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Post by pllforlife on Mar 7, 2023 19:16:18 GMT
No, Avril getting involved with an abuser is objectively bad. Bad for for her, and potentially threatening and dangerous also, and fans are letting her know they are concerned for her. Are WE the bad guys because we DISAPPROVE of Avril dating someone who was up for Felony Domestic Assault charges? Honestly, get over yourself. God u r annoying...urrg always quoting people and making digs here and there. How old are u? Are u a woman? All the people siding with Avril and here u r making digs with weird jibes that make no sense. I literally never post here but treating Avril like she is dating a serial killer cuz he's obviously black...damn. Nope people let it slide that MGK is a pedo and still did bois lie cuz he is a rockstar and white. Huh? Mostly the entire forum was pissed about the MGK thing and so was social media. You must have not been on this forum for a while because it was a very big topic when it was announced about Bois Lie. Also, the set list was a huge thing with Avril’s fans here…
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 19:17:48 GMT
THIS...thank you. The same stan when Avril goes blank or completely off the radar will ask why she isn't interacting or posting. To see people enjoying Avril getting bashed and loving their influence on her love life...aren't WE the groomer? We want her to date who we want, dress up like we want etc...where was this passion for her poor setlist or her lack of professionalism at times on her media posts? The double standard is bad. Aren't we the groomer? Of a 16 year old? Nope that was T Raw She dated rockstars like Deryck and Chad and god knows in those days people didn't open their eyes or voice out. But T Raw is the rapper...let's get harder on him. The racism here is blatant. Go read a book or two about the rockstar culture and u'll learn that ur favorite rockstar probably slept with many minors....just the women didn't voice out.
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Post by cannonballavalanche on Mar 7, 2023 19:18:32 GMT
I’m curious - in your guys’ opinions - why do you think she’s keeping quiet? This is what stumps me.
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Post by damncoldnights on Mar 7, 2023 19:19:43 GMT
I think I speak for the majority of us when I say we're not worried about her career but about her actual physical, mental and/or emotional well-being. And I think we have good reasons to. Look at Tyga's history. Just look at his Wikipedia and click/read through the actual sources. Since 2012, he's been accused of multiple robberies, domestic abuse, and other such things, the latest of which was in October 2021! That's not even two years ago. These are good reasons to believe that he hasn't changed his ways, hence there seems to be a high chance he might be abusing someone again. And since he and Avril seem to be dating now (or at least spending a lot of time together - I'm still hoping they're just "having fun" or whatever and aren't actually dating), she could likely be the next one he'll abuse. Do we really want for Avril to have to "learn the hard way" who she's dealing with? Does it really have to come so far that Avril - or anyone, for that matter - has to be abused and possibly traumatised before they realize what's happening to them? I really don't think so. We fans certainly don't want this to happen. To anyone. As for not knowing what goes on behind closed doors: That's true. We don't, and we have no way of knowing. For all we know, all of Avril's previous relationships were abusive (I doubt it, judging by the way Avril has talked about most of them, but there's no way for us to know for sure). However, just because her previous bfs/husbands might have treated her badly, really doesn't justify Tyga potentially treating her badly as well. Also, all of Avril's previous bfs/husbands didn't nearly have the history that Tyga has. Yes, Deryck and Mod both had a history of drug and/or alcohol abuse. But they had shown clear signs of getting better and wanting to get better. They also didn't have any history of domestic abuse, afaik. Unlike Tyga. I'll say it again: Less than two years ago, he was arrested over domestic abuse charges. He's shown again and again since 2012 that he has not changed his ways. If this isn't reason for concern, then I really don't know what is. Lastly, from what we fans have seen of Avril since the start of her career, she seems to be acting quite unlike herself these days. Personally, it reminds me of those times shortly after/before (?) she and Deryck made their divorce public, when she was seen drinking and partying A LOT. Except this time, she's instead making out with a known abuser. This just doesn't feel right. I really hope I'm wrong, but to me it seems like she's so devastated by her and Mod's relationship ending, she just ran to the next-best guy to distract herself from the heartache, not really caring who the guy is or what danger she might be in because of his abusive past. It almost feels like she's on a path of self-destruction. And just because he might treat her nice now, doesn't mean he will in the future, likely even the very near future. For the third time: Look at his past. There are no signs of him having changed his ways. I usually don't write posts like this, but I just can't believe how a few people can just brush off Avril/anyone dating an abuser like it's nothing to be worried about. Thank you for posting this, this is exactly what I’ve been trying to say but not quite being able to find the words. I think either Mod royally F-ed up (no evidence for this though) or it just became clear that for reasons already discussed, they weren’t going to work long term (the more likely scenario). Either way, I don’t think she necessarily *wanted* things to be over with Mod, but sometimes breaking up is the best option for everybody involved. And so I think she’s rebounding HARD, especially with the new “source” saying their romance is very very new and they’re getting to know each other, and 2 days ago she was holding hands with that other guy. Doesn’t make it at all right, I don’t agree with what she’s doing, but honestly I’m just scared for her -and disappointed- rather than mad, because I don’t think