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Post by aprilvineyard on May 23, 2024 16:08:58 GMT
Ooooooh. Well. I'm glad they invested more in the production. I like the little throwbacks they added with her logos on the side of the stage. I was impressed and i LOVE it. Nothing to say here. Her outfits now. They're literally pretty much the same than what she wore at my venue on the LS Tour. I was expecting something different, something more. I am particularly deceived ? No, because i knew she wasn't going to do like Katy Perry (which by the way, is just WOW live). Also, can we talk about the goddamn too long extensions (again!) ? Like, they're so long, that, even if the outfits were all new and wow, we wouldn't even be able to see the whole thing because of all the hair. They're much longer, urk. After catching up on everything, what makes me the saddest overall is the setlist. I was hoping for Keep Holding On so bad. And Breakaway! I don't mind Nobody's Home not being there because i never heard DTM and HW live, so it still feels new to me. But then, again, is she gonna eventually remove them? Maybe. I agree with you all, a celebration tour shouldn't be so short. It's nothing really new than what she performed last tour ... In fact, why did she perform mostly singles last tour and it was called Love Sux Tour when in reality she's now playing pretty much the same as back then. Something is so weird here. I agree, she never performs anything that she speaks about. UGH! I really don't understand the lack of energy either. I mean, she used to be so full of energy during Bonez Tour and even The Best Damn Tour seemed pretty diversified, but as of now, she's indeed not moving alot.. sometimes, i even wonder if she's not simply bored. But then i remember she mentioned about wanting to have whole singles based tour.. then i'm like, she can't be bored. What i'm seeing is, she has the energy since a few years, to go skateboarding with her team afterwards and even before, play games here and there with them, partying and drinking late but NEVER to offer energy on stage. This is what I mean by her being disrespectful. She doesn't prioritize her work, but she expects us to still support her and pay top dollar. She's a millionaire from our support and this is what she comes up with. |
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Post by TomX on May 23, 2024 16:11:50 GMT
There's definitely a lot of negative thoughts surrounding this opening night. But let's see how it goes.
Pros:
- Upped production. The screens look amazing, and you can tell they've invested a lot and it's an improvement from the BST, AL, HAW tours altogether. I think it's slightly better than the LS Tour as well.
- Themed sets. I liked how she grouped the songs into different sections, starting with her pop hits with the TBDT theme, going into her more rock-oriented and pop-punk tracks, and ending in a ballad encore set. There are logos and references everywhere on screen and on the stage (Crossbones TBDT logo, neon UMS logo lights, Love Sux heart icon).
-UMS appreciation. We can definitely see her showing this album some love. Though she hasn't said anything about it turning 20, it got its own themed set, and an entire outfit inspired by that era. We got a small "Eras Tour" section for it, and as an UMS fan, I really like that she did this. Not even LG got its own set. which I'm surprised with. She even displayed her iconic UMS album cover jacket on the VIP section backstage.
-New intro. Instead of getting a rehash of the Bad Reputation intro, we got a new instrumental with a lot of cool new graphics and logos, album covers and single covers getting displayed on the screens. I think it adds nice touch.
-Same setlist for all dates. Not saying this is guaranteed, but I think that 15 songs is literally the bare minimum she gives us, and perhaps she decided to make it shorter from the start to give everyone the same show. I don't think she'll further scrap songs, other than maybe including Breakaway here and there and replacing FAH with a Green Day cover when they're not opening for her.
Cons:
-The themed set is a great idea, but I would've swapped some songs to make them fit the theme better. I think Complicated could've been next to Sk8erBoi later on the show, and WYG could've been pushed to either the ballad encore or the first part of the show, which had a TBDT theme. I think there's room for improvement there.
-Energy. I don't think there's much to say here. It's pretty much a standard at this point. But it's sad we don't get a bit more from her, knowing what she's capable of.
-Vocals. I'll give her the benefit of doubt on this one, since I think she's having vocal issues based on the videos I've seen. But if she's going back to her weird 2011-2014 accent, it's a terrible step back from what she had been delivering these past years.
-Setlist. It's missing at least an acoustic set, in which she could easily add NH and a surprise song or a single she hasn't performed in a while. I think that would leave a lot of people more pleased with the setlist overall.
