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Post by katy on Nov 14, 2018 11:48:17 GMT
I'm extremely surprised at the people who are saying "be grateful for one song", "leave her alone, she's ill"... Let's be honest, Avril pays almost zero respect to her fans, looks bored in almost every performance and pretty much looks like she's given up on her music career. Please remember that the reason Avril has the comfortable lifestyle that she has including money to pay for lyme disease treatment is due to her fans who have spent money on her music, tours and merchandise. It's very sad that she was ill, something that she has now gotten over, and even if she was tired or lethargic, she could sit down and sing songs with passion.. it's not just about her jumping around. I'm disappointed that all we have received is a sub par version of Girlfriend with sub par vocals. I don't think Avril is really connected with the music industry now or her fans, I think she probably lives in a bubble and has done for the last 10 years or so. It's a real shame as this was an opportunity for her to reinvent herself, become more personable and give back to her fans but she doesn't really seem to care and if that's the case then i'm pretty happy to listen to AL6 when it's out but i'll be putting my money into artists that are grateful and care. Spot on.
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Post by Erik on Nov 14, 2018 11:56:05 GMT
I'm extremely surprised at the people who are saying "be grateful for one song", "leave her alone, she's ill"... Let's be honest, Avril pays almost zero respect to her fans, looks bored in almost every performance and pretty much looks like she's given up on her music career. Please remember that the reason Avril has the comfortable lifestyle that she has including money to pay for lyme disease treatment is due to her fans who have spent money on her music, tours and merchandise. It's very sad that she was ill, something that she has now gotten over, and even if she was tired or lethargic, she could sit down and sing songs with passion.. it's not just about her jumping around. I'm disappointed that all we have received is a sub par version of Girlfriend with sub par vocals. I don't think Avril is really connected with the music industry now or her fans, I think she probably lives in a bubble and has done for the last 10 years or so. It's a real shame as this was an opportunity for her to reinvent herself, become more personable and give back to her fans but she doesn't really seem to care and if that's the case then i'm pretty happy to listen to AL6 when it's out but i'll be putting my money into artists that are grateful and care. I'm also wondering how much lies we can get at this point? She said HERSELF at the MSS Gala that the album will be released THIS YEAR, and now she THINKS it will be out in February. Don't even mentioned the year of lies - 2017 - with the FB chat and all...
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Post by rosegold on Nov 14, 2018 12:22:07 GMT
She continuously looks like she's lost her passion and it's very disheartening to see. Her actions just don't match her words, like, ever. She goes on saying in interviews how she's so happy to have her life back and be able to make music again and show it to the world, but the few chances she has to show that excitement and that drive she just looks uninterested and bored, like she'd rather be doing something else.
Plus, she clearly doesn't care to communicate with fans. She has acknowledged this year how her fans were unhappy with the lack of news and the lack of music from her, but she's still making such a small amount of effort to improve the communication with us. It genuinely feels like her team handles 99% of her online presence and Avril just doesn't care at all what happens with that. Any other artist would have realized by now that these long periods of silence after the release of the lead single are not constructive and frown upon by the fanbase, a fanbase that she still manages to hold onto despite two very shaky eras and a long hiatus with no music whatsoever, but Avril just seems not to give a fuck? The little we see from her are the occasional comment on her manager's instagram or the rare paparazzi who still remembers who she is and manages to spot her shopping with her boyfriend.
