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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 5:05:03 GMT
Some people are definitely pushing a narrative, especially some frequent posters in this thread are and it's getting pretty annoying. There's frequent posters in this thread who keep consistently complaining and rehashing the same shit over and over again and that is equally annoying. I don't see anyone "pushing a narrative." Some people think Avril is doing this stuff on purpose and that we're suffering some kind of horrible treatment because we don't have a stupid album, some people are trying to be more understanding of her situation and also realize that it's not the biggest or most important issue in the world. It's not "pushing a narrative," it's called being a bit more mature and understanding that shit happens that doesn't necessarily mean it was done by anyone on purpose. I think most of us here agree the communication could be better, no one is saying Avril is perfect or that the situation has been handled perfectly. But some of you are acting pretty immature and childish about the whole thing and making these exaggerated claims that she's doing it on purpose, that she's a liar, and all this stuff. Frankly, I see more complaining, bitching, and moaning here than I see any real discussion. It is literally the same complaints every single damn day when we don't have any news. Like I said, it's become like beating a dead horse at this point. That is not discussion. How many times can you really complain about the same thing over and over again? Yes it's a forum and it's meant for discussion and expression of opinion. That doesn't mean that people don't eventually get tired of seeing the same shit over and over, especially when complaining about it does literally nothing to change anything. Obviously Avril had plans of some kind and she thought she could reasonably release the album in 2017. Like Karen pointed out, maybe she was overly optimistic because she was just excited to be back and making music again. She probably never anticipated people taking every word she said and putting it down on record and expecting she would stick to it or else. She was excited about making music again and she wanted to share that with us. Obviously things happened, her albums always suffer from delays, it's just that with social media it becomes more public when things are obviously delayed. LG took her a whole year to record due to spending 6 more months writing out in LA, she had to rework some songs of UMS because they didn't like some of them, TBDT needed Dr. Luke for hits, and we know about GL and AL. What likely happens is that she writes a draft of what she wants the album to be and shows it to her label. They review it and if they don't think there's anything hit worthy on it, they send her back into the studio with people they believe can create those hits. That's probably why she had to wait so long to wait for the producer she/they wanted. Whatever it is that's causing the delays, it's for good reason. It's not because she's a liar or she wants to make her fans wait or anything else. And hopefully it will be worth the wait. Avril is not the only artist who has had albums experience delays. And when delays are going on, a lot of artists won't necessarily talk much about the details of what's going on behind the scenes. She's already said in the past that she's trying to make it the best it can be, that should be enough of an explanation. People keep saying if only she'd say a timeframe of when we can expect a single, or how much longer we have to wait, or some kind of message from her about why it's taking so long or whatever - I guarantee if she said anything of the kind, fans would just be pissed about still having to wait. If she said "The single will be out in June," there would definitely be fans who would complain they can't wait that long. And I don't really know why people are so hellbent on her saying a timeframe when she has literally given timeframes in the past and they have all been pushed back, so what difference would it make if she said another timeframe? You guys call her a liar, yet you keep wanting information from her, even though every time she says something, it ends up getting pushed back. I am just confused at this point as to what people even want from her. Wanting her to give an update seems honestly pretty pointless to me until the album is truly finished and has a set release date. If we all know we can't really take her at her word, then what is the point in her saying anything if it keeps changing? What is the point in wanting her to say when we can expect a single if we aren't prepared to have to possibly wait several months? I just don't get at all what it is people are wanting or expecting of her anymore. And the thing is, you can complain about how the situation is being handled and say she should do this and that, but at the end of the day, it's not going to happen. It becomes pretty fruitless to keep complaining about something you have zero control over and can't change at all. I mean, I just don't see what that even accomplishes except probably making a semi-annoying situation ten times worse. As I've said before, it's just an album. Some people act like their whole life depends on her releasing this album and are acting super dramatic about it. Just chill. I totally agree!
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Post by kyris89 on Jan 20, 2018 6:53:21 GMT
At the end of the day, when we have an official announcement, everybody is gonna love her again. All of us, even the most negative/angry ones. So all this conversation will be like it never existed
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 20, 2018 9:51:04 GMT
Good morning good (and some annoying) people on Bandaids. Will this be another day without news? hmmm
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Post by vancityblackstar on Jan 20, 2018 10:13:51 GMT
Good morning good (and some annoying) people on Bandaids. Will this be another day without news? hmmm Counting the days not the memories will leave you uneasy
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Post by greeneyedsoul on Jan 20, 2018 11:05:17 GMT
Good morning good (and some annoying) people on Bandaids. Will this be another day without news? hmmm Counting the days not the memories will leave you uneasy The bullshit some of Avril's ass kissing fans left me already uneasy. I think some of you should adapt the fan name Little Dingleberries
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Post by Becky on Jan 20, 2018 11:53:35 GMT
Counting the days not the memories will leave you uneasy The bullshit some of Avril's ass kissing fans left me already uneasy. I think some of you should adapt the fan name Little Dingleberries I've not seen a single person on here kiss Avril's arse haha. Shit happens, and it's gonna keep happening. Wasn't it you who said yesterday that life isn't all happy all the time?
