of course here we canโt blame Avril at all, but the way he said the single was coming like last March(?) and he probably he said that without knowing at all They're saying soon in hopes that fans won't ask anymore if they replay once. It's clearly not working. soon in our case means "please don't ask me again" and not "in a few days/weeks/months".
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 20:38:34 GMT
Thatโs really really frustrating. Itโs ridiculous, cause here he was confirming weโd find out the cover of the single and its date โvery soonโ so yeah
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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 20:47:44 GMT
It is really frustrating but if she doesn't seem to even pay attention to comments on her social media I doubt she's going to know people are angry on here haha.
We don't know if she's deliberately not telling us things or if she can't. She might be upset with the situation, who knows. And if she just doesn't care, will we ever know?
She might be so busy in the studio, meetings, photo shoots, who knows. How many times have you been at work/school/uni and the days have flown by and you've forgotten or not even thought about things you were meaning to do?
Yes, she could be better. Yes, other artists are much better at communicating. But most musicians I follow have less updates on social media than Avril haha, and I don't see those fans angry/kicking off. I guess it's just what you're used to. *shrugs*
It's disappointing and frustrating and no it's not great, but is it really worth being angry over? I mean Rammstein haven't released an album since 2009, feel sorry for us waiting for new music haha (which they said should come out in autumn last year).
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 20:53:48 GMT
In my opinion itโs more than ridiculous to say/act as if Avril is doing on purpose. How sick in her head she would be?! Back in 2016 posting a video talking about a present for the fans during Christmas, then a video announcing the new label and the album in 2017 just so 2018 would arrive without anything and she could laugh of us waiting for that long?! Of course she never said โsoonโ on purpose knowing it would take longer, people assuming that are acting stupidly (sorry). The problem is, after a whole year of waiting, after 2017 being over she totally should notice, her label should notice, that the fans are disappointed and wanting (please finally) concrete news. Maybe other artists communicate less, but maybe they also give more concrete info when they do (donโt know I canโt say for sure)
And well, about Rammestein, I guess, at least they are doing shows right?!
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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 21:00:33 GMT
In my opinion itโs more than ridiculous to say/act as if Avril is doing on purpose. How sick in her head she would be?! Back in 2016 posting a video talking about a present for the fans during Christmas, then a video announcing the new label and the album in 2017 just so 2018 would arrive without anything and she could laugh of us waiting for that long?! Of course she never said โsoonโ on purpose knowing it would take longer, people assuming that are acting stupidly (sorry). The problem is, after a whole year of waiting, after 2017 being over she totally should notice, her label should notice, that the fans are disappointed and wanting (please finally) concrete news. Maybe other artists communicate less, but maybe they also give more concrete info when they do (donโt know I canโt say for sure) And well, about Rammestein, I guess, at least they are doing shows right?! They were Hopefully back in the studio now. I think the reason why she's not saying anything is because a) no concrete news and b) she might be hoping and thinking things will be finished soon. She's probably having set backs she didn't see or want. I doubt she's happy about the situation. It's life, shit gets in the way. It's no different for celebrities.
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 21:03:24 GMT
In my opinion itโs more than ridiculous to say/act as if Avril is doing on purpose. How sick in her head she would be?! Back in 2016 posting a video talking about a present for the fans during Christmas, then a video announcing the new label and the album in 2017 just so 2018 would arrive without anything and she could laugh of us waiting for that long?! Of course she never said โsoonโ on purpose knowing it would take longer, people assuming that are acting stupidly (sorry). The problem is, after a whole year of waiting, after 2017 being over she totally should notice, her label should notice, that the fans are disappointed and wanting (please finally) concrete news. Maybe other artists communicate less, but maybe they also give more concrete info when they do (donโt know I canโt say for sure) And well, about Rammestein, I guess, at least they are doing shows right?! They were Hopefully back in the studio now. I think the reason why she's not saying anything is because a) no concrete news and b) she might be hoping and thinking things will be finished soon. She's probably having set backs she didn't see or want. I doubt she's happy about the situation. It's life, shit gets in the way. It's no different for celebrities.ย Yeah I believe sheโs sad with the situation as well, but she should think about being more clear with the fans. Or well, if she canโt or if she doesnโt want to deal with that now, her team should.
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 19, 2018 21:10:36 GMT
Last time she wrote a message for us in september it was because she posted some stories making the .l. thing haha and fans were tweeting to Gabe to complaint about how rude her and him are with the fans, and the result was that message 'before you know it'. That makes me thing she doesn't know many fans are mad of this situation but in september Gabe told her and then she posted that message
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