Maybe we're all just being pessimistic right now given the lack of news and the lackluster performance, but that's one more reason for Avril to actually want to get involved, know what's happening and intervene in some goddamn way. But no, she seemingly doesn't care, nor does she seem to know what goes on around her. How can you expect to have a comeback and be even mildly successful again when you continuously make the experience of being a fan of yours as little rewarding as possible? At this point if the new music isn't as good as I have hoped for her, I'll likely just jump off her train for good. Enough is enough.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Nov 14, 2018 13:11:33 GMT
Let’s hope maybe it was a scenario of the Honda people asking her to choose an old hit to perform, maybe they specifically requested Girlfriend, and because it doesn’t fit the rest of her new music, she didn’t want to be performing it and that’s why she looked bored? Idk I’m grasping at straws here lol I’d like to think she does care about the fans but maybe she just has a terrible way of showing it. I think someone needs to teach her how to use social media to interact with fans and promote herself. Remember how she didn’t even know what FB live was? Could be that she’s just blissfully ignorant. She uses social media perfectly fine when hanging out with friends or some other BS. But I think she has zero clue how to do promo with it and has her team take care of that. If only someone just showed her all the stuff she can do to interact with fans. She probably doesn’t have any idea she can do an IG live. I’d also like to think she hasn’t lost passion for music. Music was what got her through Lyme and she almost thought she’d never make another album again. She wouldn’t have recorded a new album and written personal songs about what she went through if music wasn’t still important to her. She did say more than anything she wants to get back out and perform and tour. When was this Honda thing shot? Back in September? Who knows, maybe her allergies were really bothering her and she wasn’t feeling well, it could have just been an off day for her. She’s never really looked super enthused on stage especially in her early career. Only time wil tell what is in store for this new era in terms of quality. I just hope the tour isn’t half assed again where it’s mostly singles. Or a repeat of GL where she doesn’t perform the songs because they’re “too personal.” I think if we don’t get a single this month there is probably no hope of getting any more singles this year. In December she will probably promote Baby It’s Cold Outside which most fans didn’t care about in the first place or already bought last year lol Anyone else find it sad that she released more songs as features in the last year than she did off her own album?
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Post by Sarah93 on Nov 14, 2018 13:46:54 GMT
Let’s hope maybe it was a scenario of the Honda people asking her to choose an old hit to perform, maybe they specifically requested Girlfriend, and because it doesn’t fit the rest of her new music, she didn’t want to be performing it and that’s why she looked bored? Idk I’m grasping at straws here lol I’d like to think she does care about the fans but maybe she just has a terrible way of showing it. I think someone needs to teach her how to use social media to interact with fans and promote herself. Remember how she didn’t even know what FB live was? Could be that she’s just blissfully ignorant. She uses social media perfectly fine when hanging out with friends or some other BS. But I think she has zero clue how to do promo with it and has her team take care of that. If only someone just showed her all the stuff she can do to interact with fans. She probably doesn’t have any idea she can do an IG live. I’d also like to think she hasn’t lost passion for music. Music was what got her through Lyme and she almost thought she’d never make another album again. She wouldn’t have recorded a new album and written personal songs about what she went through if music wasn’t still important to her. She did say more than anything she wants to get back out and perform and tour. When was this Honda thing shot? Back in September? Who knows, maybe her allergies were really bothering her and she wasn’t feeling well, it could have just been an off day for her. She’s never really looked super enthused on stage especially in her early career. Only time wil tell what is in store for this new era in terms of quality. I just hope the tour isn’t half assed again where it’s mostly singles. Or a repeat of GL where she doesn’t perform the songs because they’re “too personal.” I think if we don’t get a single this month there is probably no hope of getting any more singles this year. In December she will probably promote Baby It’s Cold Outside which most fans didn’t care about in the first place or already bought last year lol Anyone else find it sad that she released more songs as features in the last year than she did off her own album? I agree with you, I'm pretty sure she just doesn't know how to use social media to promote herself at all, yeah she didn't even know what FB live is and I remember when she tagged a random Pizza account when she posted an old photo of her at La Pizzeria, and her team is just really bad at doing it for her. I do wish someone would teach her how to use social media... can't Chad's niece teach her? I think she's a teenager and still considers her family somehow, or even any other member of her family, I'm pretty sure her brother or sister are not as clueless as she seems to be.
I'm also sure she was asked to perform Girlfriend and she just didn't feel like it, beside she had no audience in front of her to engage with, and the good thing about the performance was that after the very nasal part at the beginning, her voice is really strong and on point which is a good sign for the album, which I'm sure will be full of great vocals
I doubt she'll promote that song in December, it was released last year and who really bought it and cares about it?
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Post by vinciano257 on Nov 14, 2018 14:43:44 GMT
Looks like she's not having fun singing Girlfriend anymore. Maybe is time for a show like the Roxy. But she's actually doing nothing. I don't know if we have to blame her, her team or BMG. But this is getting sooo boring...
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Post by fih on Nov 14, 2018 15:10:40 GMT
Guys better not say “I’m sure” cause we aren’t sure. We can imagine that MAYBE they asked her to sing Girlfriend and then she wasn’t so happy about. But we aren’t sure about anything, in the end maybe was her choice to sing it anyways, who knows?!
