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Post by eismann on Sept 3, 2015 14:04:28 GMT
I have to admit, that my first thought was "thanks god, he wont be the father of her children" when I read about the separation. I dont know why but I never liked them as a couple, they just never had that happy aura that she had with deryck or with brody.
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Post by sadserenade on Sept 3, 2015 14:13:30 GMT
Whaaaaaattt is up with almost every popular couple getting a separation/divorce this season?!
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Should I be ashamed to say that the "evril" fan part of me jumped in relief...
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Post by Dillon on Sept 3, 2015 14:55:20 GMT
I don't stalk the internet for this information either, and generally speaking I don't have the slightest interest in celebrity news. But as it's Avril I guess I care a bit more, and over the past couple of years we've had umpteen threads on Bandaids about something one of them did or said, which usually raised a red flag. I'm not talking about one isolated incident where Chad went to a strip club or whatever, but multiple things which just didn't seem right. There's little point in going over every detail I remember now that they've officially separated, but let's just say that they were a very strange couple and I'm not at all surprised that their marriage wasn't meant to be. True. I was just pointing out that there had been no big red flags recently. The biggest flags were probably the divorce rumors, but they happened a year ago. There just weren't any big signs saying "watch out, look for Avril and Chad's separation coming in the next few weeks". They seemed to be happy and doing fine. I knew there were flags, but little incidents spread out over their entire 2-year marriage doesn't scream "separation" to me. That's all I was saying Perhaps they know their issues but still kept on trying get their flame back by doing dates and other things. I know many couples who are on the way to break up but then again try to get their flame by going out on dates and make t seems like they're madly in love but then they just give up trying Also, just because their spark/flame gradually went out doesn't meant that they both didn't still love each other or enjoy being with each other; which would explain the photos. But in my opinion, the separation doesn't seem like it's necessarily because the love stopped. It seems to me that they had different life goals that didn't match. That mixed with being apart a lot, each being ill at one point, and maybe some other factors too, it may have been easy for them to drift apart. I think that may be why she is doing as well as she is and why she said they'll stay friends; it's like the separation wasn't anybody's direct fault, life just sort of happened and they accept that. That's very mature of them.
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Post by Becky on Sept 3, 2015 14:56:06 GMT
But how could anyone possibly know that? And how do we know she considers them mistakes? Feels like scepticism If we approach this matter that way, we won't be able to make opinions or foresee anything related to Avril.
Even if "human minds are complex things", there are still things called general cases. So I am just saying that it is "likely" for things to turn out that way.
And about Avril considering them as mistakes.... I think Avril did say that 'she is not the marrying kind' when she talked about her first divorce, if I remember correctly.
Being impulsive may not be a bad thing, but it sure isn't a wise action.
I personally just don't think we're in a position to judge her or make assumptions on her personal life when we don't know what happened Oh of course, but there are also those who don't fit the rule. Ah never seen that. Getting married on an impulse sure isn't, but going into a relationship impulsively/making impulsive decisions could end up something special (I'm not saying that it's a good idea, but it isn't always a bad thing). It's part of the fun in life IMO as long as it isn't a big, important decision (ofc marriage is, I just meant generally). Nothing wrong with giving something a chance. It's a funny world.
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Post by TomX on Sept 3, 2015 15:11:04 GMT
I know this might sound selfish, even from me who always supported Chavril from day one, but I hope she uses her divorce and her disease to make one hell of an album..I hope all these experiences she's gone through will set the tone for album 6.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 15:25:35 GMT
True. I was just pointing out that there had been no big red flags recently. The biggest flags were probably the divorce rumors, but they happened a year ago. There just weren't any big signs saying "watch out, look for Avril and Chad's separation coming in the next few weeks". They seemed to be happy and doing fine. I knew there were flags, but little incidents spread out over their entire 2-year marriage doesn't scream "separation" to me. That's all I was saying I'm not even talking about little incidents. They had this bizarre rule which forbade each other to drink when they weren't together, for the specific reason that something might happen when they're hammered (I can't remember the exact way it was worded, but we're all grown-ups here and you get the point). If that doesn't say 'trust issues', then I don't know what does. The best rebuttal anyone had at the time was that it was none of our business. Go figure.
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Post by TomX on Sept 3, 2015 15:35:05 GMT
To think the "Let Me Go" music video plot is now a reality...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:04:32 GMT
To think the "Let Me Go" music video plot is now a reality...
Sadly really became a memorable video, even with all those Sony advertisements
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Post by Kaiye on Sept 3, 2015 16:19:20 GMT
I have my own theory. And I'm just going to take a risk and put it out here.
First of all, as she said, she isn't the marrying kind. It's true.
Second of all, it's been obvious, to me, from the start that Avril has always been a 'difficult' person (and I don't mean this in bad way), and she isn't as easy to deal with personally, as most fans would like to think - a fact that she doesn't care about and not willing to change anyways. She's one of those people who values her autonomy above all. I'm waiting for a day when she writes a song along the lines of "My way or the highway". That kind of mentality isn't for relationships, let alone marriage.
And third of all, whenever she's asked in her interviews what she liked about Chad, her answers were always trifle. "He's a rockstar, he performs, he writes his songs, he's Canadian, he does what I do" aren't legit reasons to marry someone, not to me at least.
The only way I see it working, if she decides to marry again, is if she could find someone who'll live to, love to and marry her JUST to support her taking the lead and do her thing.
