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Post by eismann on May 12, 2024 14:18:33 GMT
I also feel that with LS era she chose to establish her pop-punk-nostalgia-legacy, so for GH she went with her upbeat songs that people want. Except for her most popular ballads IWY and WYG. But more ballads on her GH would interfere with her rock-out-girl-image I guess
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Post by gabbox on May 12, 2024 14:31:37 GMT
Yes but also Wish You Were Here yesterday reached 500 Million views on You Tube, way more than WTH which was a bigger hit than WYWH? And basically almost the double of the 270M views of I'm With You Video. Crazy.
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Post by henryp92 on May 12, 2024 14:41:22 GMT
I mean, it's pretty obvious the GH is all about the upbeat pop-rock image of Avril. WYG, KHO and NH are probably there as fan favorites, she probably had preferred HK over those.
I wonder if there was a track limit/problems with song licensing. There is no other explanation as to why this isn't a double album, containing other GH/Fan favorites such as Alice, WYWH, Hot and IFILWTD. She has like 30 singles, she could have easily put two 12-14 songs sides with her career in it. And like other times, this isn't something we can blame on her being lazy because she has to do no work to get it done. Her setlist could still be only the upbeat tracks, and I actually suspect that in a few concerts she will play some songs that didn't made the cut.
About UMS 20th year anniversary... She doesn't care about that album. I'm actually surprised she put NH in the GH, as that song is never on a setlist and only plays it when she is BOMBARDED by fan requests. She hasn't played TMA, Forgotten or Together in almost two decades, but got time to put IAGWIW, an extra track, into many setlists during the 2010s.
Let's face it, we don't know how she feels in her home about her albums, but once an album it's done, it's done in her career. The only exception is Let Go. Not even TBDT qualifies, for years she has only payed attention to GF, maybe WYG and maaaaybe KHO. Wether she is lying when she sais she is proud of all her 7 records, she is oblivious about fans desires or actually works knowing that general public doesn't give a fuck about 90 % of her discography is something I don't know. Regardless, I haven't expected any fan treat for years, better to be here for the good music than anything else.
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Post by nimbuspixie on May 12, 2024 14:50:13 GMT
I mean, it's pretty obvious the GH is all about the upbeat pop-rock image of Avril. WYG, KHO and NH are probably there as fan favorites, she probably had preferred HK over those. I wonder if there was a track limit/problems with song licensing. There is no other explanation as to why this isn't a double album, containing other GH/Fan favorites such as Alice, WYWH, Hot and IFILWTD. She has like 30 singles, she could have easily put two 12-14 songs sides with her career in it. And like other times, this isn't something we can blame on her being lazy because she has to do no work to get it done. Her setlist could still be only the upbeat tracks, and I actually suspect that in a few concerts she will play some songs that didn't made the cut. About UMS 20th year anniversary... She doesn't care about that album. I'm actually surprised she put NH in the GH, as that song is never on a setlist and only plays it when she is BOMBARDED by fan requests. She hasn't played TMA, Forgotten or Together in almost two decades, but got time to put IAGWIW, an extra track, into many setlists during the 2010s. Let's face it, we don't know how she feels in her home about her albums, but once an album it's done, it's done in her career. The only exception is Let Go. Not even TBDT qualifies, for years she has only payed attention to GF, maybe WYG and maaaaybe KHO. Wether she is lying when she sais she is proud of all her 7 records, she is oblivious about fans desires or actually works knowing that general public doesn't give a fuck about 90 % of her discography is something I don't know. Regardless, I haven't expected any fan treat for years, better to be here for the good music than anything else. Was listening to the Budokan set the other day, I wish we could get a new performance of Take Me Away, Forgotten and Together…I mean also Unwanted and Tomorrow were fantastic in Budokan!
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Post by whateverjustaname on May 12, 2024 15:14:35 GMT
Maybe she also just doesn’t like Wish You Were Here as much as other songs she chose for the greatest hits? Last year Wish You Were Here was replaced with Nobody’s Home in Italy and never came back to the setlist afterwards. She brought back When You’re Gone for the final two shows but not WYWH neither Avalanche.
In the end she chose the songs she wanted and that’s it. Doesn’t matter if other songs were ‘bigger hits’ or not, nothing will change anyways.
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Post by gabbox on May 12, 2024 15:33:50 GMT
Guys, there has been a bit of confusion along with these Vinyl Variants, and I think I managed to understand the logic Behind it.
Let Go: Turquoise Color (Only for European Market). Red Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive).
Under My Skin: Grey and Black Marbled (Only for European Market). Silver Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive).
The Best Damn Thing: Only in Pink. In Europe You can find it everywhere (Amazon, HMV). IN US, apparently only as an Avril Wesbtore Exclusive.
Goodbye Lullaby: White colour (only for Europe Market). Green Colour (only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive).
Avril Lavigne: Baby Blue colour (only for European Market). Light Blue colour (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive).
Greatest Hits: Neon Green Colour. In the European Market available everywhere (Amazon, HMV). In the American Market sold as a Target Exclusive.
Now, if the Amazon exclusives should pop up in the European Amazon Stores, then this post won't be valid anymore, but at the moment this is what the situation looks like and it kind of makes sense. I realized all of this trying to find and post the links for each of them (I'm updating the 1st post of this thread). I saw the US Amazon Exclusive are selling well, for example they sold 200+ copies of green GL for example, in just 48 hours.
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Post by blackmage on May 12, 2024 15:34:35 GMT
She added Love Sux songs because these are her most recent singles. Not a single artist would like to advertise a compilation by saying their last hits were like 10 years ago. Also, considering that she hasn't added a single new song and the fact that this GH is aimed at the GP, maybe some Love Sux singles will basically be new stuff for casual listeners (sorry to admit it), haha... Also, Love It When You Hate had some of her best performances on pop radios. Bois Lies is the only random song there as it was never released as a single.
