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Post by BogoGog24 on May 30, 2024 11:38:22 GMT
I honestly think there is some reason why she is sticking to a 75-90 min set and is not willing to go over, whether it’s due to her stamina or a venue restriction that she’s done by a certain time or whatever. And her compromise is to “add” songs but only short versions that don’t really make the show much longer but it allows fans to hear more songs. That’s the only explanation I can think of why she’s only adding bits and pieces of songs and not playing them in full.
I’m ok with shortened versions (like we don’t need that second verse of Smile honestly) but I agree only the chorus of a song is too short. And yeah fan pages need to stop presenting it as though she’s doing an 18 song setlist, I remember they’d do the same when the HK video would get played while she was offstage and they’d count it as a song in the setlist even though she wasn’t even onstage lol
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 30, 2024 13:15:14 GMT
I was curious to see if the venue I’m going to has anything about noise ordinances. The closest thing I found is this article from 2014 talking about a different venue but I think it has interesting info regarding curfews and fines: www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/xfinity-center-fined-for-two-shows-that-went-past-curfew/article_511f6eda-fd40-11e3-a284-0019bb2963f4.html“Under the Xfinity Center’s entertainment license, the town charges Live Nation, the company that owns and operates the venue, $1.25 per person every hour that shows run past a curfew of 11 p.m.” Found some similar info on a forum that said something about a fee of 50 cents per person for every extra minute it goes over under 15 minutes or something, then they start charging by the hour and the fee per person increases. So I am wondering if Avril must be done by 11 or so or else she gets fined. What they could have done was only have one opener instead of two or start the openers earlier so Avril could play longer but I guess with the way it is now there’s not a lot they can do. They can’t exactly axe one of the openers after already inviting them on the tour lol
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Post by metam on May 30, 2024 13:18:06 GMT
Why don't she sing medley of her songs that she never played live before as surprise or just simply medley of her songs other than her singles. Like what she did when she sang at Ardy's (2019).
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Post by gabbox on May 30, 2024 13:30:35 GMT
If there's a curfew she can just have 1 opener per night, or starting a few minutes earlier.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 13:40:36 GMT
Yeah curfews aren’t problems for other artists setlist lengths, they just plan support and start times around it. Or she could do us a favour and cut that insanely long and boring HAW intro she’s reusing from the LS tour. She just can’t be bothered with longer setlists lets be honest lol
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 30, 2024 13:51:12 GMT
I just watched the last show on youtube and her vocals were really on point. The losing grip performance (an intro with her talking to the audience) was my favorite part of the show. She just shines so much singing this song. I'm glad it's on the setlist
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Post by gabbox on May 30, 2024 14:05:02 GMT
Also I don't want to sound insensitive but she literally gives too much room to the opening acts.
During the Love Sux tour dates I attended, I noticed 2 opening acts are too much in my opinion, and as if it wasn't enough, she even called them back on stage again to do the Blink 182 cover and she even went backstage and left them playing on stage.
Now she's basically doing the same thing with the All Time Low, and while I personally found both Phem and Girlfriends sets nice last year, I absolutely don't care and I didn't pay so much money for a ticket to see them, not only before but also during Avril's own show, it's too much to be honest and I think no other superstar gives so much room to opening acts
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 14:10:00 GMT
Also I don't want to sound insensitive but she literally gives too much room to the opening acts. During the Love Sux tour dates I attended, I noticed 2 opening acts are too much in my opinion, and as if it wasn't enough, she even called them back on stage again to do the Blink 182 cover and she even went backstage and left them playing on stage. Now she's basically doing the same thing with the All Time Low, and while I personally found both Phem and Girlfriends sets nice last year, I absolutely don't care and I didn't pay so much money for a ticket to see them, not only before but also during Avril's own show, it's too much to be honest and I think no other superstar gives so much room to opening acts Yeah I agree. I remember her leaving the support acts on stage at my show last year whilst she disappeared for a few mins. I know she’s all about having fun with her friends but do we really need FAH on her GH tour? It’s not even her song.