-She needs to rehearse more. She forgot the lyrics to HTNGU on the second verse. I think it's ok if she messes up here and there, but she needs to commit more to what she's offering to the public and not mess up the lyrics, let alone of one of her lead singles.
That's all I can think of for now.
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Post by whateverjustaname on May 23, 2024 16:13:07 GMT
Complaints about the setlist I get 100%
But:
Energy - from what I’ve seen it was more than her usual energy, I thought you were used to that by now
Vocals - I also didn’t think they were terrible, awful or anything bad. Sure she missed it dodged a note here or there, but it still sounded good enough to me. Still much better than many other live singers!
Outfits - is it something new? No, but it’s very much her and she’s changing Outfits, she didn’t change during Love Sux shows.
The accent or weird way of singing some words? - gosh let her have some silly fun. She’s singing those songs for years, I think it’s funny when she does that and it’s not that she sings every word like that.
From what I’ve seen, people who were at the show actually enjoyed it a lot and only really criticize the length, which is understandable.
Yes it wasn’t her best show ever, but to me it looks far from the car crash some of you make it out to be.
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Post by aprilvineyard on May 23, 2024 16:15:33 GMT
Sorry to bitch too much but I have to say. It is NOT ACCEPTABLE to be hungover to the point where your show sucks. Normal, regular everyday people are spending their hard earned money that THEY NEED on her. She does not need their money. They need their money.. Some people are just saying maybe she's hungover. That's not an acceptable excuse. She's a professional. I just had to say. Maybe there's a different excuse but like oneofthoseguys says, she's been this way for years.
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Post by mondragon on May 23, 2024 16:18:34 GMT
I’m due to see her next month in Manchester. I wasn’t going to check bandaids to see what her setlist was last night and wanted to be surprised. I’m glad I did now cos now I won’t be disappointed. What an actual joke. I seen a clip posted on her insta singing complicated and she sounds crap. Come on, sort it out. It’s just embarrassing now. Is there some suggestion she was hungover?
Maybe she’s got a problem with the drink. Plus the setlist is exactly the same as last year. Where’s her passion? She’s a fraud. She speaks about how she is happy to still be performing and making music. Well why don’t you try looking like it?!!!
Also Simple Plan are the support act when I see her. Cue a cover of Blinks All the Small Things. ZZzZzzzz
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 23, 2024 16:21:38 GMT
Yeah if the reason for poor performance is that she’s hungover, there’s just no words. That’s blatantly disrespectful to the fans by showing up purposely not in top performance condition. If she’s ill or something, different story.
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 23, 2024 17:45:11 GMT
There's definitely a lot of negative thoughts surrounding this opening night. But let's see how it goes. Pros: - Upped production. The screens look amazing, and you can tell they've invested a lot and it's an improvement from the BST, AL, HAW tours altogether. I think it's slightly better than the LS Tour as well. - Themed sets. I liked how she grouped the songs into different sections, starting with her pop hits with the TBDT theme, going into her more rock-oriented and pop-punk tracks, and ending in a ballad encore set. There are logos and references everywhere on screen and on the stage (Crossbones TBDT logo, neon UMS logo lights, Love Sux heart icon). -UMS appreciation. We can definitely see her showing this album some love. Though she hasn't said anything about it turning 20, it got its own themed set, and an entire outfit inspired by that era. We got a small "Eras Tour" section for it, and as an UMS fan, I really like that she did this. Not even LG got its own set. which I'm surprised with. She even displayed her iconic UMS album cover jacket on the VIP section backstage. -New intro. Instead of getting a rehash of the Bad Reputation intro, we got a new instrumental with a lot of cool new graphics and logos, album covers and single covers getting displayed on the screens. I think it adds nice touch. -Same setlist for all dates. Not saying this is guaranteed, but I think that 15 songs is literally the bare minimum she gives us, and perhaps she decided to make it shorter from the start to give everyone the same show. I don't think she'll further scrap songs, other than maybe including Breakaway here and there and replacing FAH with a Green Day cover when they're not opening for her. Cons:
