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Post by cefh on May 30, 2024 3:28:25 GMT
A concert with +90min? I'm shocked
tbh I'm satisfied, that's great for her standards... bullying helps sometimes lol
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 3:33:59 GMT
Adding short clips of songs then shortening existing songs really isn’t adding anything at all is it? I don’t mind her doing shorter versions but like others have said, why are fans acting like she’s doing 18 songs? She absolutely isn’t. I honestly just don’t understand how she plans her tours. She rehearses for weeks then chops and changes the setlist a bunch of times during the first 4 shows? Are they literally just rehearsing the bare minimum she thinks she can get away with then caving to pressure after it starts - but not really caving at all because she’s just about added a full song if you add them all together? Why doesn’t she just plan a proper setlist from the start? It’s SO unfair on fans who are all getting different length sets, and surely a pain in the arse for her and her band to change things every show? Honestly it’s just screaming pure laziness and “what’s the least I can get away with doing?”. Theres a million comments on Twitter about how she doesn’t even look like she wants to be there and I don’t disagree from what I’ve seen (…this applies to some previous tours too!). Certain fans on Twitter etc need to stop enabling her and acting like she’s doing us a favour. This setlist should be 20 songs - if some of those are shorter versions then fine, but I’m talking verse/chorus/bridge/chorus, not 15 seconds. Lol. She doesn’t just walk on stage, sing and leave. If you notice the production behind her, all times, video montages, etc- all of that is part of the SHOW. That’s what she’s rehearsing. Not merely sound checking for weeks. I didn’t mean that and you know it lol - I’m aware of what rehearsals are
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 30, 2024 3:38:37 GMT
Seems like last night was a good show, but I'm still not 100% sure on the setlist. It's cool that she's adding a few songs (on her own way) but she can push.mp3 a little more.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 3:58:30 GMT
Just watched a bit of the video from the last show - the stage set up is actually pretty cool imo. The intro video at the start too - I like when all her album covers etc flash up towards the end
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 4:58:45 GMT
Things are getting much harder because of the fans. This fanbase is behaving incredibly toxically, especially fans from Brazil (who aren't even there) trying to make hate videos go viral. I don't think this is healthy behavior for a fanbase. Requesting more songs is one thing, but LITERALLY bullying (not metaphorically or humorously) is horrible.
Avril has never been a huge or highly skilled performer on stage... just take off the nostalgia goggles and see how she's always been shy and serious.
She NEVER put on a flashy performance!
Request as many songs as you want, it's understandable, but just stop talking about her way of being, her body moves, and her stage presence. Criticizing these personal aspects is unnecessary and harmful. Sorry, but I don't support and I will never support this hateful behavior. And I think fans shouldn't allow it as well.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 5:32:09 GMT
Agree she’s never been a great performer and I don’t expect that to change. I do understand what people are saying about her looking like she doesn’t even want to be there in (some!) videos though. I don’t think that’s particularly unfair to comment on, but it’s not a huge issue imo. If she sorted the setlist (properly, and ideally have had it from the start) I think this tour would be great. I like the staging, the montages are cool (other than that way too long HAW one!), I like the idea of an GH tour, and apart from the opening night her performances seem fine.
I haven’t seen ‘hate videos’ etc from fans but yeah, nobody should be taking it too far. I do think she’s doing the bare minimum with the setlist and trying her luck with it a little, but I think that’s out of lack of will to push herself to do anything different, not any particular malice.
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Post by melissavandella on May 30, 2024 5:45:38 GMT
A slightly critical review, the author claims that the crowd outshined Avri (they were more energetic) and that she couldn't keep up with them during her upbeat set. He claims that she shines in her ballads and mid-tempos though. "The show felt like Avril Lavigne karaoke. And if you asked me under oath, I couldn’t tell if her guitar was actually plugged in during a rendition of My Happy Ending." www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/sf-bay-area-avril-lavigne-shoreline-19484938.php
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 5:57:38 GMT
An opportune video about how Avril used to deliver willpower, excitement, and star-quality performances at the beginning of her career, when she was supposedly much better than she is nowadays, because only now has she become lazy and unenergetic on stage: x.com/fwrgotten/status/1795930932903338048Oh, nostalgia goggles. Imagine how many hearts you would break and how many disappointments you would generate when people took you off and saw that the truth has been there for 22 years, but they chose to believe in illusions instead.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 6:04:38 GMT
To be fair, I don’t think anyone has claimed she’s ever been a great enthusiastic performer and compared it to old shows? And whilst I understand why people comment on it because she often DOES look bored on stage, it really is the least important issue here lol. We KNOW she’s been like this for a lot of her career, she’s never been a particularly enthusiastic performer. But this tour is bringing in people who haven’t necessarily seen her before so it’s completely fair they’re noticing and commenting on it
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 6:18:10 GMT
