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Post by sam on Sept 4, 2015 21:07:19 GMT
I think at the start of the upgrade it was going fine, but then considering the amount of data they had to transfer/new server etc must of been a big undertaking- I think I recall Sharifa/Zach saying it had been running for "weeks" and going "very slowly" i respect that but I'm still annoyed that the last reply we got from Sharfia was on Marliz's Facebook in March (when we launched) and she has replied to another account (I can't remember who it was) that asked her to do the redirect. As she said she'd do it back in March. Anyway, my speculation is basically the above, ran into issues, saw how big it was and then didn't have the time to do it; as Sharifa said the issue is time, not money. I'm not sure why they haven't given us an update at least though to tell us- there is absolutely no shame if it has gone wrong. The reason the upgrade started was because of all the issues with the site; I remember all of the staff asking for it. But I don't think any of us predicted this kind of situation would stem out of it. I think at the time it was try to upgrade the site as a clean slate/leave it in its current buggy/unstable state-that was basically what everyone was saying. It was Amanda that managed to get a reply from Sharifa and get her to re-direct the page. But come on if time is the reason, next sunday we can "celebrate" 6 months on this forum. If they have given up, either because they feel like this forum have replaced the old or other reasons, Sharifa or Zach should say so. If they have moved on from being so big fans of Avril that they won't be handling the forum, pass it on to somebody else. I don't want to step on Sharifas toes by saying this, but if she don't see BA as her baby no more, why don't say so. If the upgrade didn't work and went to ****, then please be honest. If money were to be an issue - i guess if some of us give say 5 dollars each.. it would be a lot of help. I see this as bandaids now. I don't want the old site back anymore. I did 6 months ago, but this works out as good. It's something I wonder about alot; I'm still slightly optimistic about it but I guess we can't really dwell in the past but at the same time this site has a uncertain future.
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Post by In Wonderland on Sept 4, 2015 21:10:36 GMT
It was Amanda that managed to get a reply from Sharifa and get her to re-direct the page. But come on if time is the reason, next sunday we can "celebrate" 6 months on this forum. If they have given up, either because they feel like this forum have replaced the old or other reasons, Sharifa or Zach should say so. If they have moved on from being so big fans of Avril that they won't be handling the forum, pass it on to somebody else. I don't want to step on Sharifas toes by saying this, but if she don't see BA as her baby no more, why don't say so. If the upgrade didn't work and went to ****, then please be honest. If money were to be an issue - i guess if some of us give say 5 dollars each.. it would be a lot of help. I see this as bandaids now. I don't want the old site back anymore. I did 6 months ago, but this works out as good. It's something I wonder about alot; I'm still slightly optimistic about it but I guess we can't really dwell in the past but at the same time this site has a uncertain future. Well, in the end the only thing that matters is that bandaids will stay active as long as Avril still release music
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Post by BogoGog24 on Sept 4, 2015 21:19:36 GMT
The only thing that would suck about losing old BA IMO is no gallery and this is the biggest issue in my eyes. There were members that spent so much time uploading all those photos that we now don't have anymore, just a huge waste of time. It would obviously take too long to try to restore it, so we basically would have no gallery and all those photos from pre-Lyme/People magazine issue are basically gone. Thankfully there are some other Avril sites around that have a pretty extensive gallery but not like what BA had. This to me is the biggest and most important issue and something that really does matter a lot, that would be a shame to lose.
It also sucks that we've lost some of the old community so we can't restore some of our old activities like The Voice of Bandaids or Bandaids Magazine because not all the members that were involved are present here.
But like others said, I'd pretty much be ok with this being BA now. I just wish we didn't lose the gallery, but I guess all we can do is just upload the photos we have from People magazine/Lyme, Special Olympics/Fly, new Abbey Dawn, Charming, etc. and go from there. Maybe we could get a new staff together for Bandaids Magazine, there's so much that's happened with Avril over these last several months (Lyme, Special Olympics/Fly, new AD collection, Charming movie, divorce from Chad). Perhaps reinstating some of those old activities might get more old members to come back if it feels more like the old site.
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Post by TomX on Sept 5, 2015 0:09:28 GMT
Sharifa hasn't even replied my inboxes on FB asking for my autograph, she "sees" them and I have no word from her
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Post by Dillon on Sept 5, 2015 5:08:57 GMT
Who knows if she'll even do that though. She can't be bothered to respond to any messages or give an update about the site. I assume she is just too busy with her job and other real life things to care anymore about BA. At this point I think she'd have said something about the status/future of the site, one way or another. It's too bad we can't get in touch with any of them, not Sharifa, not Zach, not Devon… what happened to all of them? Due to the complete silence over these last several months, I'm not holding my breath for Sharifa to give any kind of official statement about it. That doesn't mean that this site can officially call itself the true replacement just because Sharifa has been quiet. I'm not saying that this site has done anything bad or wrong (and am certainly not badmouthing anyone or being disrespectful to this site's creators), but this site can't call itself the new version of someone else's website - it just doesn't work that way. I'm very grateful for this site and am glad that it exists in the midst of the vbulletin site's absence; but considering the rules and guidelines surrounding intellectual property, Sharifa would have to hand over her ownership in order for this site to actually be AvrilBandaids. That's all I was saying. We can give this as much BA feel as we want and say it's the real BA all we want just because it has the same members and related topics, but it just isn't from a technical standpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 6:45:05 GMT
It also sucks that we've lost some of the old community so we can't restore some of our old activities like The Voice of Bandaids or Bandaids Magazine because not all the members that were involved are present here. I think the members we've lost would have moved on anyway, regardless of the all the issues regarding the site. There are people whom I miss very much. But things change, and while some of us will still be here when we're in our 80s, most people come and go. I've been a member of so many forums and I've seen it happen so many times. But I see no reason why things like The Voice of Bandaids, the Bandaids Magazine, MOTM, the ABAs etc. can't be rebooted. I've seen lots of people say how much they miss these things, so I assume we have the manpower to organize them. What are we waiting for?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 7:00:54 GMT
this site can't call itself the new version of someone else's website - it just doesn't work that way. Legally? No. Spiritually? Absolutely yes. You're also working with the assumption that Sharifa even cares about her intellectual property. I'm pretty sure that copyright issues are void if the owner is too busy to give a damn. It's been almost a year since the old site went offline. No word about its status, no announcements, nothing. I think it's safe to say that she's moved on. The worst case scenario is that I'm wrong and blizz and marliz have to ditch the "Bandaids" name. Would that be so tragic? It would always be Bandaids, we just wouldn't be allowed to call it that.