-The themed set is a great idea, but I would've swapped some songs to make them fit the theme better. I think Complicated could've been next to Sk8erBoi later on the show, and WYG could've been pushed to either the ballad encore or the first part of the show, which had a TBDT theme. I think there's room for improvement there. -Energy. I don't think there's much to say here. It's pretty much a standard at this point. But it's sad we don't get a bit more from her, knowing what she's capable of. -Vocals. I'll give her the benefit of doubt on this one, since I think she's having vocal issues based on the videos I've seen. But if she's going back to her weird 2011-2014 accent, it's a terrible step back from what she had been delivering these past years. -Setlist. It's missing at least an acoustic set, in which she could easily add NH and a surprise song or a single she hasn't performed in a while. I think that would leave a lot of people more pleased with the setlist overall. -She needs to rehearse more. She forgot the lyrics to HTNGU on the second verse. I think it's ok if she messes up here and there, but she needs to commit more to what she's offering to the public and not mess up the lyrics, let alone of one of her lead singles. That's all I can think of for now. As I expected, the only pros on this concert are related to visuals. Image is everything that results in her artistry nowadays. In therms of music, this tour is horrendous. Even her voice got worse. I also didnt like the combination of logos that she used around the stage, too much information. Not even Hannah Montana concerts were as childish as this one. At the end of the day, Im sure that her instagram page will make sure to make people think that is tour is as good as Bonez. As I said, image! |
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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 23, 2024 17:49:36 GMT
Sorry to bitch too much but I have to say. It is NOT ACCEPTABLE to be hungover to the point where your show sucks. Normal, regular everyday people are spending their hard earned money that THEY NEED on her. She does not need their money. They need their money.. Some people are just saying maybe she's hungover. That's not an acceptable excuse. She's a professional. I just had to say. Maybe there's a different excuse but like oneofthoseguys says, she's been this way for years. Dont worry, hangover is just another excuse fans will find to avoid the real thing - her lazyness and her lack of artistry over the last 10 years or more. |
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Post by 𝑺𝒖𝒏𝒔𝒆𝒕 . 𝑪𝒓𝒖𝒔𝒉 ★ on May 23, 2024 18:01:09 GMT
Now you know how I felt when I attended to her concert in 2022. Worst show i've ever watched in my 30 year old life. 2 years later and funny how the excuses still the same: "She might be sick", "she's shy" hahaha 22 years touring, guys. Please, stop. I have to agree.. Someone just sent me the setlists from the latest tours of Avril's "references": Alanis: 26 songs performed Shania: 21 songs Blink-182: 25 songs And this is her main reference on stage: Green Day: 35 songs So, who is she learning from, after all? Girl, please. Just sing 1 minute of those songs that aren't major hits, add a medley, or whatever... put in the bare minimum effort 💀 To be honest, Bonez Tour had a lot of concerts with 16 tracks but she made sure that every show was going to be memorable, in therms of stage presence and vocals. She was so connected with the songs back then. Yep. This is what is missing. Connection to the songs. |
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Post by landonm170 on May 23, 2024 18:20:22 GMT
It bothers me how she messed up the setlist is since she's using the same pattern of songs. I feel something similar to this would have been better.
Act I
1. Sk8er Boi
2. What the Hell
3. Here's to Never Growing Up
Act II
4. Girlfriend
5. Bite Me
6. My Happy Ending
7. Fake as Hell
Act III
8. When You're Gone
9. Head Above Water
10. I'm with You
Act IV
11. Don't Tell Me
12. Love It When You Hate Me
13. Smile
14. He Wasn't
Encore
15. Complicated
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Post by afonso16 on May 23, 2024 18:46:19 GMT
Dropping my two cents on this mess. I'm not remotely surprised by the setlist, I am disappointed however by her complete lack of energy (especially because usually it tends to dwindle down even more as she goes along the tour)... And no, i don't need her to be running around (though I'd appreciate it), but she looks completely disengaged from the entire situation, there's absolutely no passion when she sings.
Also, when she brings the fans onstage... it's a nice gesture and I'm sure the chosen fans appreciate it, but it is so clearly something she does for appearances lol. Once they get to the stage she pays absolutely no attention to them and they're just left looking awkward without knowing what to do.
