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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 29, 2021 12:57:35 GMT
Yeah it’s a similar situation in the US, though not with concerts. Some families actually got a check to help send their kid to an alternate school if they don’t want their kid to wear a mask. Like you can do what you want, vaccine or no vaccine, mask or no mask, but then you should have to deal with whatever the consequences are of not complying. It’s nobody else’s problem to get your kid to school or get you to a concert, etc.
It was also infuriating to me that in many US states they were giving out incentives for younger people to get vaxxed, like free drinks or free this and that, and it’s like what about all of us who actually acted like responsible adults and got vaccinated without some stupid bribe? Nothing for us huh?
This world has gone to shit because of stupid and selfish people and our governments aren’t doing anything to help when they just encourage this type of behavior. I frequently say to my fiancé if we were in a WWII type of situation right now where we’d be told to ration and shit like that, we’d all be fucked.
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Post by marliz. on Sept 29, 2021 13:16:39 GMT
Yeah it’s a similar situation in the US, though not with concerts. Some families actually got a check to help send their kid to an alternate school if they don’t want their kid to wear a mask. Like you can do what you want, vaccine or no vaccine, mask or no mask, but then you should have to deal with whatever the consequences are of not complying. It’s nobody else’s problem to get your kid to school or get you to a concert, etc. It was also infuriating to me that in many US states they were giving out incentives for younger people to get vaxxed, like free drinks or free this and that, and it’s like what about all of us who actually acted like responsible adults and got vaccinated without some stupid bribe? Nothing for us huh? This world has gone to shit because of stupid and selfish people and our governments aren’t doing anything to help when they just encourage this type of behavior. I frequently say to my fiancé if we were in a WWII type of situation right now where we’d be told to ration and shit like that, we’d all be fucked. lol if getting free things is what gets people over the line to get themselves vaccinated, that's really sad.
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Post by eismann on Sept 29, 2021 20:34:24 GMT
Nah, I dont agree. In Germany there were some statistics that people with less money are more likely to get a vaccination if they get something for free, because otherwise the costs of paying public transport to go to the vaccination location, probably leaving work early etc. are too high for nothing in return. So it makes sense to give people something for free. If you didnt need a free drink to be convinced to get vaccinated, good for you.
I also feel that singers or bands who cancel their concerts because people need to be vaccinated/recovered/tested (that's the strategy in Germany), are probably anti-vaccination themselves. At least that was the case with some singers here. These people never cared about concert tickets being so expensive that some people, especially families, could never visit a single concert or go to the movies or go shopping etc. That was never "segregation" or discrimination or "2nd class citizenship"or whatever BS they are saying. What these people need is education, not concerts.
Anyway, I dont really see how this tour can be managed. Like everywhere there are different rules, even in the counties in Germany it's not the same. It seems so complicated to make this tour happen...
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 29, 2021 22:13:08 GMT
I live in a poor area and was shocked how close several vaccination spots were near my house. I could have walked to CVS. I guess it depends where you live. The US has done a very good job of making vaccinations available. Too bad the sweepstakes started happening right after we got our full vaccinations. I won nothing but peace of mind at least lol. Even then, I think it's worth the commute. Oh no wait I did get a 10% coupon from CVS on my last shot.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 29, 2021 22:39:41 GMT
Just because that was the case in Germany does not mean it was like that elsewhere. In the US they made vaccines accessible for most communities - they made public transportation free and mandated employers to allow employees time off to go get their shot. These bribes were handed out to bratty college kids who thought they were invincible and didn’t need the vaccine - it was not for people who legitimately needed help with access to vaccines. They also did plenty of mobile sites with shots driving around to more rural areas or house visits. There was literally no excuse not to get it - they made it as accessible as possible for everyone. The bribes were handed out for selfish brats.
