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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 21:12:50 GMT
They were Hopefully back in the studio now. I think the reason why she's not saying anything is because a) no concrete news and b) she might be hoping and thinking things will be finished soon. She's probably having set backs she didn't see or want. I doubt she's happy about the situation. It's life, shit gets in the way. It's no different for celebrities. Yeah I believe sheβs sad with the situation as well, but she should think about about being more clear with the fans. Or well, if she canβt or if she doesnβt want to deal with that now, her team should. Oh yeah I agree with you, she definitely should be better at communicating. But she isn't, the album has delays yet again, we don't know what's going on. It's crap but I just don't see it as something to be angry over. Either she doesn't care and therefore isn't going to care so unless people aren't going to support her and buy her album it makes no difference complaining, or she is frustrated and upset at the situation also so she's just going to be more upset and frustrated the more people get on at her. I'm not saying people shouldn't express their opinion and be frustrated, I just don't think constantly complaining about her on her fan site she most likely doesn't read is achieving anything. Take a step back, accept it might not be coming soon, and just chat about what you feel like with other people on the site. I'm not upset because I don't have any expectations that it will come soon, and I don't mind. And if I don't like it when it comes out, then I'll not follow the era much (like AL) and check out the next one when it comes out. Avril's music has helped me though some really difficult times and she was my idol as a kid, so I'll support her but if after all this I don't like the album, I'll wait and see if I like the next one. The only way I'll dislike her is if she becomes a bitch.
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 19, 2018 21:13:56 GMT
Soon is her way of saying "I don't know", which is in my opinion stupid. Of course she never said "soon" just to piss her fans off but it did anyway most of the time. According to the fact that she still had to record Warrior in November, my assumption is that the album never had an estimated release date. So until now she never could have said anything "concrete" as there was no finished product. She thought she would record and release the album by 2018, it didn't happen - ok, no problem. I just can't believe that no one in her team has have any experience with public relations.
Rammasten are not a pop girl, their singles are not anticipated months prior and they don't have an online fanbase who tries to decode every little non-existent hint. They release and album and go on tour.
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Post by Erik on Jan 19, 2018 21:23:04 GMT
I love all of you, but I do agree almost everything what greeneyedsoul mentioned before. If she doesnt have something to say then dont. When she is in silence I feel good. When she post a nonsense photo, I go off. I understanf some of you are okay with this situation, but I do understand people here who dont feel this way.
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 21:23:04 GMT
Yeah I believe sheβs sad with the situation as well, but she should think about about being more clear with the fans. Or well, if she canβt or if she doesnβt want to deal with that now, her team should. Oh yeah I agree with you, she definitely should be better at communicating. But she isn't, the album has delays yet again, we don't know what's going on. It's crap but I just don't see it as something to be angry over. Either she doesn't care and therefore isn't going to care so unless people aren't going to support her and buy her album it makes no difference complaining, or she is frustrated and upset at the situation also so she's just going to be more upset and frustrated the more people get on at her. I'm not saying people shouldn't express their opinion and be frustrated, I just don't think constantly complaining about her on her fan site she most likely doesn't read is achieving anything. Take a step back, accept it might not be coming soon, and just chat about what you feel like with other people on the site. I'm not upset because I don't have any expectations that it will come soon, and I don't mind. And if I don't like it when it comes out, then I'll not follow the era much (like AL) and check out the next one when it comes out. Avril's music has helped me though some really difficult times and she was my idol as a kid, so I'll support her but if after all this I don't like the album, I'll wait and see if I like the next one. The only way I'll dislike her is if she becomes a bitch.Β Thatβs basically how I feel lately. I love Avril, and I follow her since 2003. I live in Brazil and I was never rich, I had access to Internet really late and still I followed her as much as I could since then. Iβm 26 now, and honestly she never disappointed me (completely). In 2007 I didnβt like the whole era basically, and I still kept following her so that to me was my own proof that Iβd be a fan forever, thatβs personal! I think about concept AL5 is a mess, production probably as well (Iβm not an expert so yeah I donβt talk about what I donβt know well) but I still like the album a lot, I love many songs and to me Falling Fast is one of her best songs. Also I had the opportunity to see her live 5 more times during the AL5 era, sΓ³ it still holds a good place in my heart. At some moments last year I was freaking out waiting and wanting new music and the new album. Now Iβm only disappointed with the lack of communication, and I think itβs kinda tragically funny seeing her posts in studio yet. Iβm thinking to myself that the album/Single will come from June on, so Iβm prepared when we donβt have anything in the first half of the year. And if we do get something, then will be a good surprise. After that then I can think and analyze well what the next era will mean to me
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 19, 2018 21:23:20 GMT
I think she needs to say something like in a insta story to avoid many media attention.
