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Post by jant017 on Apr 1, 2020 11:02:53 GMT
Can someone help me? I'm trying to find the thread that listed all Avril's unreleased and bsides (basically all non album tracks) and broke it down by era/album cycle. I can't find it but swear I was in the thread a few months ago... Is this what you mean?! Then you can find it here: Avril Lavigne Encyclopedia: The (Almost) Comprehensive List of Unreleased SongsThank you!
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Post by Jinkxx on Apr 1, 2020 13:08:09 GMT
Bright didn’t make the album for a reason; it’s not very good. I don’t think there’s many of the leaked songs where I’ve thought it could have made the cut. The only one I really like is Won’t Let You Go but it’s basically Keep Holding On. I’d love her to write more songs with Diane Warren! Won't Let You Go is better then WYG in my opinion and Bright could've fit HAW very good I think! Maybe better then LMI. 2 songs about Lyme would be a more stronger message since that's what the album is called and supposed to be, her overcoming Lyme.
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Post by marliz. on Apr 1, 2020 14:10:58 GMT
Bright didn’t make the album for a reason; it’s not very good. I don’t think there’s many of the leaked songs where I’ve thought it could have made the cut. The only one I really like is Won’t Let You Go but it’s basically Keep Holding On. I’d love her to write more songs with Diane Warren! Won't Let You Go is better then WYG in my opinion and Bright could've fit HAW very good I think! Maybe better then LMI. 2 songs about Lyme would be a more stronger message since that's what the album is called and supposed to be, her overcoming Lyme. Not to bring Bright down but anything would be better than LMI.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 1, 2020 18:13:14 GMT
Hello Kitty VS Love Me Insane
Which will be the most hated song?? (insert tension background music)
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Post by Jinkxx on Apr 1, 2020 18:18:30 GMT
Hello Kitty VS Love Me Insane Which will be the most hated song?? (insert tension background music) This is actually very difficult... xD
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 1, 2020 18:24:56 GMT
kinda not for this thread but i was listening the other day to David Hodges and oh God, he is such a good songwriter, and still, there you have AL5 which is really weak. I was just thinking that doesn't really matter what songwriter she gets to work with, it can end up in disaster anyway. She's proven many times she can write a good (or at least decent) song on her own, so it's always a mistery to me some of her lyrics being so bad and lame. You are right on one hand, on the other hand I think it depends on the direction Avril (or her record company) chooses to take. The "serious" songs written with Hodges in AL5 are quite good imho, and they are GYWYL, LMG, HH, HH. And these were all co-written with Hodges only plus Chad on 2 of them. The other songs co-written with Hodges and which end up in disaster are the ones meant to be "fun" and which are also co-written by other people, namely hitmakers. I'm sure there are many other tracks written by Avril and Hodges and/or Chad only, and if the album was made only by those tracks it would have been a quite solid album. And actually it was meant to be that way, based on the first interviews relesead in the process of making the album. The history repeats: the first direction gets changed because of the record company complaining and Avril herself getting convinced she HAS TO put stupid fun tracks on the record, and she also ends liking them the most at the end To be honest, I always thought LMG, GYWYL, HH or HH were HIGHLY overrated. And i kinda ended up hating let me go, althought i must agree that those are basically the best songs (plus FF) on the album. But some lyrics are just so cringey. And don't get me wrong, as a UMS stan, i love some of her funny stuff. I personally think Girlfriend is quite good in terms of lyrics (except of the chorus, that is a bit cringey) but overall is funny, straight to the point of that Mean Girls feeling of the 00's. And so many other songs in TBDT, the problem i see in AL5 i think is thant she was already what? 30? i know it's not old, but there you have Taylor making funny songs without sounding like a 12 yo kid who thinks she's the fricking boss princess. I'm seriously really afraid Av is gonna end up like Madonna trying to look and act young but turning into a meme. I guess another good example of a good funny song could be DB. But let's be honest, it takes time to write smart lyrics, and it's not a must for her, you cand still get song-writers. and the last sentence, totally agree xD lol By the way, i always seem to hate on her but it's not as serious as i write it, i found myself always coming back to her like a dog to his owner xDD
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Post by biggerwow on Apr 1, 2020 18:44:40 GMT
You are right on one hand, on the other hand I think it depends on the direction Avril (or her record company) chooses to take. The "serious" songs written with Hodges in AL5 are quite good imho, and they are GYWYL, LMG, HH, HH. And these were all co-written with Hodges only plus Chad on 2 of them. The other songs co-written with Hodges and which end up in disaster are the ones meant to be "fun" and which are also co-written by other people, namely hitmakers. I'm sure there are many other tracks written by Avril and Hodges and/or Chad only, and if the album was made only by those tracks it would have been a quite solid album. And actually it was meant to be that way, based on the first interviews relesead in the process of making the album. The history repeats: the first direction gets changed because of the record company complaining and Avril herself getting convinced she HAS TO put stupid fun tracks on the record, and she also ends liking them the most at the end To be honest, I always thought LMG, GYWYL, HH or HH were HIGHLY overrated. And i kinda ended up hating let me go, althought i must agree that those are basically the best songs (plus FF) on the album. But some lyrics are just so cringey. And don't get me wrong, as a UMS stan, i love some of her funny stuff. I personally think Girlfriend is quite good in terms of lyrics (except of the chorus, that is a bit cringey) but overall is funny, straight to the point of that Mean Girls feeling of the 00's. And so many other songs in TBDT, the problem i see in AL5 i think is thant she was already what? 30? i know it's not old, but there you have Taylor making funny songs without sounding like a 12 yo kid who thinks she's the fricking boss princess. I'm seriously really afraid Av is gonna end up like Madonna trying to look and act young but turning into a meme. I guess another good example of a good funny song could be DB. But let's be honest, it takes time to write smart lyrics, and it's not a must for her, you cand still get song-writers. and the last sentence, totally agree xD lol By the way, i always seem to hate on her but it's not as serious as i write it, i found myself always coming back to her like a dog to his owner xDD She was in her early 20s lmao She did say she wanted a legacy like Madonna Nah I feel more like a kid with an embarrassing mom that I love too much Hey and don't forget the Weeee are never ever EVER getting back together. Taylor can do childish too
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 1, 2020 21:25:04 GMT
She was 29 tho xD haha
I know she said it, that's why i'm afraid. I reaaaally don't like Madonna.