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Post by HBK on Oct 2, 2021 21:21:11 GMT
So she had 6 dates total in Germany (Berlin, Munich, Cologne, Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Stuttgart)? Yes but as she skips Western Europe many fans from the countries bought tickets and sold out Berlin/Cologne. Do her fans throughout Western and Eastern Europe speak enough German to visit Germany to see her? I was actually gonna travel to Germany to see Avril without knowing a word of German.
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Post by Anna on Oct 3, 2021 7:49:46 GMT
Yes but as she skips Western Europe many fans from the countries bought tickets and sold out Berlin/Cologne. Do her fans throughout Western and Eastern Europe speak enough German to visit Germany to see her? I was actually gonna travel to Germany to see Avril without knowing a word of German. I don’t think you need to know the language of the country to visit it
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Post by katy on Oct 3, 2021 18:56:54 GMT
This is getting a bit silly now isn’t it? I can only assume they’re holding off announcing the rescheduled Europe dates to rename the tour to something more AL7 related. But we literally don’t care what the tours called - we just want to know the dates! It’s very likely I now won’t be going, and that’s purely down to them not announcing the new dates so I can’t sort holiday from work. So thanks, team Avril, great work as per 🙄
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 3, 2021 19:49:33 GMT
I suspect there will be a lot of people who won’t be going now, whether it’s for COVID reasons or travel/hotel reasons or not being able to get the time off. A shame since she was selling 8,000 seat venues out, but well, as usual there is no one to blame but her incompetent team.
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Post by Anna on Oct 3, 2021 20:39:17 GMT
I suspect there will be a lot of people who won’t be going now, whether it’s for COVID reasons or travel/hotel reasons or not being able to get the time off. A shame since she was selling 8,000 seat venues out, but well, as usual there is no one to blame but her incompetent team. I bet there’s plenty of people just waiting for a refund or voucher because now they can use this voucher to see live somebody they are into more than Avril.
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Post by eismann on Oct 4, 2021 8:33:06 GMT
Some artists in Germany said they cant tour in 2021 and so they will have to move to 2023, because 1) the locations are already booked for 2022 and 2) some bookers refuse to book for 2022 because they already lost so much money in 2021 (when they rescheduled everything from 2020 to 2021).
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Post by Anna on Oct 4, 2021 11:22:35 GMT
Some artists in Germany said they cant tour in 2021 and so they will have to move to 2023, because 1) the locations are already booked for 2022 and 2) some bookers refuse to book for 2022 because they already lost so much money in 2021 (when they rescheduled everything from 2020 to 2021). But she re-booked in 2020 so she’s literally taking their spots
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Post by marliz. on Oct 5, 2021 9:15:26 GMT
This is getting a bit silly now isn’t it? I can only assume they’re holding off announcing the rescheduled Europe dates to rename the tour to something more AL7 related. But we literally don’t care what the tours called - we just want to know the dates! It’s very likely I now won’t be going, and that’s purely down to them not announcing the new dates so I can’t sort holiday from work. So thanks, team Avril, great work as per 🙄 I completely forgot I had tickets for England as well and would need to get time off and book flight tickets etc. in advance.. Surely they'd announce it at least a couple of months before the actual tour starts
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Post by ★Caro★ on Oct 5, 2021 10:12:53 GMT
This is getting a bit silly now isn’t it? I can only assume they’re holding off announcing the rescheduled Europe dates to rename the tour to something more AL7 related. But we literally don’t care what the tours called - we just want to know the dates! It’s very likely I now won’t be going, and that’s purely down to them not announcing the new dates so I can’t sort holiday from work. So thanks, team Avril, great work as per 🙄 I completely forgot I had tickets for England as well and would need to get time off and book flight tickets etc. in advance.. Surely they'd announce it at least a couple of months before the actual tour starts ...that reminds me of looking for all of my tickets, LOL xD
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 5, 2021 11:53:47 GMT
I can’t believe it’s been 2 years already since I saw Avril on the HAW tour. It feels more like only 1 year lol
2 years later we’re trying to figure out if/when the rest of the dates are even happening lol
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