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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 26, 2024 15:57:25 GMT
I've removed a post discussing a download link. Reminder - no download links. YouTube, etc. only! I get where you are coming from, but my post was just about the video from YouTube which isn’t on YouTube anymore. Nothing illegal, not from any other place. But sure I get that you are careful. Yes but discussing downloading the video and then sharing it via WeTransfer I think follows the same idea as download links. It's essentially downloading and sharing material we don't own, which is why sharing social media links is ok because you're not downloading anything. Does that make sense?
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Post by avocadil on Jun 26, 2024 18:14:54 GMT
Even though fans have formed many negative impressions of Avril's brother, I believe it's part of his job to be tough, especially since he's responsible for her security team. I really admire it when major artists have their families involved, like Avril and Taylor. Just look at how badly involved Britney and Beyoncé's parents were and are with them, ugh. I can't even imagine how it must feel to be that close to her when she's performing. When I attended the LS Tour, I got so close to the stage but couldn't see her face clearly, although I did notice how tiny and cute she is. So lovely! I also noticed some backstage action. At one point, she was about to change outfits and seemed so hot that she started taking it off as soon as she came out from the front of the stage, so those of us on the sides of the crowd could see how desperate and clumsy she was with it. It's interesting to see they behaving like 'normal human beings'. Why do fans have formed negative impressions about her brother? Just curious because I always thought he'd be a fan favorite.
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Post by shessolucky on Jun 26, 2024 18:28:32 GMT
Even though fans have formed many negative impressions of Avril's brother, I believe it's part of his job to be tough, especially since he's responsible for her security team. I really admire it when major artists have their families involved, like Avril and Taylor. Just look at how badly involved Britney and Beyoncé's parents were and are with them, ugh. I can't even imagine how it must feel to be that close to her when she's performing. When I attended the LS Tour, I got so close to the stage but couldn't see her face clearly, although I did notice how tiny and cute she is. So lovely! I also noticed some backstage action. At one point, she was about to change outfits and seemed so hot that she started taking it off as soon as she came out from the front of the stage, so those of us on the sides of the crowd could see how desperate and clumsy she was with it. It's interesting to see they behaving like 'normal human beings'. Why do fans have formed negative impressions about her brother? Just curious because I always thought he'd be a fan favorite. Wondering too. Never heard or saw anything negative about him. He always appeared very nice when I saw him.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 26, 2024 19:03:02 GMT
I've never heard any fans say anything negative about her brother to be honest. He's been with her since day 1, he accompanied her in New York when she was starting to work on LG and has been head of her security team since at least TBDT era I think. There has never been any reason for fans to dislike him, I guess maybe some fans might if they tried to get too close to Avril or something and he might have done something, that's all I can think of. I think most fans really appreciate him and admire his and Amie's relationship with Avril, it's clear Avril values it too.
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Post by afonso16 on Jun 26, 2024 20:29:09 GMT
I've never heard any fans say anything negative about her brother to be honest. He's been with her since day 1, he accompanied her in New York when she was starting to work on LG and has been head of her security team since at least TBDT era I think. There has never been any reason for fans to dislike him, I guess maybe some fans might if they tried to get too close to Avril or something and he might have done something, that's all I can think of. I think most fans really appreciate him and admire his and Amie's relationship with Avril, it's clear Avril values it too. That's the criticism I have heard against him, that sometimes he's too hostile towards fans and prevents them from meeting Avril... but he's just doing his job and I bet some of those fans act like freaks when they're around her.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Jun 26, 2024 21:36:33 GMT
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Post by oneofthoseguys on Jun 26, 2024 22:53:33 GMT
Why do fans have formed negative impressions about her brother? Just curious because I always thought he'd be a fan favorite. Wondering too. Never heard or saw anything negative about him. He always appeared very nice when I saw him. Well, here in Brazil, everybody said that he was rude with fans during her very expensive and super quick meet and greet in 2014. Sometimes, Avril tried to get closer to some fans to take the photos. By the way, this event had an impressive bad press here. I have a lot of friends who were there in different cities and everyone said the same thing about him.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 26, 2024 23:44:07 GMT
I think people have unrealistic expectations about security. They’re not generally super nice people, they’re there to protect the artist and they don’t know who’s a dangerous person and who isn’t, so they just assume everyone is. If something happened, they’d be fired and possibly worse since it was their job to protect. Of course they are going to take it seriously. They can’t afford to take chances.
I remember seeing a video online of a girl who chased Taylor Swift’s car down the street and the security guard said he would kill her if she ever came that close again, some fans said they thought he overreacted while others said it makes sense he said it considering she chased the car. We honestly don’t know what kinds of interactions Avril has had with fans over the years, most fans are perfectly respectful when meeting her but there have likely been a few weirdos. Can’t be too careful.