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Post by erikvaze on May 23, 2024 18:59:53 GMT
It baffles me that she asked for fan requests when the tour was announced and yet I’m sure nobody was asking for these, outside of the usual few people who ask for SB and GF as if she isn’t going to play them. That was probably 80% of the responses so she assumed that’s all fans wanted to hear lol Fans should be also smarter to request unusual songs 😭😭😭 |
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Post by TamyXD on May 23, 2024 19:05:22 GMT
I haven't yet gotten round to reading all the recent posts in this thread, I've just skimmed them and watched the clips that were linked.
From what I've seen and read so far... sorry, but wtf? I didn't even have high expectations at all, but this must be a new low? WTF was that accent during "Sk8er Boi"? Genuinely, is she okay? Was she drunk/hungover?
The setlist is, unfortunately, what I had expected/feared. Pretty short, no KHO or NH, it's basically exactly the same as the LS tour setlists. Honestly, this would be the perfect setlist if she was playing a festival, where acts usually don't have as much time to play anyway. But this is HER OWN show, HER OWN tour, and as others have said, for someone who's been in the business for 22 years and has 7 studio albums, this just doesn't cut it.
I will say that I'm positively surprised to see FAH on the setlist; I'd forgotten this song existed, lol. I'm also not worried or disappointed about the lack of "Breakaway" and the Green Day cover. I always thought she meant to add them to just a few shows, so I think there's still a chance we might hear them.
The staging and the outfit look fine, I guess. Idk, not really my cup of tea, I prefer a more simple approach (think TTSMU tour, Bonez tour, Black Star tour).
Her voice and energy... yikes. Again, I unfortunately have to say I hadn't expected much after she struggled so much during the LS tour. I did have some slight hope she might have gotten better since, but her voice sounds really weak in the few clips I've seen so far. She seems tired and bored, like she'd rather be anywhere but on stage. I might look past this if this was the umpteenth show of the tour, but this is the OPENING show! How can she already be this unenthusiastic, this seemingly tired, this vocally weak? Why is she so out of breath? I'm not even sure if I'm just disappointed or actually worried... Her energy on stage has been mediocre for a long time imo, but she always managed to shine with her voice. Even when she was using that weird accent back in the early 2010s, her voice was always reliably strong. But during the past couple of years, even that seems to be have gone away. I just don't understand what's going on. Hence my genuine question earlier: is she okay?
I'm also really questioning at the moment if she's truly unaware of how she comes across on stage? In interviews, she always makes it sound like she has the best time, but this recent concert once again shows the complete opposite.
I truly hate to be so negative, and I'd love to find some better clips of last night's show, so I can be proven wrong. But... this just isn't the first time a show has been disappointing. It's just that this one seems to have been especially bad. I wonder what it was like to actually be there? Videos can't really portray that, after all...
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Post by erikvaze on May 23, 2024 19:11:57 GMT
This tourstart was one of the worst concerts I have ever seen from her. Seriously. Her voice is so weak, there is no energy and what the hell is that accent or what are those words she is singing...?? www.instagram.com/reel/C7T--8Dun6f/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Even the clip of Complicated in her story sounds bad... all the videos I have seen look horrible. I really really hope she just had a bad day, or was hungover or whatever. But this is such a bad start. And I'm not even complaining about the setlist here... Edit: My god, I'm watching more and more clips and this has to be an exceptionally bad concert. I'm so sorry for the fans who attended. www.instagram.com/reel/C7TYT3QOT8Z/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Not her saying "KuN uH mUUK it any moa obvias". Why is she using this accent again? She had been using a decent, natural pitch and accent since 2019, and now she's going back to that annoying accent and trying to sound like Pavarotti. I just don't get this. I thought we'd never have to experience this again and I'm scared if this is her new approach. Again, I hope she just had some vocal problems yesterday. Hahah now I wanna make a spoof TikTok of this tour I can’t Ahhaa she’s trying to sound “cool” or sk8er gurly? |
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Post by 𝑺𝒖𝒏𝒔𝒆𝒕 . 𝑪𝒓𝒖𝒔𝒉 ★ on May 23, 2024 19:12:06 GMT
She will have to speak up someday..
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