she’s okay. At all. They seem to be partying a bit and I’m hoping that kiss was an alcohol-induced terrible decision, and she/her team read the insta comments and are trying to do damage control and screw her head back on straight. She does look sad today IMO. If she’s trying to get back at Mod or purposefully hurt him for whatever reason, that’s just low. Even *if* he did do something, this is over the top, completely unnecessary, childish, and disappointing and I hope when she comes to her senses, she feels really bad and makes a public apology to him. If (big big if) they’d been done for a while and Mod just wasn’t getting it, and she’s just living her life weeks post-breakup, it’s unfortunate that Mod feels blindsided and I do feel bad for him, but at the same time she can’t continue to be responsible for his feelings if she did in fact make it clear to him weeks ago that things were over. I doubt this is the case, but not out of the realm of possibility so I’m throwing out there; on the off chance this is the case, for the love of God could she please make a statement (unless she’s trying to protect Mod from having to say “yeah we broke up months ago but he didn’t believe it” to the world). All that being said, I did want to add to the discussion of her moving on quickly from all her relationships: cheating is a no-no in my book. Flaunting rebounds to your exes is a no-no in my book. Other than that, moving on quickly doesn’t make her a bad person IMO. Men don’t get crapped on when they have a rebound or move on quickly (or, crapped on nearly as much). Just because someone’s moved on physically doesn’t mean they’ve moved on emotionally. I personally don’t think it’s the healthiest of coping mechanisms, but everyone copes differently and I think the biggest issues here are 1) it’s Tyga, 2) was it cheating, 3) it appears she’s showing blatant disregard for Mod’s feelings rather than keeping her rebound private, not that she has the tendency to engage in rebounds. I realize my posts have probably come across like I’m twisting myself into a pretzel trying to defend Avril. I’ll admit that I’m definitely biased in hoping this whole situation has just been a series of unfortunate timing, poorly thought out decisions by her and her team, and inappropriate alcohol-induced jokes they’re playing on the media or, at worst, a horrible rebound choice. I guess at this point, the best (for both her and Mod) scenario I’m hoping for is that her and Mod have been off and on for a few weeks with a hard breakup deadline of the start of his tour, he was in denial/didn’t get the memo through his head, in her mind she had sufficiently communicated to him that they were over so she/someone in her circle leaked it to the press, it became clear Mod still felt blindsided, so they added the part about how they’d been off and on for months. This PFW thing had probably been planned for a while and she couldn’t back out even if she wanted to, has just been trying to get through it and complete her obligations, and decided to engage in a rebound to try to feel better, showing reckless disregard for her safety and Mod’s feelings in the process, but is just so distraught she’s thinking these things through even less than usual. That’s what I’m clinging to, because IMO that’s the scenario that will, over time, leave Mod with the least amount of pain (he didn’t get cheated on, she tried to end things nicely and let him down slowly and try to maintain their friendship, it just took a lot for him to get it), and provides some rationalization for her going off the deep end in a way that will hopefully be very temporary. It also means it’s less likely Tyga’s taken this PFW trip as an opportunity to pounce on her vulnerability because the kiss/hook up was a spur of the moment decision on her part to try to cope. At any rate, I hope Lauren and YungBlud were able to meet up/talk privately and are planning an intervention of some sort. Edit after seeing more of today’s videos: I agree with others who have said she looks uncomfortable with Tyga. I really, REALLY hope -because they were drinking last night- that that kissing fiasco wasn’t initiated by him, although it looked like his hand was on her jaw so maybe it was.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 19:22:21 GMT
No, Avril getting involved with an abuser is objectively bad. Bad for for her, and potentially threatening and dangerous also, and fans are letting her know they are concerned for her. Are WE the bad guys because we DISAPPROVE of Avril dating someone who was up for Felony Domestic Assault charges? Honestly, get over yourself. God u r annoying...urrg always quoting people and making digs here and there. How old are u? Are u a woman? All the people siding with Avril and here u r making digs with weird jibes that make no sense. I literally never post here but treating Avril like she is dating a serial killer cuz he's obviously black...damn. Nope people let it slide that MGK is a pedo and still did bois lie cuz he is a rockstar and white. If you think I let MGK slide for targeting minors you don’t know me at all. Roll tape . . .
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Post by pllforlife on Mar 7, 2023 19:22:57 GMT
Aren't we the groomer? Of a 16 year old? Nope that was T Raw She dated rockstars like Deryck and Chad and god knows in those days people didn't open their eyes or voice out. But T Raw is the rapper...let's get harder on him. The racism here is blatant. Go read a book or two about the rockstar culture and u'll learn that ur favorite rockstar probably slept with many minors....just the women didn't voice out. LITERALLY no one liked Chad. He was so pervy and was cheating with Avril on some random person from Akron OH who found out that Avril was the other woman on the news. Chad and Av were so cringe fest and this forum was lit up with people saying that. Has nothing to do with Race. If she was saying like Michael B Jordon no one would care because he’s a definite upgrade and a total catch. But when she’s dumping Mod, showing up randomly with Tyga and just being really weird it’s going to be talked about. People are worried about her mental health. Tyga is proven to have groomed minors. If anything this is like intervention time for why Avril associates herself with creepy guys.
