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Post by biggerwow on Mar 25, 2020 16:55:02 GMT
IWIM is also cheesy and simplistic. I understand it being special to her and her struggle but to a person like me it's whatever. I think anyone could have sang the song. Especially, Bright since it's very produced. Back to IWIM, I don't find it as special as IWY or HAW. The lyrics in IWY didn't feel overly cheesy and the emotion came across the entire song. While in IWIM, the emotion comes through almost at the end when she yodels similar to IWY. This is also a major reason why I prefer live performances because that's when a performer gives life to song.
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 27, 2020 12:29:11 GMT
Live performances do give more life to a song! Totally agree! That's why I wanna hear the songs from HAW live. Maybe LMI will be so beautiful live or Bigger Wow being such a blast (I really like the album version) but imagine the song live! And Souvenir.. It would be a shame to never hear those songs live.
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Post by lrb22 on Mar 28, 2020 10:15:48 GMT
I can 100% see why Bright didn't make the cut. It's alright, but that chorus is awful. Sounds like it would have been a better fit for AL5. The lyrics are super cheesy and it's too poppy. I like the horn section in the chrous... Reminds me of a couple of songs on Keshas new album. Umm, instead I love the cheesiness, especially I'm very into how When You're Gone is done. I feel like no matter elder, adult and teenager, we are all connected when listening to those cheesy lyric with poppy sound. Isn't this whole thing is damn beautiful ? Okay Okay Okay, so a week has past and I've literally been playing Bright on repeat and I LOVE IT! Haha
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Post by aia on Mar 29, 2020 16:56:06 GMT
Will Avril ever work again with Chantal Kreviazuk? I love Under My Skin dark and depressing lyrics...
If she had a fight with The Matrix (Lauren Christy), and then made new songs again together. Why can't Avril and Chantal write songs again?
Which fight js bigger, Avril with The Matrix or Avril with Chantal?
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 29, 2020 17:43:45 GMT
Yuck, I honestly hope she never works with Chantal again. Chantal's contributions to UMS were terrible, seriously what kind of lyrics are "I am small and the world is big"? I'm not a big fan of UMS in general, so maybe it's just my taste, but I honestly think UMS is one of her weakest albums, lyrically. Avril's self-written songs on it are some of the better songs, so I'm thinking Chantal is a large reason why the lyrics on UMS are so bad. Slipped Away in particular is terribly written.
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 29, 2020 18:36:04 GMT
I'm listening to Crush after so long. Such a nice song. Too bad Avril doesn't seem to care about much of HAW.
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Post by pllforlife on Mar 30, 2020 1:27:53 GMT
Will Avril ever work again with Chantal Kreviazuk? I love Under My Skin dark and depressing lyrics... If she had a fight with The Matrix (Lauren Christy), and then made new songs again together. Why can't Avril and Chantal write songs again? Which fight js bigger, Avril with The Matrix or Avril with Chantal? Honestly, screw Chantal. Her making fake claims about Avril taking Contagious when it ended up being a completely different song while Avril was dealing with Luke/GF drama. We don’t need her. She’s not even that good. I’d like to see Av write with Sara Bareilles
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Post by ame · 雨 on Mar 30, 2020 3:47:26 GMT
kinda not for this thread but i was listening the other day to David Hodges and oh God, he is such a good songwriter, and still, there you have AL5 which is really weak.
I was just thinking that doesn't really matter what songwriter she gets to work with, it can end up in disaster anyway. She's proven many times she can write a good (or at least decent) song on her own, so it's always a mistery to me some of her lyrics being so bad and lame.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Mar 30, 2020 19:24:09 GMT
This is the moment.
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Post by Gab on Mar 31, 2020 10:01:48 GMT
kinda not for this thread but i was listening the other day to David Hodges and oh God, he is such a good songwriter, and still, there you have AL5 which is really weak. I was just thinking that doesn't really matter what songwriter she gets to work with, it can end up in disaster anyway. She's proven many times she can write a good (or at least decent) song on her own, so it's always a mistery to me some of her lyrics being so bad and lame. You are right on one hand, on the other hand I think it depends on the direction Avril (or her record company) chooses to take. The "serious" songs written with Hodges in AL5 are quite good imho, and they are GYWYL, LMG, HH, HH. And these were all co-written with Hodges only plus Chad on 2 of them. The other songs co-written with Hodges and which end up in disaster are the ones meant to be "fun" and which are also co-written by other people, namely hitmakers. I'm sure there are many other tracks written by Avril and Hodges and/or Chad only, and if the album was made only by those tracks it would have been a quite solid album. And actually it was meant to be that way, based on the first interviews relesead in the process of making the album. The history repeats: the first direction gets changed because of the record company complaining and Avril herself getting convinced she HAS TO put stupid fun tracks on the record, and she also ends liking them the most at the end
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Post by heaven on Mar 31, 2020 10:54:27 GMT
I always found Hush Hush and Hello Heartache very basic and came from the diary of the teenager.. Especially the chorus of Hello Heartache, one of the worst i have ever had: goodbye my friend, hello heartache, it's not the end, it's not the same.. whaaaat?? I mean, come on.
On the other hand, i don't think It Was In Me is that basic..I just think that the long second verse of the Lauren version should have not been erased.
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Post by Jinkxx on Mar 31, 2020 12:13:03 GMT
The HH songs on AL5 are so good I think, but songs such as SOS..... please.. that's for 4 years old kids (sorry if anybody do love SOS).. The fun songs on HAW are mature I think, such as Souvenir, Bigger Wow and DB. I enjoy listening to them while her previous fun songs can't seem to entertain me.
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Post by jant017 on Apr 1, 2020 10:05:31 GMT
Can someone help me? I'm trying to find the thread that listed all Avril's unreleased and bsides (basically all non album tracks) and broke it down by era/album cycle. I can't find it but swear I was in the thread a few months ago...
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Post by RockBitch on Apr 1, 2020 10:48:38 GMT
Can someone help me? I'm trying to find the thread that listed all Avril's unreleased and bsides (basically all non album tracks) and broke it down by era/album cycle. I can't find it but swear I was in the thread a few months ago... Is this what you mean?! Then you can find it here: Avril Lavigne Encyclopedia: The (Almost) Comprehensive List of Unreleased Songs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2020 10:52:36 GMT
Bright didn’t make the album for a reason; it’s not very good. I don’t think there’s many of the leaked songs where I’ve thought it could have made the cut. The only one I really like is Won’t Let You Go but it’s basically Keep Holding On. I’d love her to write more songs with Diane Warren!
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