Bottom line, I'm just glad this seperation doesn't seem to be striking her very hard. I hope she grows personally and the experience makes her inspired as an artist to release an album to have the world at her feet, S**n.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:29:12 GMT
Feels like scepticism :greenie: If we approach this matter that way, we won't be able to make opinions or foresee anything related to Avril.
Even if "human minds are complex things", there are still things called general cases. So I am just saying that it is "likely" for things to turn out that way.
And about Avril considering them as mistakes.... I think Avril did say that 'she is not the marrying kind' when she talked about her first divorce, if I remember correctly.
Being impulsive may not be a bad thing, but it sure isn't a wise action.
I personally just don't think we're in a position to judge her or make assumptions on her personal life when we don't know what happened :) Oh of course, but there are also those who don't fit the rule. Ah never seen that. Getting married on an impulse sure isn't, but going into a relationship impulsively/making impulsive decisions could end up something special (I'm not saying that it's a good idea, but it isn't always a bad thing). It's part of the fun in life IMO as long as it isn't a big, important decision (ofc marriage is, I just meant generally). Nothing wrong with giving something a chance. It's a funny world.
The part that I don't understand is, are we judging her by generalizing her to other people? And furthermore, is making judgements and predicting her future based on her past actions wrong?
Maybe it's because I come from a country where the saying "judging others is wrong" only exists in bible.
And third marriage is actually unimaginable here. Seen very negatively.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 16:30:19 GMT
The only way I see it working, if she decides to marry again, is if she could find someone who'll live to, love to and marry her JUST to support her taking the lead and do her thing. A tall order in the world of arrogant rock stars (or whatever Brody was).
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Post by Yolandi on Sept 3, 2015 16:30:55 GMT
This is so sad ... guess we'll never know why. And I agree this does seem sudden, unless they have been having problems on and off these past 2 years. And yeah no Chavrli babies! Who knows I actually kinda hope they reconcile. Although I doubt she would take a second divorce litely after going through the first one. But anyway I just wish Avril health and happiness however and wherever she finds it.
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Post by Becky on Sept 3, 2015 16:57:32 GMT
I personally just don't think we're in a position to judge her or make assumptions on her personal life when we don't know what happened Oh of course, but there are also those who don't fit the rule. Ah never seen that. Getting married on an impulse sure isn't, but going into a relationship impulsively/making impulsive decisions could end up something special (I'm not saying that it's a good idea, but it isn't always a bad thing). It's part of the fun in life IMO as long as it isn't a big, important decision (ofc marriage is, I just meant generally). Nothing wrong with giving something a chance. It's a funny world.
The part that I don't understand is, are we judging her by generalizing her to other people? And furthermore, is making judgements and predicting her future based on her past actions wrong?
Maybe it's because I come from a country where the saying "judging others is wrong" only exists in bible.
And third marriage is actually unimaginable here. Seen very negatively.
It's just my personal opinion, I don't like or think it's right to judge people when we don't know what happened/the full story. There's nothing wrong with generalizing per se, I was just saying that obviously it doesn't always follow the trend. As for making judgments and predicting her future based on past actions, it's not wrong but I think it can be a little unfair. People change and ofc we don't know the circumstances. Sorry I just have a strong opinion on this, I don't like being judged when people don't know the facts and hence I try not to do it to others. Ah fair enough, I guess people would judge her here, but personally I just couldn't care less. She could get married 5 times and I wouldn't care, it's her life.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 17:00:34 GMT
I have my own theory. And I'm just going to take a risk and put it out here. First of all, as she said, she isn't the marrying kind. It's true. Second of all, it's been obvious, to me, from the start that Avril has always been a 'difficult' person (and I don't mean this in bad way), and she isn't as easy to deal with personally, as most fans would like to think - a fact that she doesn't care about and not willing to change anyways. She's one of those people who values her autonomy above all. I'm waiting for a day when she writes a song along the lines of "My way or the highway". That kind of mentality isn't for relationships, let alone marriage. And third of all, whenever she's asked in her interviews what she liked about Chad, her answers were always trifle. "He's a rockstar, he performs, he writes his songs, he's Canadian, he does what I do" aren't legit reasons to marry someone, not to me at least. The only way I see it working, if she decides to marry again, is if she could find someone who'll live to, love to and marry her JUST to support her taking the lead and do her thing. Bottom line, I'm just glad this seperation doesn't seem to be striking her very hard. I hope she grows personally and the experience makes her inspired as an artist to release an album to have the world at her feet, S**n. Agreed! I feel they both publicised/sold the hell out of there wedding/engagement too, which I thought was a little 'off' for someone like Avril who claims to be a super private person. Every interview (promoting HTNGU & Album 5) was almost as though Avril was viewing her wedding to Chad as a big party. "I'm gonna go big this time, there's a theme." Whenever they were giving interviews it seemed as though Chad was the grown up (which is kind of a given considering he's 10+ years older than Av) almost like her dad or brother Anyway it is what it is, they fell in love and married and two years later they are separated. It never worked and for whatever reason, only Chavril know.
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Post by Jack on Sept 3, 2015 17:10:30 GMT
I know this might sound selfish, even from me who always supported Chavril from day one, but I hope she uses her divorce and her disease to make one hell of an album..I hope all these experiences she's gone through will set the tone for album 6. It is a bit selfish, but at least she would make something good out of those situations. I would want she released "one hell of an album" without having to "rely" on negative events in her life to release good albums, while she isn't really able to do that when she's in a happy period of her life.
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