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 19:23:28 GMT
God u r annoying...urrg always quoting people and making digs here and there. How old are u? Are u a woman? All the people siding with Avril and here u r making digs with weird jibes that make no sense. I literally never post here but treating Avril like she is dating a serial killer cuz he's obviously black...damn. Nope people let it slide that MGK is a pedo and still did bois lie cuz he is a rockstar and white. Huh? Mostly the entire forum was pissed about the MGK thing and so was social media. You must have not been on this forum for a while because it was a very big topic when it was announced about Bois Lie. Also, the set list was a huge thing with Avril’s fans here… U said it...here on the forum...not on her instagram posts that she had to turn off comments. Why didn't fans bombard her music video with MGK? Btw im an Avril fan since day 1 and been on Bandaids in the early days...forgot my password and got back here since Head Above Water Era.
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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 19:24:11 GMT
Aren't we the groomer? Of a 16 year old? Nope that was T Raw She dated rockstars like Deryck and Chad and god knows in those days people didn't open their eyes or voice out. But T Raw is the rapper...let's get harder on him. The racism here is blatant. Go read a book or two about the rockstar culture and u'll learn that ur favorite rockstar probably slept with many minors....just the women didn't voice out. I'm not gonna go back and forth on this, but us being concerned about Avril dating a known groomer, criminal and abuser of women is not racist. Regardless of the other people you bring up or the what ifs.
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Post by falling on Mar 7, 2023 19:25:07 GMT
So much has already been written... But I just want to say now that at this moment I feel sorry for Avril as an ordinary person because of the wave of negativity that has now covered her. I understand the reaction of many to her behavior. But we just don't really know. I think a lot of fans see Avril as a virtual friend that we connect with our favorite songs and give her the qualities we want to see in her. I really try not to do it, because I don't know her personally.
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Post by pllforlife on Mar 7, 2023 19:27:12 GMT
Huh? Mostly the entire forum was pissed about the MGK thing and so was social media. You must have not been on this forum for a while because it was a very big topic when it was announced about Bois Lie. Also, the set list was a huge thing with Avril’s fans here… U said it...here on the forum...not on her instagram posts that she had to turn off comments. Why didn't fans bombard her music video with MGK? Btw im an Avril fan since day 1 and been on Bandaids in the early days...forgot my password and got back here since Head Above Water Era. THEY DID. are you just circling back to Avril or something? No one here needs to go back and retrace everything for you. It was all over social media and articles and TikTok comments etc about MGK.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 19:33:52 GMT
I’m curious - in your guys’ opinions - why do you think she’s keeping quiet? This is what stumps me. Because she knows the backlash she’ll get
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 19:36:10 GMT
Imagine thinking calling out a guy who groomed a minor, was arrested for domestic violence, sued by 3 women for exposing their bare breasts without consent, owing money on unpaid taxes, and working with a fellow abuser is racist lmao If he was white, we’d all be saying the exact same thing still.
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Post by panop on Mar 7, 2023 19:36:21 GMT
Why do you even care about her personal life?? She can delete as many comments as she likes. Her acoount. doesn't need to have all this negativity in it. And for something that it's none of our business. Do i like her relationship with Tyga?? No! and that's it. Why go attack or try to shame anyone...when it has nothing to do with me. If she cheated on Mod Sun with Tyga...then Mod Sun is the only one who has any right to confront her (IF)! And We don;t even know what has happened... Reports say that they were on and off for months. Of course all that is true. But she's a public figure. We can talk about it. By your logic we shouldn't have an opinion about anything she does or at least not say anything. So no need for any forums or comment sections at all. Is it okay to agree with her choices and say it? Or just not okay to disagree in writing or verbally? based on my logic we can have any opinion..but no right to harass anyone with it. public figure or not.
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 19:38:04 GMT
So much has already been written... But I just want to say now that at this moment I feel sorry for Avril as an ordinary person because of the wave of negativity that has now covered her. I understand the reaction of many to her behavior. But we just don't really know. I think a lot of fans see Avril as a virtual friend that we connect with our favorite songs and give her the qualities we want to see in her. I really try not to do it, because I don't know her personally. Yes, yes, yes....i never did too. I was born in the 80s when fans didn't have a say in everything to try to dictate or judge everything. I think this is the major reason why some stars have breakdowns. Avril isn't obligated to our opinions but to make Avril into a monster...it's bad! People are getting mean and here many are gloating that these response are affecting her. God knows why she stayed silent for 2 months... We are talking about mental health here but know words can hurt too and do get to Avril.
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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 19:38:20 GMT
I’m curious - in your guys’ opinions - why do you think she’s keeping quiet? This is what stumps me. I feel like throughout cancel culture people have learned a strategy to just not address anything and it eventually goes away. She may be trying to do that. She also may not have realized how much this would upset her fans. She's more relevant now than she's been in a while too so there are so many comments pouring in right now ... I seriously don't know. I just think she's trying to stay above it all by not addressing anything but it's failing miserably. I'm rambling here but yeah
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