Like: ok guys, I still have so much work to do, I'm not ready to released anything, I know I said soon before but putting all these things together is not easy, please wait some weeks/months more (or it will be around the second half of the year) I'm sure it will worth the wait. Enjoy my old music and other artists. Here is a playlist of music that is inspiring me right now or here you have 2 old new tracks for free, enjoy it while you wait for my new album. And say you will have many tracks to listen when my album comes out not only 13 tracks. something that can calm down people .
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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 21:29:04 GMT
Soon is her way of saying "I don't know", which is in my opinion stupid. Of course she never said "soon" just to piss her fans off but it did anyway most of the time. According to the fact that she still had to record Warrior in November, my assumption is that the album never had an estimated release date. So until now she never could have said anything "concrete" as there was no finished product. She thought she would record and release the album by 2018, it didn't happen - ok, no problem. I just can't believe that no one in her team has have any experience with public relations. Rammasten are not a pop girl, their singles are not anticipated months prior and they don't have an online fanbase who tries to decode every little non-existent hint. They release and album and go on tour. So then what could she have said? She might have thought it would be soon then changed her mind on something and thought that would be soon. I don't know what she could have done right at this point haha. My opinion is just that I'm a fan, so I'll wait and follow. I don't see this as her messing us around, so I'm not angry. The worse she and her team are with communicating, potentially the worse her album will do - fool her, it's her career she may be worsening. I'd rather she took her time if she's doing what she wants, is happy after going through a lot (or even if she hadn't), and is a good album. If she isn't, well that's life. I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt because I don't think she's shown any signs of deliberately messing us around. No, they're not haha. But they still have other projects they're involved with, they still drop hints, they still have an online fanbase who speculate when things and what will happen. I mean I guess all Muse do is release an album and go on tour, and their fans take apart everything they say. All I'm saying, is that I follow loads of bands and artists who use social media less than Avril and their fans aren't angry. Just because she's in the pop industry we should hold her to different expectations? Surely that's only if you want her to chart. Sure it's happening again and again, there must be a good reason. And if it's Avril, then I guess we've gotta get used to it. *shrugs*
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Post by Anna on Jan 19, 2018 21:30:20 GMT
In fact, openly admitting she needs more time or she isn't ready or something came up and the album is still being recorded would help her to reach more non-fans and get that media coverage she will at some point need than posting random photos from the studio.
Many artists openly admit when they face problems - and it doesn't necessarily mean they have to blame the label/deals/money.
Charli XCX openly said that after demos of her songs for her new album leaked, she isn't ready to release new music aka new longplay because she feels terrible after everything what happened. The Pretty Reckless openly admitted their album was lost due to a hurricane or something else affecting the studio they were working in. And so on and so forth.
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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 21:31:17 GMT
I love all of you, but I do agree almost everything what greeneyedsoul mentioned before. If she doesnt have something to say then dont. When she is in silence I feel good. When she post a nonsense photo, I go off. I understanf some of you are okay with this situation, but I do understand people here who dont feel this way. I get that, but then some fans complain when she doesn't say anything haha. I personally just think it's better to be positive. Let her do her own thing, see where we end up. It's not like we can't talk to each other about other things haha.
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Post by fih on Jan 19, 2018 21:38:37 GMT
I think itβs fine to complain, even βdiscount on Avrilβ all without going a level down, as long as itβs in a forum/in this forum. I mean in the end forums are places of discussions and opinions.