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Post by Erik on Jan 20, 2018 12:18:45 GMT
Guys don't hate each other please. I know I'm one of "those" bandaiders, who is always nagging about why she is not posting and I become dissapointed, and then I always write some negative stuff and blaming her. I don't feel sorry about it, because that is how a I feel. It won't be a problem, if she and her stupid management did not announce something like 3 times and then turned it around every time what they just said. I know it is not on purpose, but hey, damage is done for us, we are getting hyped and then what we receive at the end of the day, nothing. I also know writing here on bandaids won't mak anything change and we won't get the album sooner, but unfortunately I don't have a single person in my friends who likes Avril, and I cannot complain to them, so I'm coming here because I feel one of you may listen my problems, doubts and maybe will agree with me.
When I saw yesterday post by Steve saying "she is wrapping this month" unfortunately I did get happy. I mean it did help to get my hopes up, but honestly, didn't we heard this before? What if something in the end of january will cause another delay for Avril? I have mixed feeling about it, I don't want to get my hopes up, and then become really dissapointed again. And don't get my wrong, I am glad that at least we got a new info about the album, I really wanted this! I really hope this time she will finish up everything what she needs to.
Meanwhile, I also hope her team is started to make the necessary things, like organizing the photoshoot, promo for the single etc. I thin one month sould be enough. I mean Kylie released her single yesterday and her album is coming up in April, so if they releases a single, they still can plan the album promo.
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Post by Becky on Jan 20, 2018 12:41:02 GMT
I don't think anyone is saying not to talk about how you feel - I'm sure every single one of us is disappointed the album isn't out yet. But no need for people to complain and state there isn't any news every day. My issue is when people get pissed off at Avril and each other. There's nothing wrong with discussing the situation and bringing up posts from Avril and people related to her which might be relevant. But when people kick off saying they're done just because everyone thought her next post would be about the album or that there's still no news, it's just tiring really. Some people seem to be constantly upsetting themselves. (Also funny because pretty sure we're all going to listen to the album haha). Or being overly negative i.e. she'll never release another album - I don't think she'd work this long on an album and not release it haha. There's venting your frustration and there's just being annoying and a broken record and negative for the sake of it. When we found out she was in the studio this month, sure it warrants people being annoyed at the situation - we thought she'd finished. But the whole being negative and nit-picky and pissed off for the sake of it is what I don't like, and probably how some other people feel as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 14:18:23 GMT
I've not seen a single person on here kiss Avril's arse haha. Forum rules. They forbid showing such a kind of thing.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 20, 2018 15:10:10 GMT
I’d appreciate people not making snide comments about us being asskissers. This always happens, when we are waiting for news we end up getting so frustrated we start taking it out on each other and it shouldn’t be like that. At the end of the day, we all love Avril and that’s why we’re here. Her fans have the right to not like accusations being thrown out that aren’t even true (she’s a liar, she hates her fans, she should die because she’s made us wait) and defend her. Doesn’t necessarily make someone an asskisser just because they find reading those things about someone they like to be hurtful. I admire Avril very much and she has always been a huge influence on me, I wouldn’t be the same without her, and I’m sure many of you feel the same way. I feel terrible that she’s gone through an illness and that’s why I also find it hard to be rough on her. So I find it hurtful when people write such terrible things about her and they get so mad and impatient and act like she’s doing it on purpose. We should be happy she’s taking her time to make sure it’s perfect, instead of just halfassing it like the last album. Isn’t that what we all wanted?
If she’s just added a new management to her bio, perhaps that’s part of what’s causing the delay. Another thing we all complained about was her management. She’s making the effort to find new management and that’s another thing we should be happy about that she’s at least trying to correct.
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Post by firdaus92 on Jan 20, 2018 15:14:28 GMT
Counting the days not the memories will leave you uneasy The bullshit some of Avril's ass kissing fans left me already uneasy. I think some of you should adapt the fan name Little Dingleberries Enough already. To call others kissing her butt and dingleberris is too much. I find it so rude. First you said she's a liar, now you're dissing others. If you felt uneasy with some of us, then don't come here. If you felt you're done with her, then stop being her fan.
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Post by Erik on Jan 20, 2018 15:23:05 GMT
Okay so I checked FreeSolo and there is Sony/ATV hat we saw at the Lucky Ones registration. Or is it only new for me? I finally managed to put the picture together. www.freesolo.us/
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Post by rafarinha on Jan 20, 2018 15:32:26 GMT
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Post by katy on Jan 20, 2018 15:54:15 GMT
Don’t really see the point in complaining about other posters in this thread lol. Some people here will look at everything she does through rose tinted glasses, some are pissed off and others are right down the middle. Each to their own, I’ve no issue with people being annoyed just as much as I’ve got no issue with people who want to defend her constantly. Everyone’s different, we’re all here for the same thing. If you don’t like the posts complaining or don’t like the posts defending everything she does then just skip past them. Everyone’s entitled to vent and share opinions.
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Post by fih on Jan 20, 2018 16:24:48 GMT
Repeating myself, I can't wait for the album to be out and then we will talk about something else. Of course then some people will like, some won't and then people will be mean to each other cause of the opinions hahaha
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