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 14:42:43 GMT
Also I don't want to sound insensitive but she literally gives too much room to the opening acts. During the Love Sux tour dates I attended, I noticed 2 opening acts are too much in my opinion, and as if it wasn't enough, she even called them back on stage again to do the Blink 182 cover and she even went backstage and left them playing on stage. Now she's basically doing the same thing with the All Time Low, and while I personally found both Phem and Girlfriends sets nice last year, I absolutely don't care and I didn't pay so much money for a ticket to see them, not only before but also during Avril's own show, it's too much to be honest and I think no other superstar gives so much room to opening acts This type of criticism is definitely NOT insensitive, and I think it's always welcomed to present our perspectives about how she can put on a better concert for fans. Pointing out things to change in terms of the organization of the show, setlist, stage, instrumentations, vocals, tech stuff, etc., is totally understandable. It's not like saying random and subjective things like "lack of energy," "laziness," or talking about her moves, body, facial expressions, the way she 'dances', and doubting the smallest possibility of her health status interference on her performance etc... because all of this is subjective, stupid, and unfair. Artists like Ed Sheeran and Shawn Mendes put on their shows with minimal effort and everybody praises them. I don't want to play a social justice warrior, but being a female makes some Avril fans excessively critical and unfair in their expectations compared to some of her peers. You are not doing this! And I agree with you. I think she could've play more and give less space to the openers. But I also think that was strategically chosen. Pop rock/punk/rock artists in general have more openers. MGK also had 2 openers. Fall Out Boy also had two or even 3 openers for each concert.
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Post by aia on May 30, 2024 15:07:35 GMT
I think it's an upgrade Avril invited 2 fans into the stage, take pictures with them and give them skateboards. But it's not on every shows (they should do it on every shows). And I think the song choice is bad, she invited them and sing together with them in Fake As Hell time, the fans, especially teen fans may not know the lyrics.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 15:23:12 GMT
I think it's an upgrade Avril invited 2 fans into the stage, take pictures with them and give them skateboards. But it's not on every shows (they should do it on every shows). And I think the song choice is bad, she invited them and sing together with them in Fake As Hell time, the fans, especially teen fans may not know the lyrics. Agree - it’s a nice touch to get some people up and take pics etc. but yeah, during FAH is not the best time to do it - it’d be better during one of her own songs. I kinda get why she’s doing it then, with her friends up on stage and more of a party atmosphere, but I’d guess a lot of the audience don’t really know FAH very well
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Post by blackmage on May 30, 2024 15:31:40 GMT
I think it's an upgrade Avril invited 2 fans into the stage, take pictures with them and give them skateboards. But it's not on every shows (they should do it on every shows). And I think the song choice is bad, she invited them and sing together with them in Fake As Hell time, the fans, especially teen fans may not know the lyrics. Agree - it’s a nice touch to get some people up and take pics etc. but yeah, during FAH is not the best time to do it - it’d be better during one of her own songs. I kinda get why she’s doing it then, with her friends up on stage and more of a party atmosphere, but I’d guess a lot of the audience don’t really know FAH very well I think it's because during her own songs, fans in the crowd can focus solely on her and can sing along. While during FAH, they might not be as familiar with the song, making it a less engaging moment for the broader audience. So when fans hit the stage during, she can create a more dynamic moment and avoid boredom, idk... Then, during her own songs, the focus remains exclusively on Avril, and keep the connection with the whole audience but keeping the spotlight just on her.
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Post by katy on May 30, 2024 15:33:52 GMT
Agree - it’s a nice touch to get some people up and take pics etc. but yeah, during FAH is not the best time to do it - it’d be better during one of her own songs. I kinda get why she’s doing it then, with her friends up on stage and more of a party atmosphere, but I’d guess a lot of the audience don’t really know FAH very well I think it's because during her own songs, fans in the crowd can focus solely on her and can sing along. While during FAH, they might not be as familiar with the song, making it a less engaging moment for the broader audience. So when fans hit the stage during, she can create a more dynamic moment and avoid boredom, idk... Then, during her own songs, the focus remains exclusively on Avril, and keep the connection with the whole audience but keeping the spotlight just on her. Yeah it could be. But then also if she knows fans will be bored during FAH, replace it with a song we all know (Nobody’s Home hint hint nudge nudge Avril xx)
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Post by giveuwhatulike on May 30, 2024 15:34:21 GMT
The FAH part is very awkward to me, she sings the song in such a boring way. The fun part is just the introduction with them on the phone
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2024 15:43:46 GMT
It’s hard watching her perform FAH this way when we know she can absolutely ace the harmony live (as she did at When We Were Young fest). It would be awesome if she brought up fans to sing Complicated with her- it would be an awesome full circle moment from her first tour!
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