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Post by aprilvineyard on Mar 7, 2023 19:39:45 GMT
Of course all that is true. But she's a public figure. We can talk about it. By your logic we shouldn't have an opinion about anything she does or at least not say anything. So no need for any forums or comment sections at all. Is it okay to agree with her choices and say it? Or just not okay to disagree in writing or verbally? based on my logic we can have any opinion..but no right to harass anyone with it. public figure or not. I guess I just don't think us talking about this on this forum is harassing anyone
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 19:40:16 GMT
So much has already been written... But I just want to say now that at this moment I feel sorry for Avril as an ordinary person because of the wave of negativity that has now covered her. I understand the reaction of many to her behavior. But we just don't really know. I think a lot of fans see Avril as a virtual friend that we connect with our favorite songs and give her the qualities we want to see in her. I really try not to do it, because I don't know her personally. Yes, yes, yes....i never did too. I was born in the 80s when fans didn't have a say in everything to try to dictate or judge everything. I think this is the major reason why some stars have breakdowns. Avril isn't obligated to our opinions but to make Avril into a monster...it's bad! People are getting mean and here many are gloating that these response are affecting her. God knows why she stayed silent for 2 months... We are talking about mental health here but know words can hurt too and do get to Avril. Please spare us. She made the choice to actively date a criminal. You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 19:42:46 GMT
There’s this movie called Jacob’s Ladder where Tim Robbins is terrorized by seemingly demonic forces but (spoilers) it turns out that they are actually angelic and only appear Hell-sent to him because his soul is resisting passing on into Heaven.
Aaaaaaand? Fans are not expressing negativity to Avril, they are expressing CONCERN. They are calling out a bad guy with a bad track record for being bad and asking Avril wtf she is doing with him. We’re stunned and want to know why she is doing this.
If you see this as being negative or harmful to Avril you’re not looking at the situation clearly, and should try again.
Or to put it another way “I’m not here to rob you, Bilbo Baggins. I’m here to help you.”
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Post by panop on Mar 7, 2023 19:42:50 GMT
Why do you even care about her personal life?? She can delete as many comments as she likes. Her acoount. doesn't need to have all this negativity in it. And for something that it's none of our business. Do i like her relationship with Tyga?? No! and that's it. Why go attack or try to shame anyone...when it has nothing to do with me. If she cheated on Mod Sun with Tyga...then Mod Sun is the only one who has any right to confront her (IF)! And We don;t even know what has happened... Reports say that they were on and off for months. You are missing the point. So MANY of you are missing the point. This actually has nothing to do with Avril breaking up with Mod in bad faith. Literally nothing. That's an entirely separate issue. What we are incensed about is Avril getting into a relationship with someone with an incredibly sketch history (and RECENT history) of being a misogynist and an abuser. And we are both scared for Avril's wellbeing and appalled that she would have ANYTHING to do with this person. Let alone DATE him. That's it. That's where the focus is. Relationships end, well or poorly. But Avril MADE A CHOICE to be with someone who could potentially hurt her physically and mess with her mind. That's what this outcry is all about (at least from my POV.) Anyone who's ok with that here has no idea what they are talking about. ADDENDUM: So if Avril (Hi, Avril!) or anyone on her team is stealth-ing the forums to see what the mood of the fanbase is that's what you can take away. Forget about the break-up, we'll deal with that another time We just want to see Avril in a safe space among her family & friends who love her and want only the best for her, where she can process everything that's happened the last few months. We're not mad at her (well, maybe a little bit, but we ARE disappointed). We just don't understand why she is getting herself into a situation that can only have bad outcomes for her. Can you help us understand that? Or, convey to Avril our concern for her? She should listen to her fans on this, not shut them out. I get your point but even if it's a bad choice(I don't like Tyga as well)...we can dissagree or point out that it's a bad choice in a polite or respectfull(to Avril) way... because with some comments that wasn't the case. does she even know of his life style/past?? not trying to defend her choice. this relationship will not end well...but...
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Post by tommygun on Mar 7, 2023 19:44:21 GMT
I just don’t even know what to say right now… I was loving her Paris Fashion Week and now it seems to have taken a dark turn.
The video of her today with the extensions and matching outfit with Tyga seemed really off. She seemed like she was suffering major anxiety or something.
She is definitely playing this the wrong way. PFW should have been about her, moving on, being independent. Even if it was someone other than Tyga she was seen kissing or dating, it really is not the right time or place and she has come off looking like the bad guy over Mod even though she may not be we just don’t know. Add to the mix Tyga’s past and it’s a recipe for disaster and I just foresee drama in the future from Mod etc which I wouldn’t want for Avril as we know she is a private person.
The magazine last week announcing the Modvril split for me thinking about the Royal Family here in the U.K., in the event Harry and Megan documentary on Netflix, Harry was saying that the royal family “leak” things they want to be printed to the press themselves and the source is always just mentioned as a “close source” so I wonder if it was Avril versed that went to the press but wanted to remain anonymous..
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Post by panop on Mar 7, 2023 19:47:13 GMT
based on my logic we can have any opinion..but no right to harass anyone with it. public figure or not. I guess I just don't think us talking about this on this forum is harassing anyone no...in her IG comments! not talking about us on here! some people can be really mean in their comments. so tha't why i'm saying..she deleted or blocked comments.
