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Post by Nick on Feb 3, 2016 19:46:20 GMT
Had AL been released earlier like planned, say May or June, off the heels of moderately successful HTNGU, do you think it would've performed better? Avril's star power had already fallen and then on top of it, Epic waited 6 months to release an album that only had one top twenty single.
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Post by TamyXD on Feb 3, 2016 20:33:09 GMT
Let's see... HTNGU was released in April, and its promotion was okay imo. If AL had been released about a month later people would've remembered HTNGU without already being sick of it, and they might have tried out the whole record and bought it. AL is also an album that's much better to listen to in summer. I mean, especially Bitchin' Summer and Sippin' On Sunshine - try listening to those in winter, it's really weird. So yeah, I guess it would have performed better.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 3, 2016 23:04:27 GMT
Honestly I doubt it. I mean, the long delay didn't help, but I seriously doubt it would have done that much better if released a few months earlier than it was. GP in general just don't care about Avril anymore and her fanbase is getting smaller and smaller. Unless she had released something really groundbreaking like 1989 or 25, I don't think she'd have done much better than how she did.
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Post by Avengium on Feb 3, 2016 23:35:06 GMT
Honestly I doubt it. Unless she had released something really groundbreaking like 1989 or 25, I don't think she'd have done much better than how she did. Groundbreaking=1989 by Taylor Swift. Totally agree.
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Post by Mohican. on Feb 4, 2016 7:27:09 GMT
Honestly I doubt it. I mean, the long delay didn't help, but I seriously doubt it would have done that much better if released a few months earlier than it was. GP in general just don't care about Avril anymore and her fanbase is getting smaller and smaller. Unless she had released something really groundbreaking like 1989 or 25, I don't think she'd have done much better than how she did. also agreed. I don't think it's because of the delay of the album but because of the quality.
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Post by wannabeyourmonster on Feb 4, 2016 8:34:03 GMT
It would probably performed the same, but we would get an album Avril really wanted to release and we would get it sooner. If you make music you want to and it flops, it's not that bad. But when you're purposely trying to write radio friendly hits on your album, and it flops, it's embarrassing.
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Post by Sora空 on Feb 4, 2016 9:55:23 GMT
It can be performed better than what it ended up right now but not a big one as what on our expectation since the first single didn't give so much attention to the people. By releasing it on May or June, she must release 2nd single at the same time.
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Post by sam on Feb 4, 2016 10:10:26 GMT
If you want my opinion I don't think it would've made a difference, the Album needed more promotion and I think that was the main issue here. Sure, you could also say "the songs were all over the place" but some of the songs on AL aren't bad at all; they just had to be promoted.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 4, 2016 10:53:11 GMT
I don't think Avril would have been successful even if 1989 was HER ablum. I think 1989's success is more based on Taylor Swift's career peak rather than its quality.
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Post by Jinkxx on Feb 4, 2016 11:53:52 GMT
Nah I don't think it would be more succesful. Maybe some people would listen to BS or SOS during summer holidays but that's probably it. Nothing more or less.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Feb 4, 2016 12:45:26 GMT
I don't think Avril would have been successful even if 1989 was HER ablum. I think 1989's success is more based on Taylor Swift's career peak rather than its quality. This is probably true but the quality of 1989 is strong. Certainly better than AL. It's a very sonically cohesive album with top of the line writing and pop production. Taylor's popularity certainly helped sell that record and yes I'm not sure if in the hands of any other artist it necessarily would have been as big as its been but it can definitely stand on its own feet when it comes to the quality. Easily one of the best albums of 2014.
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Post by Cookie Monster on Feb 4, 2016 13:06:43 GMT
I don't think Avril would have been successful even if 1989 was HER ablum. I think 1989's success is more based on Taylor Swift's career peak rather than its quality. This is probably true but the quality of 1989 is strong. Certainly better than AL. It's a very sonically cohesive album with top of the line writing and pop production. Taylor's popularity certainly helped sell that record and yes I'm not sure if in the hands of any other artist it necessarily would have been as big as its been but it can definitely stand on its own feet when it comes to the quality. Easily one of the best albums of 2014.
Well AL isn't really one of the best pop albums out there.... Though I agree that [1989] was a good solid album with quality, there was not a single track on 1989 that I would call "ground-breaking". AND the same goes to Adele's [25]. But their previous albums which made them superstars (and Avril's Let Go/TBDT) fit into the ground-breaking category.
I think I chose the wrong word for this. Should have said "I think 1989's success is more based on Taylor Swift's career peak rather than because it was a ground-breaking album. "
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2016 13:12:41 GMT
Perhaps if AL was released either in May/June or its original release date of September, it may have done slightly better (particularly in chart positions). Epic give her the worst release date with AL, the first week of November 2013 where we had new albums from big sellers such as Emimem, Celine Dion the same week, Katy Perry's third album was just released two weeks prior to Avril's release and then the following week of Avril's release was Lady Gaga.
Nowadays, in terms of sales, Avril cannot compete with big artists that have a huge following. The release for AL in November was just wrong. The timing was awful. If things were different epic should have released HTNGU along with AL pre-orders then released AL a month or two later along with a new single (Not RNR though - perhaps a totally different sounding song like Hello Heartache/Give You What You Like or even one of the summer songs - as generic as they are, I honestly think those songs could have done well at radio and she could have shot an awesome summery music video to garner attention.)
It is what it is though, AL is the biggest flop of Avril's entire discography. It's also her weakest album to date. I just don't want a repeat of this for Album#6.
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Post by goodbye on Feb 4, 2016 21:09:28 GMT
Maybe it would be better but just for the summer songs. I have to agree the point with the release. It's not clever to release an album when other bigger stars releases. Maybe they thought it would do well because it was released in Q4 and that means "mostly" more money thanks to Xmas
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Post by thyarchery on Feb 5, 2016 10:24:36 GMT
I think it would have done slightly better, specially regarding chart positions and maybe airplay, but to be honest it wouldn't have made that big of a difference. The biggest difference is, in my opinion, that Avril's fans wouldn't have lost as much trust in her as we did. We all know that's the time the s**n jokes came around, and we would also have relied more in Epic- specially if they had handled the promotion of the album and the singles' choice better. But the album was already spoiled by the bad production and the songs themselves weren't enough to save it.
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