And also, they could’ve chosen to not release it or not release now anyways and they did, so yeah it was supposed to be there one way or another!
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Post by snapshot on Nov 14, 2018 16:19:31 GMT
My 68 year old mother has managed to grasp how to use facebook and instagram, i'm sure Avril could pick this up (with all the spare time she must have at the moment) and begin to communicate with fans. It's not just about her communication through social media, she could post letters on her website, she could record some home made videos and post them, heck she could even pay someone to do this if she really wanted to. We also can't just blame BMG, i'm sure Avril has some say on how she is marketed and if she wanted to market herself more heavily then i'm sure she could.
Also it's very easy for her to say music got her through Lyme Disease, and this certainly may be the case, but what about giving back to her fans who have followed her through such a long hiatus? Even if she posted an explanation on why the album has been delayed with a couple of snippets that would be better than nothing.
My honest opinion is that AL6 has pretty much been an on going side project for Avril, a bit of fun that she can jump back into whenever she wanted to but not a serious move for her singing career. She's made her fortune and I think she will pretty much fade out of the spotlight after this album and happily concentrate on being an LA socialite.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Nov 14, 2018 17:07:22 GMT
Avril is not dumb I'm pretty sure she would know how to use social media. She has posted instagram live videos before hanging out with her friends I wouldn't even know how to do that For her to update would literally be 3 pushes of a key board
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Post by Erik on Nov 14, 2018 18:41:40 GMT
Based on BMG insta story they decided to promote Dido new album which also has a fucking release date instead of Avrils. Intresting.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2018 19:33:05 GMT
I didn't see her "unwilling" to sing Girlfriend, nor I saw she is "boring" performing it. I liked it. And also it's just ridiculous to expect that after HAW everything she will sing, both the old and new stuff should be "inspirational" all that emotional etc. Why? It's just as laughable as the assumptions of those people that decided that with HAW, she went a "christian" singer and is going to dedicate her to Jesus afterwards. Also as of her social media skills and involvement. I don't know about the former but as of the latter, recently I learnt she is a little bit more involved then I thought. But she is very variable with it, right, Avril? But basically, right, she is not a kind of persons to easily blablabla on social media. For anything. even for the benefit of promoting her own album. A bit of humor. Avril meets social media:
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Post by Meteora on Nov 14, 2018 20:35:58 GMT
Well if you ask me, there's a huge difference between the HAW performance and the girlfriend one. It was done/recorded with a couple of minutes difference. She couldn't change her mood from one minute to the other, could she? Her vocals were good despite the nasal voice due to (our guess) allergies. It really seems like girlfriend was a request or something. Maybe they thought that by performing her only #1 ww song people would be interested on her again, and they only get divided opinions. Many are happy and then it's us who are kind of judgmental. Maybe we're beeing too harsh, even though I believe we are fair enough while judging everything that is happening around her comeback and how poorly are things beeing handled. Something caught my attention, while she was singing she say no or she look like the sound wasn't good or something... maybe from the very beginning something was not right. Am I trying to justify her? Maybe a little. I refuse to think she's lost interest in music/fans and everything related to the music industry.
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Post by gogo87 on Nov 14, 2018 20:36:56 GMT
So..When does the new era start?
Cause we know for sure HAW was the buzz single to explain her desease and keep us calm for the looooong waiting. Only 2 performances for a lead single wouldnt be the best decision for a great come back ..
And this silence?..she did not confirm the album name too..even if we already know it..
Messsssss
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Post by biggerwow on Nov 14, 2018 21:17:19 GMT
So..When does the new era start? Cause we know for sure HAW was the buzz single to explain her desease and keep us calm for the looooong waiting. Only 2 performances for a lead single wouldnt be the best decision for a great come back .. And this silence?..she did not confirm the album name too..even if we already know it.. Messsssss It may seem like a buzz single. But her team wrote on her website "the first single from the forthcoming new album" so it is the first single. Btw her website is ugly, if only they didn't use that background.
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Post by katy on Nov 14, 2018 21:22:19 GMT
Don’t kid yourselves guys - she knows how to use social media when she wants to post IG stories of her drinking Corona and uses social media enough to follow and unfollow Rotem every time they had an argument. She just can’t be arsed.
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