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Post by In Wonderland on Sept 5, 2015 7:02:01 GMT
It also sucks that we've lost some of the old community so we can't restore some of our old activities like The Voice of Bandaids or Bandaids Magazine because not all the members that were involved are present here. I think the members we've lost would have moved on anyway, regardless of the all the issues regarding the site. There are people whom I miss very much. But things change, and while some of us will still be here when we're in our 80s, most people come and go. I've been a member of so many forums and I've seen it happen so many times. But I see no reason why things like The Voice of Bandaids, the Bandaids Magazine, MOTM, the ABAs etc. can't be rebooted. I've seen lots of people say how much they miss these things, so I assume we have the manpower to organize them. What are we waiting for?Just wait and see
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Post by Monet ♥ on Sept 5, 2015 9:26:05 GMT
Meltdowns. Meltdowns everywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2015 9:38:59 GMT
Meltdowns. Meltdowns everywhere. Not really, just a lot of mixed feelings about the future of "real" Bandaids and the function of "temp" Bandaids. And I'm only using those prefixes because not everyone has reached the 5th stage of grief like I have.
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Post by Monet ♥ on Sept 5, 2015 9:42:53 GMT
Meltdowns. Meltdowns everywhere. Not really, just a lot of mixed feelings about the future of "real" Bandaids and the function of "temp" Bandaids. And I'm only using those prefixes because not everyone has reached the 5th stage of grief like I have. I know. I just thought about something specific when posting this. More like an inside-joke that some members can understand.
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Post by In Wonderland on Sept 5, 2015 9:56:21 GMT
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Post by sam on Sept 5, 2015 12:32:20 GMT
Who knows if she'll even do that though. She can't be bothered to respond to any messages or give an update about the site. I assume she is just too busy with her job and other real life things to care anymore about BA. At this point I think she'd have said something about the status/future of the site, one way or another. It's too bad we can't get in touch with any of them, not Sharifa, not Zach, not Devon… what happened to all of them? Due to the complete silence over these last several months, I'm not holding my breath for Sharifa to give any kind of official statement about it. That doesn't mean that this site can officially call itself the true replacement just because Sharifa has been quiet. I'm not saying that this site has done anything bad or wrong (and am certainly not badmouthing anyone or being disrespectful to this site's creators), but this site can't call itself the new version of someone else's website - it just doesn't work that way. I'm very grateful for this site and am glad that it exists in the midst of the vbulletin site's absence; but considering the rules and guidelines surrounding intellectual property, Sharifa would have to hand over her ownership in order for this site to actually be AvrilBandaids. That's all I was saying. We can give this as much BA feel as we want and say it's the real BA all we want just because it has the same members and related topics, but it just isn't from a technical standpoint. Legally yes you are correct, it is her IP and she has full control over it; but only members sometimes refer to this as Avril Bandaids. The staff running this don't Nor do we want to; it has been and always will be just a staff run site that gives the experience of Bandaids. We wouldn't be doing it without Sharifas permission also: Me and Marliz have set up this free no thrills forum just so you guys can chat and at least relive some form of Bandaids experience while the upgrade is ongoing It won't have all the features of Bandaids and not every staff member may be available on this site. We would of opened this alot sooner but we wanted another progress update from Sharifa first- she's given us the go ahead to make a temporary forum
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Post by Dillon on Sept 5, 2015 12:59:10 GMT
Legally yes you are correct, it is her IP and she has full control over it; but only members sometimes refer to this as Avril Bandaids. The staff running this don't Nor do we want to; it has been and always will be just a staff run site that gives the experience of Bandaids. We wouldn't be doing it without Sharifas permission also. I just want to put on the record that I wasn't implying that you were or have . My original post about this what just for pointing out the technicality so that people didn't overlook it. But thanks for your post, I think what you said is important.
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Post by sam on Sept 5, 2015 13:02:29 GMT
Legally yes you are correct, it is her IP and she has full control over it; but only members sometimes refer to this as Avril Bandaids. The staff running this don't Nor do we want to; it has been and always will be just a staff run site that gives the experience of Bandaids. We wouldn't be doing it without Sharifas permission also. I just want to put on the record that I wasn't implying that you were or have . My original post about this what just for pointing out the technicality so that people didn't overlook it. But thanks for your post, I think what you said is important. Ah gotcha I just thought I'd post what I said anyway in case anyone has the wrong idea
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