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 19:47:16 GMT
Imagine thinking calling out a guy who groomed a minor, was arrested for domestic violence, sued by 3 women for exposing their bare breasts without consent, owing money on unpaid taxes, and working with a fellow abuser is racist lmao If he was white, we’d all be saying the exact same thing still. Cleary not enough for her to turn off her instagram post about MGK, Marilyn Manson etc...i don't remember paragraphs and paragraphs about that on threads in here. You guys are delusional...the not sooo subtle racism is here....whether u like it or not.The LOL u put says much about u on such a sensitive issue. As a black fan i'm out...in all my livelihood as an Avril fan i have NEVER seen such an incendiary and hateful thread about Avril and a guy she just dated. Avril has had her share of shady boyfriends and here we are writing passionately about someone's wikipedia bio.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 19:51:00 GMT
Imagine thinking calling out a guy who groomed a minor, was arrested for domestic violence, sued by 3 women for exposing their bare breasts without consent, owing money on unpaid taxes, and working with a fellow abuser is racist lmao If he was white, we’d all be saying the exact same thing still. Cleary not enough for her to turn off her instagram post about MGK, Marilyn Manson etc...i don't remember paragraphs and paragraphs about that on threads in here. You guys are delusional...the not sooo subtle racism is here....whether u like it or not.The LOL u put says much about u on such a sensitive issue. As a black fan i'm out...in all my livelihood as an Avril fan i have NEVER seen such an incendiary and hateful thread about Avril and a guy she just dated. Avril has had her share of shady boyfriends and here we are writing passionately anout someone's wikipedia bio. On your way out grab a dictionary so you can look up what the word “racist” actually means
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Post by nessa on Mar 7, 2023 19:51:46 GMT
I wonder if she didn’t make any official statement because they weren’t married? Correct me if I am wrong, but she only wrote statements for her divorces, right? Maybe the kissing for the cameras was just a “f&$k it! I’m tired of all the speculation, let’s give them what they want”. Even tho I don’t know her personally, I could see she thinking like that.
As far as his past life..there’s so much to be talked about but the two things I was thinking this morning is that 1) she is 38 and he is 33 (why she keeps looking for younger men? Lol). 2) I think about all the new teenager fans that she got lately (from Olivia and Billie influence) and how that can impact and influence these children.
Now all I can do is to hope that she doesn’t suffer in his hands. The Avril that we know is the public persona, we don’t know who she is in her private life. Only her close friends/family have the right to give her any opinion/advise. We can worry as fans, but I don’t feel entitled to tell her what she should do or not.
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Post by dustystar05 on Mar 7, 2023 19:54:08 GMT
Cleary not enough for her to turn off her instagram post about MGK, Marilyn Manson etc...i don't remember paragraphs and paragraphs about that on threads in here. You guys are delusional...the not sooo subtle racism is here....whether u like it or not.The LOL u put says much about u on such a sensitive issue. As a black fan i'm out...in all my livelihood as an Avril fan i have NEVER seen such an incendiary and hateful thread about Avril and a guy she just dated. Avril has had her share of shady boyfriends and here we are writing passionately anout someone's wikipedia bio. On your way out grab a dictionary so you can look up what the word “racist” actually means You should cuz u and ur vocabulary with preconceived notions abt rappers and their wikipedia bios clearly does it for u...u are one of many thousands of karens who try to teach me everyday what racist is or isn't.
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 19:58:15 GMT
On your way out grab a dictionary so you can look up what the word “racist” actually means You should cuz u and ur vocabulary with preconceived notions abt rappers and their wikipedia bios clearly does it for u...u are one of many thousands of karens who try to teach me everyday what racist is or isn't. If Wiki won't convince you will his police record? They keep those for offenders no matter what race/colour/faith/orientation they are.
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Post by Lavigne2J on Mar 7, 2023 19:59:20 GMT
The amount of overreaction and ridiculous speculation in this topic is cringe af. None of you really know anything about anything in terms of Avril's private life and her social circle yet are so quick to jump on the negativity bandwagon and make stupid assumptions. Talking like you know her? That you know how she's thinking? Worrying that her career will suffer? Analysing five second clips of her sitting in a chair or walking? Are you serious? Do people not realize how utterly ridiculous this is? If you are speculating to this extent you need to realize you've gone so far beyond obsessive with something that you shouldn't even be concerning yourself with. You've gone so far past it being about her artistry and are creating fiction in your head of how you think she thinks and what is happening in her private life. Everyone needs to take a step back and stop being so obsessed with this because the way some of you are carrying on about this has become really pathetic.
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Post by Hellelujah on Mar 7, 2023 20:06:42 GMT
Mod Sun unfollowed Avril 😬
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Post by DC Lascelle on Mar 7, 2023 20:07:06 GMT
This is a complete aside but my concept for the Avalanche video (and has been been for almost a year now) is Avril performing 'Avalanche' on stage at the Grammy's after being made a persona non-grata by the music industry after something terrible happens to her and she becomes a recluse as a result and this performance is her one shot at redemption. She would perform on stage while huge screens behind her would show the path her career and life took after the aforementioned tragedy occurred and come full circle to her at the Grammy's. By the time her song is over her manager's phone is blowing up with people looking to work with her again.
I'm just wondering if and how Avril may fall because of the Tyga situation.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 7, 2023 20:08:19 GMT
On the contrary, you could also say people who are turning such a blind eye to this and acting like we shouldn’t be concerned are making excuses for a literal criminal. I don’t want to hear it when this sad excuse for a relationship comes inevitably crashing down because all the red flags and warnings were there. She chose not to listen and certain delusional fans chose to enable her. If she is such the “grown woman” you say she is, then she doesn’t need you defending every move she makes.
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