And idk, i don't think that taylor's sonf is childish. I mean yes but no. It's kinda a message to someone, it's nothing ambiguous or floating in the air (?) like DB, is sung to someone, and we are never...that song, is meant to be "childish" i guess, you get she's dissing someone, you get it's a joke, you get it's meant to be funny but at the same time it's rude and it's not cringey (maybe a bit who knows)
but the most important thing is that it tells a story, what stories exactly half of AL5 tell? That she loves sticking her umbrella in the sand? xD
OMG, i'm not a disguised hater i promise xD
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Post by biggerwow on Apr 2, 2020 1:21:47 GMT
She was 29 tho xD haha I know she said it, that's why i'm afraid. I reaaaally don't like Madonna. And idk, i don't think that taylor's sonf is childish. I mean yes but no. It's kinda a message to someone, it's nothing ambiguous or floating in the air (?) like DB, is sung to someone, and we are never...that song, is meant to be "childish" i guess, you get she's dissing someone, you get it's a joke, you get it's meant to be funny but at the same time it's rude and it's not cringey (maybe a bit who knows) but the most important thing is that it tells a story, what stories exactly half of AL5 tell? That she loves sticking her umbrella in the sand? xD OMG, i'm not a disguised hater i promise xD Oh crap I thought you meant when she wrote GF lol Yea Avril has never been good at storytelling and her lyrics lack detail. Like I'm listening to Colors by Halsey right now and I can't ever imagine Avril being so detailed and wordy. Kind of unpopular opinion here since fans love that Avril writes all her music. But I wouldn't mind her letting other songwriters take the wheel. After all, we wouldn't have had Complicated or IWY if it weren't for the professional team behind her at the time.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 2, 2020 3:27:47 GMT
She was 29 tho xD haha I know she said it, that's why i'm afraid. I reaaaally don't like Madonna. And idk, i don't think that taylor's sonf is childish. I mean yes but no. It's kinda a message to someone, it's nothing ambiguous or floating in the air (?) like DB, is sung to someone, and we are never...that song, is meant to be "childish" i guess, you get she's dissing someone, you get it's a joke, you get it's meant to be funny but at the same time it's rude and it's not cringey (maybe a bit who knows) but the most important thing is that it tells a story, what stories exactly half of AL5 tell? That she loves sticking her umbrella in the sand? xD OMG, i'm not a disguised hater i promise xD Oh crap I thought you meant when she wrote GF lol Yea Avril has never been good at storytelling and her lyrics lack detail. Like I'm listening to Colors by Halsey right now and I can't ever imagine Avril being so detailed and wordy. Kind of unpopular opinion here since fans love that Avril writes all her music. But I wouldn't mind her letting other songwriters take the wheel. After all, we wouldn't have had Complicated or IWY if it weren't for the professional team behind her at the time. Exactly xD must give her props for (supposedly) writting Nobody's home on her own tho.
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Post by aia on Apr 2, 2020 18:03:27 GMT
Head Above Water for church pray, and now Birdie for aerial performance? Are there other videos from HAW's album like this?
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 3, 2020 0:35:09 GMT
Just listening to Bright on repeat and honestly, it could be a really good song fo some against-coronavirus movement. Like the anthem for the sick ones :'/
I can already picture a music video, with dark empty hospitals and she walking through the halls, and when the "i'm just another shooting star, disappearing in the dark..." part comes in, i see a hospital bed in a giant room with a starry night, then some dancers during the chorus and as the video goes on, it would apear that paint you see in the dark and everyone would be more and more painted. And some screens with numbers increasing.
Ramona, read this and release Bright as a single for the love of God!!
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Post by ame · 雨 on Apr 3, 2020 0:38:14 GMT
Head Above Water for church pray, and now Birdie for aerial performance? Are there other videos from HAW's album like this? 1. Wanna see that 2. That's more promo than Avril has made since the album release
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Post by pllforlife on Apr 4, 2020 23:20:30 GMT
Sigh. Gerard Way is releasing I unreleased stuff for his fans.... Avril is the only celebrity not doing anything.
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Post by pllforlife on Apr 4, 2020 23:24:01 GMT
Putting Bitchin’ Summer in her story might be one of the dumbest things she’s ever done. Who even advises her on things?
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