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Post by blackmage on Jun 27, 2024 1:03:31 GMT
I watched a video from a Brazilian YouTuber who said she attended that meet and greet with Avril. She mentioned that Avril hugged her, but her brother slapped (though gently) the youtuber hand, which was placed on Avril's back. I don't think people dislike him just for doing his job. It might be more about how he interacts with fans, especially during meet and greets when fans have already gone through security checks and paid a lot of money. That being said, I believe it's fair to be thorough and ensure their jobs are done properly. If I were an artist, I would do the same, but I would also try to avoid the idea of my team being perceveid as rude for my fans. But this is a minor mistake. That's his job at the end of the day, and not just a job since he is also her brother.
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Post by sam on Jun 27, 2024 1:06:13 GMT
I've removed a post discussing a download link. Reminder - no download links. YouTube, etc. only! I get where you are coming from, but my post was just about the video from YouTube which isn’t on YouTube anymore. Nothing illegal, not from any other place. But sure I get that you are careful. The other issue is that this forum is hosted on ProBoards which has its own content policies etc. Therefore we are usually quite strict with things like these because we don't want to lose the platform we are on. It's a small risk, but one we take seriously.
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Post by TomX on Jun 27, 2024 1:21:22 GMT
I was one of the fans from those M&Gs back in 2014, in Argentina. It was quite a horrible experience overall by the way it was handled. The crew treated us like garbage and basically threw all of our gifts away which were supposedly going to be given to her later. The M&G was less than 10 seconds long, and while she was super sweet and greeted me, I placed my arm behind her for a photo without touching her (I already knew the whole not touching/not hugging rule) and Matt quickly swept my arm down. I was a bit disappointed I was treated like that after having paid over $300 for what was supposed to be a proper Meet and Greet experience. I was terrified at that point and petrified lol, but she came a bit closer for my second photo and was very sweet.
I think Matt was just looking out for her and didn't want anyone to play dumb and grab her or do something uncalled for. Besides, in retrospect, she was quite sick already at that time. She actually cut the show short for "safety first" reasons we know now. So, I can see that as a potential reason for them being so cautious.
Not related to this topic, but does anyone know if tomorrows concert be livestreamed? Or any for that matter before Glastonbury?
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Post by melissavandella on Jun 27, 2024 7:22:16 GMT
It would be nice for her fans if she could expand her tour to Latin America and Asia. A greatest hits tour and then playing on only two continents is lame. It doesn't have to be something major, but Japan and some SEA countries and Mexico, Argentina and Brazil should be doable for her.
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Post by orangesky on Jun 27, 2024 9:26:13 GMT
It would be nice for her fans if she could expand her tour to Latin America and Asia. A greatest hits tour and then playing on only two continents is lame. It doesn't have to be something major, but Japan and some SEA countries and Mexico, Argentina and Brazil should be doable for her. I feel like I saw her like or respond on a comment about performing in China. I think she'll add more dates but probably for late this year or early next year
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Post by snapshot on Jun 27, 2024 10:39:49 GMT
I was one of the fans from those M&Gs back in 2014, in Argentina. It was quite a horrible experience overall by the way it was handled. The crew treated us like garbage and basically threw all of our gifts away which were supposedly going to be given to her later. The M&G was less than 10 seconds long, and while she was super sweet and greeted me, I placed my arm behind her for a photo without touching her (I already knew the whole not touching/not hugging rule) and Matt quickly swept my arm down. I was a bit disappointed I was treated like that after having paid over $300 for what was supposed to be a proper Meet and Greet experience. I was terrified at that point and petrified lol, but she came a bit closer for my second photo and was very sweet. I think Matt was just looking out for her and didn't want anyone to play dumb and grab her or do something uncalled for. Besides, in retrospect, she was quite sick already at that time. She actually cut the show short for "safety first" reasons we know now. So, I can see that as a potential reason for them being so cautious. Not related to this topic, but does anyone know if tomorrows concert be livestreamed? Or any for that matter before Glastonbury? Glastonbury is streamed live on BBC here in the Uk and then can be watched later on BBC I player. From what I remember with previous years, only certain acts or parts of their set are live streamed but you can catch up on the whole set from the BBC I player the following day or week.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jun 27, 2024 12:40:41 GMT
Wow that’s awful, I had no idea they were that strict. I only remember when researching this topic apparently she did address it in an interview and said there had been past incidents with fans in Brazil, etc. and they were “very frisky.” I don’t think it’s ok that they took those experiences and generalized the entire country and assumed all fans will act like that, but maybe that was their line of thinking at the time. She seems more relaxed with meet and greets now, even stopping outside her bus and signing autographs, taking pics, etc. for free. Security is still present of course, but not as strict.
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