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Post by oneofthoseguys on May 26, 2024 1:01:07 GMT
There's another thing... it seems like this tour is a bit longer than the previous ones. I've seen a video, and the first concert lasted around 1 hour and 24 minutes. Even though this isn't that long, the problem isn't just the short setlist. The performance of He Wasn't lasted for almost 8 minutes due to the guitar battle, mute challenge, crowd interaction, and the song itself. I'm not saying this is good or bad. But it's ironic that she can't do shortened versions of songs, instead, she extends some of them... lol. To keep the balance, I'll keep the exact setlist but add an acoustic set with WYWH, KHO, and NH. Plus, a surprise set for songs that she barely performs, like TMIO, Hot, RNR, HK, and IAM, and switch between these singles that don't make the cut but she supposedly already knows the lyrics to. I don't think deep cuts will be added, but they could join this surprise set. If she's worried the audience won't know how to sing along, adding singles that, while not her greatest hits, are still known, would be helpful. This would be 4/5+ songs, which is a decent improvement. She is not going to do it tho. The intros and the long pauses lol I still cannot believe that she used that old HAW intro video... 3rd time in a tour.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 26, 2024 1:15:04 GMT
My fiancé and I went to see the new Garfield movie today and it was 100 minutes long. A kids movie is longer than Avril’s set…
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Post by katy on May 26, 2024 1:45:15 GMT
My fiancé and I went to see the new Garfield movie today and it was 100 minutes long. A kids movie is longer than Avril’s set… lmao I don’t get all this average setlist talk - is anyone here attending live shows shorter than Avrils? I certainly haven’t. I left the LS tour thinking “wow that was short”. As I said in my last post, I’m seeing Megan Moroney who has ONE ALBUM and plays 3 more songs than Avril. I’m seeing Alkaline Trio in July and they play 20. Morgan Wallen 25. Her setlist length is absolutely not the norm so let’s not try to pretend it is! Like we’ve all said, she literally just needs to add a 3/4 song acoustic set and it’d be absolutely fine. However, that should’ve happened before the tour started, she shouldn’t need fans or reviews or backlash to tell her fans deserve more than the bare minimum
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Post by blackmage on May 26, 2024 2:02:02 GMT
Maybe she's too stuck in the 2000s. Let's be honest, she hasn't updated her approach and still acts like we're in the 2000s, when long setlists were not the norm. Fans requesting changes might open her eyes. I checked some acts from that decade, and most tours didn't have much more than 20ish songs.
20 years later, she's still behind them. She doesn't need to perform 30 songs, but 15 is f* ridiculous!
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Post by katy on May 26, 2024 2:38:07 GMT
Yep 20 would be absolutely fine, nobody would be complaining then. It’s really not a lot to ask (not that we should even have to ask in the first place lol)
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Post by landonm170 on May 26, 2024 2:45:29 GMT
I didn't realize how small the pit for amphitheaters are! Everyone in the pit gets to be close to her, love that!
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Post by blackmage on May 26, 2024 2:49:02 GMT
Also, instead of those boring video interludes, she could use that time to project some of her songs in the background with a video, like she did for Bad Girl-interlude, but with songs from the Greatest Hits album. Isn't this tour being supported by the upcoming GH album? It's better than those 2-3 minutes of the band playing alone or just showing old music videos footage. At least it would give representation to other songs, even if she doesn't sing them.
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Post by blackmage on May 26, 2024 2:50:25 GMT
I didn't realize how small the pit for amphitheaters are! Everyone in the pit gets to be close to her, love that! Hope we can't get better videos today. Do you know how many hours behind the concert?
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Post by biggerwow on May 26, 2024 2:51:13 GMT
Sorry, but I don't think that comparison works at all. I checked some of those Avenged Sevenfold setlists.
Out of those 18 songs, 13 are over 5 minutes long (the studio version), some are even nearing 10 minutes, "Save Me" is actually 10:56. Unless they cut most of these songs short or played them super fast, that makes that set easily over 90 minutes long. In fact, if you search YouTube for any of their full shows from 2024, all those videos are 100 minutes or longer.
yeah im sorry but using Avenged Sevenfold is a very bad example.
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Post by landonm170 on May 26, 2024 2:53:29 GMT
I didn't realize how small the pit for amphitheaters are! Everyone in the pit gets to be close to her, love that! Hope we can't get better videos today. Do you know how many hours behind the concert? It's 7:52 p.m. in Auburn, WA, United States currently, so they're probably on the second opener. Do we know what time Avril went on in Vancouver local time? It's the same time zone as Auburn btw.
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Post by biggerwow on May 26, 2024 2:59:02 GMT
I didn't realize how small the pit for amphitheaters are! Everyone in the pit gets to be close to her, love that! Hope we can't get better videos today. Do you know how many hours behind the concert? ARLavigneDaily on Twitter had some great clips on Wednesday from a source. Avril looked great in them. I think if she stops doing that accent and does a longer setlist she'll improve the show. Because tbh I thought she had the same energy as always. If she paced herself more with an acoustic set somewhere it would help a lot but it looked like a fun little show IMO. The crowd was so into it so I wonder how the American crowd will be.
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Post by blackmage on May 26, 2024 3:01:58 GMT
Hope we can't get better videos today. Do you know how many hours behind the concert? ARLavigneDaily on Twitter had some great clips on Wednesday from a source. Avril looked great in them. I think if she stops doing that accent and does a longer setlist she'll improve the show. Because tbh I thought she had the same energy as always. If she paced herself more with an acoustic set somewhere it would help a lot but it looked like a fun little show IMO. The crowd was so into it so I wonder how the American crowd will be. After watching some close-up videos, I also concluded that she was pretty much the same as always.
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Post by Brainwashed on May 26, 2024 3:05:57 GMT
I heard people say she went on around 9:25 local time or so
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Post by TomX on May 26, 2024 4:45:25 GMT
It seems she’s added Hot and Losing Grip!
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Post by minaring on May 26, 2024 4:57:57 GMT
It seems she’s added Hot and Losing Grip! REALLY?! COMPLAINING WORKS edit: im actually surprised losing grip wasnt on the setlist before, its my favourite song to hear live
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