To be fair, I don’t think anyone has claimed she’s ever been a great enthusiastic performer and compared it to old shows? And whilst I understand why people comment on it because she often DOES look bored on stage, it really is the least important issue here lol. We KNOW she’s been like this for a lot of her career, she’s never been a particularly enthusiastic performer. But this tour is bringing in people who haven’t necessarily seen her before so it’s completely fair they’re noticing and commenting on it Are you on Twitter, Instagram, or even here on Bandaids? A lot of people are comparing her current performance to her old shows... lol I won't start a flame war by quoting anyone, though. But this is a pretty common behavior in this fanbase. By the way, on Twitter, a lot of hate is being spread BY FANS. Which is funny because on TikTok, where she has more casual followers, she's being praised and that's what is making her streams rise above. It makes me think that this is all about her fans suddenly expecting her to be on Pink or whatever. "Lazy" and "lack of energy" are already part of the lexicon of this fandom. It's also funny how people count 40-something songs for The Eras even if they're shortened, but when Avril does the same, "it doesn't count." Fans are always harsh on her.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 6:27:56 GMT
To be fair, I don’t think anyone has claimed she’s ever been a great enthusiastic performer and compared it to old shows? And whilst I understand why people comment on it because she often DOES look bored on stage, it really is the least important issue here lol. We KNOW she’s been like this for a lot of her career, she’s never been a particularly enthusiastic performer. But this tour is bringing in people who haven’t necessarily seen her before so it’s completely fair they’re noticing and commenting on it Are you on Twitter, Instagram, or even here on Bandaids? A lot of people are comparing her current performance to her old shows... lol I won't start a flame war by quoting anyone, though. But this is a pretty common behavior in this fanbase. By the way, on Twitter, a lot of hate is being spread BY FANS. Which is funny because on TikTok, where she has more casual followers, she's being praised and that's what is making her streams rise above. It makes me think that this is all about her fans suddenly expecting her to be on Pink or whatever. "Lazy" and "lack of energy" are already part of the lexicon of this fandom. It's also funny how people count 40-something songs for The Eras even if they're shortened, but when Avril does the same, "it doesn't count." Fans are always harsh on her. haha not really, I don’t follow any fan pages or anything on social media because I find them quite irritating I agree there’s no use comparing to old shows - she’s never blown anyone away with her performances (maybe a handful have been great), but people will comment on her looking bored sometimes because it is just fact, even if it’s been the case for years and years Whilst nobody should be expecting the eras tour from her (or from any artist really, it’s insanely long), it’s fair to shorten songs when you’re playing 40+ (though as far as I’m aware she’s not shortening any on the eras tour to like, less than a verse/bridge/chorus?). Avril could do 18-20 full length songs but chooses not to. If she wants to do 20 and shorten a couple then fine, but don’t shorten them down to 20 seconds long or just a verse and chorus. Give us verse/chorus/bridge/chorus so it’s still a decent amount of the song. Less than 20 seconds of Hot isn’t counting towards the setlist let’s be honest
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Post by gabbox on May 30, 2024 6:37:05 GMT
A slightly critical review, the author claims that the crowd outshined Avri (they were more energetic) and that she couldn't keep up with them during her upbeat set. He claims that she shines in her ballads and mid-tempos though. "The show felt like Avril Lavigne karaoke. And if you asked me under oath, I couldn’t tell if her guitar was actually plugged in during a rendition of My Happy Ending." www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/sf-bay-area-avril-lavigne-shoreline-19484938.phpThe guitar is clearly not plugged, she just pretends to play it, that my doubt too! Also in the first night or 2nd, I don’t remember, her hair was so long it touched the chords, how can you play that if that was real? Sound would be distorted.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 7:08:46 GMT
A slightly critical review, the author claims that the crowd outshined Avri (they were more energetic) and that she couldn't keep up with them during her upbeat set. He claims that she shines in her ballads and mid-tempos though. "The show felt like Avril Lavigne karaoke. And if you asked me under oath, I couldn’t tell if her guitar was actually plugged in during a rendition of My Happy Ending." www.sfgate.com/sf-culture/article/sf-bay-area-avril-lavigne-shoreline-19484938.phpI think this is why a lot of people would really like her to incorporate a short acoustic set again. Her upbeat songs are fun and of course she’s always going to play them, but she sounds SO good when it’s just her and a guitar or piano. Thats when her vocals really shine and she connects with the crowd, along with ballads like IWY. Plus it gives her a little break from feeling like she needs to give us “energy”. Shes such a talented singer but her upbeat songs don’t really showcase that live - along with not giving much of a performance alongside them, I can see how they fall a little flat sometimes (maybe not flat but you know, not showcasing her at her best)
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Post by aia on May 30, 2024 7:56:41 GMT
So Paramore only have 9 songs for their 2024 tour. Well Avril is way better. The problem with Avril is 90% of her songs list always same on every tour, that's why her fans feels 15 songs is not enough.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 8:09:07 GMT
So Paramore only have 9 songs for their 2024 tour. Well Avril is way better. The problem with Avril is 90% of her songs list always same on every tour, that's why her fans feels 15 songs is not enough. That’s their setlist opening for Taylor, not their tour
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