What I donβt agree is with people commenting on her social media, any of them, and being stupid. Calling her names, saying sheβs a liar, and all low things some so called fans do. And itβs not only about Avrilβs fans, itβs happening all around. And people comment on their own language thinking in 2018 people only speak one language or that they donβt have people who can translate, or worse, that isnβt possible to find out online the meaning. Doesnβt matter if the artist isnβt reading all, you just donβt call them names or say bad things. We are all human. And what makes it even worse is that some of those people arenβt even kids or teenagers cause like that we could even use as an excuse. But grown ups act like that, itβs terrible
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Post by Erik on Jan 19, 2018 21:45:04 GMT
I love all of you, but I do agree almost everything what greeneyedsoul mentioned before. If she doesnt have something to say then dont. When she is in silence I feel good. When she post a nonsense photo, I go off. I understanf some of you are okay with this situation, but I do understand people here who dont feel this way. I get that, but then some fans complain when she doesn't say anything haha. I personally just think it's better to be positive. Let her do her own thing, see where we end up. It's not like we can't talk to each other about other things haha. I really try to do that. Honestly, I dont think there were so many fans here who said fuck Avril because she hasnt posted anything lately. Personally I dont mad at her, and I really dont know she is doing it on purpose with us. But I remember that literally everybody was over the moon when she finally did tue facebook live. Everybody was kinda positive and we were happy because we were thinking we got some real info that time. And its painful for me to realize that it was not real. Im also really worried, because the era is a huge mess, and it havent even started yet. I dont know, i cant write down what and how i feel right now, but surely they need to clear this situation. They must know that the fans all over the word are angry and dissapointed, and they need to do something
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Post by Becky on Jan 19, 2018 21:49:56 GMT
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 19, 2018 21:52:32 GMT
Soon is her way of saying "I don't know", which is in my opinion stupid. Of course she never said "soon" just to piss her fans off but it did anyway most of the time. According to the fact that she still had to record Warrior in November, my assumption is that the album never had an estimated release date. So until now she never could have said anything "concrete" as there was no finished product. She thought she would record and release the album by 2018, it didn't happen - ok, no problem. I just can't believe that no one in her team has have any experience with public relations. Rammasten are not a pop girl, their singles are not anticipated months prior and they don't have an online fanbase who tries to decode every little non-existent hint. They release and album and go on tour. So then what could she have said? She might have thought it would be soon then changed her mind on something and thought that would be soon. I don't know what she could have done right at this point haha. My opinion is just that I'm a fan, so I'll wait and follow. I don't see this as her messing us around, so I'm not angry. The worse she and her team are with communicating, potentially the worse her album will do - fool her, it's her career she may be worsening. I'd rather she took her time if she's doing what she wants, is happy after going through a lot (or even if she hadn't), and is a good album. If she isn't, well that's life. I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt because I don't think she's shown any signs of deliberately messing us around. No, they're not haha. But they still have other projects they're involved with, they still drop hints, they still have an online fanbase who speculate when things and what will happen. I mean I guess all Muse do is release an album and go on tour, and their fans take apart everything they say. All I'm saying, is that I follow loads of bands and artists who use social media less than Avril and their fans aren't angry. Just because she's in the pop industry we should hold her to different expectations? Surely that's only if you want her to chart. Sure it's happening again and again, there must be a good reason. And if it's Avril, then I guess we've gotta get used to it. *shrugs* I said in multiple posts what she could have said to make it "acceptable" and to not get the fans excited all for nothing. I even posted what she should have done in the first place for fans to not even expect something from her posts. She maybe didn't want to mess around with the fans, but some fans ended up feeling that way because of her indecision and impulsiveness, what could have avoided by her communicating the right way. I agree, it her life and she can do whatever she likes and we can only point on what could've been done better. Other artists/bands don't post a lot on social media and their fans don't get angry because they know that they won't get anything from their posts unless it's an official statement. They don't post about soons and "it's just for you guys" and that's exactly why their fans don't get disappointed. I said various times, it's not about her lack of communication it's about her communicating the wrong way. But again and again fans are just pushing the "some of you are never satisfied" and "she's not the only silent artist" narrative. *shrugs*
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Post by streckfuz on Jan 19, 2018 21:55:43 GMT
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Post by Erik on Jan 19, 2018 21:56:40 GMT
First of all, OMG. Second, I dont believe it anymore. Third, this is again OMG and also embarassing. I mean he must know that we are bitching. And Avril should have posted this TBH not him.... I wanna be happy that she is wrapping but my soul just scared to believe her again.
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