BTW, I never noticed how I'm a Mess reminisces I'm With You. Is it a reference?
No, I don't know where to go from here But I know I'm a mess, I'm a mess When we're not together
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I'm looking for a place I'm searching for a face Is anybody here I know? 'Cause nothing's going right And everything's a mess And no one likes to be alone
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Post by blackmage on May 12, 2024 15:38:35 GMT
Guys, there has been a bit of confusion along with these Vinyl Variants, and I think I managed to understand the logic Behind it. Let Go: Turquoise Color (Only for European Market). Red Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Under My Skin: Grey and Black Marbled (Only for European Market). Silver Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). The Best Damn Thing: Only in Pink. In Europe You can find it everywhere (Amazon, HMV). IN US, apparently only as an Avril Wesbtore Exclusive. Goodbye Lullaby: White colour (only for Europe Market). Green Colour (only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Avril Lavigne: Baby Blue colour (only for European Market). Light Blue colour (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Greatest Hits: Neon Green Colour. In the European Market available everywhere (Amazon, HMV). In the American Market sold as a Target Exclusive. Now, if the Amazon exclusives should pop up in the European Amazon Stores, then this post won't be valid anymore, but at the moment this is what the situation looks like and it kind of makes sense. I realized all of this trying to find and post the links for each of them (I'm updating the 1st post of this thread). I saw the US Amazon Exclusive are selling well, for example they sold 200+ copies of green GL for example, in just 48 hours. Funny that apparently TBDT is the best-selling vinyl among these, at least on Amazon, even though fans clearly prefer UMS. I guess the general public prefers TBDT, which explains why it has better performance on streaming and for these repressing sales.
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Post by gabbox on May 12, 2024 15:40:38 GMT
I did a small scheme myself because I was confused too, let me know if it's clear.
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Post by whateverjustaname on May 12, 2024 15:42:43 GMT
Guys, there has been a bit of confusion along with these Vinyl Variants, and I think I managed to understand the logic Behind it. Let Go: Turquoise Color (Only for European Market). Red Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Under My Skin: Grey and Black Marbled (Only for European Market). Silver Color (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). The Best Damn Thing: Only in Pink. In Europe You can find it everywhere (Amazon, HMV). IN US, apparently only as an Avril Wesbtore Exclusive. Goodbye Lullaby: White colour (only for Europe Market). Green Colour (only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Avril Lavigne: Baby Blue colour (only for European Market). Light Blue colour (Only for US market, as an Amazon Exclusive). Greatest Hits: Neon Green Colour. In the European Market available everywhere (Amazon, HMV). In the American Market sold as a Target Exclusive. Now, if the Amazon exclusives should pop up in the European Amazon Stores, then this post won't be valid anymore, but at the moment this is what the situation looks like and it kind of makes sense. I realized all of this trying to find and post the links for each of them (I'm updating the 1st post of this thread). I saw the US Amazon Exclusive are selling well, for example they sold 200+ copies of green GL for example, in just 48 hours. Exactly what I mentioned yesterday, there’s no store in the US having the European colors.
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Post by gabbox on May 12, 2024 15:44:32 GMT
Yes. I was sure (and I still hope) they may appear also in European Amazon stores, but while trying to find links I realized this "variant logic behind" and it makes sense that those Amazon Exclusives are just for American Marke and won't arrive here. I preordered mine and with shipping and customs will be expensive, but I collect her vinyl, so..
Also I couldn't understand the "Pink TBDT Vinyl Avril webstore Exclusive" considering that for me is available everywhere, Amazon included, then I figured it out why it is "webstore exclusive" : it's the only place where getting it from US.
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Post by blackmage on May 12, 2024 15:45:22 GMT
I haven't bought the GH CD yet because I'm waiting to see if they'll release signed copies. I'm skipping the vinyls since they're too pricey.
Do you guys remember how long it took for her to release the LS signed batch? Is there a chance she'll release signed copies of the GH?
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Post by whateverjustaname on May 12, 2024 15:47:35 GMT
Yes. I was sure (and I still hope) they may appear also in European Amazon stores, but while trying to find links I realized this "variant logic behind" and it makes sense that those Amazon Exclusives are just for American Marke and won't arrive here. I preordered mine and with shipping and customs will be expensive, but I collect her vinyl, so.. Same here, preordered all European variants as well as the US Amazon ones and if they appear in other Amazon stores, then the US order can just be cancelled. Also UMS Amazon exclusive appears and disappears again every now and then, don’t know if that means anything.
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Post by BogoGog24 on May 12, 2024 16:09:55 GMT
I haven't bought the GH CD yet because I'm waiting to see if they'll release signed copies. I'm skipping the vinyls since they're too pricey. Do you guys remember how long it took for her to release the LS signed batch? Is there a chance she'll release signed copies of the GH? I think if they planned to do signed copies it probably would have been announced first thing, to drive up sales. I seem to remember LS was announced right away but I don’t really remember.
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Post by biggerwow on May 12, 2024 16:12:04 GMT
I also feel that with LS era she chose to establish her pop-punk-nostalgia-legacy, so for GH she went with her upbeat songs that people want. Except for her most popular ballads IWY and WYG. But more ballads on her GH would interfere with her rock-out-girl-image I guess this is why she doesn't evolve then But let's have fun imagine it being called Greatest Hits:Teenage Nightmare + track included. And with that cover. How cute would that be. On the other hand, it could have also be the Mother Fucking Princess Greatest Hits..Bigger Wow after me 😁
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