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Post by TamyXD on Aug 9, 2021 22:44:44 GMT
Not 100% what you have asked for, but it reminds me when some "unreleased" tracks from Avril appeared on youtube - and it was just high-pitched songs of The All American Rejects. But they do sound like her! LOL! This reminds me of way back in 2009 or so, when I found this on YouTube:
A few people in the comments said that this wasn't Avril, but I personally was sure it was her. I even remember thinking to myself "One day, when this song gets officially released, we'll see that I'm right and those comments are wrong." Several years later, I realized that I was wrong. It's just a pitched version of the original by The Red Jumpsuit Apparatus. I'm laughing listening to this pitched version now. It's so clearly not Avril, lmao.
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Post by TamyXD on Aug 9, 2021 13:13:05 GMT
Cool thread! I love this idea. I think I dimly remember that Hillary Duff song! It does indeed scream Avril, and the video is so reminiscent of "Losing Grip", especially the beginning and the outfit Hillary is wearing. But the chorus falls kinda flat imo. The second song doesn't give me too many Avril vibes, except maybe some of the aesthetics. The video is really weird, though. And the third video - hell yeah, it's so 100% inspired by "Mobile" and "Complicated". Some shots even look like they've been taken straight out of the "Mobile" music video. And I also agree that the song totally sounds like an LG leftover.
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Post by TamyXD on Aug 6, 2021 14:42:14 GMT
I personally am really, really glad she wrote that DM. Sure, it's not specific, we still don't really know what's going on. But for me, it's enough. Ever since that DM, I've been feeling so much more at peace with the entire situation. I finally know (or rather, can assume) that we likely won't get new music this year, which means no more "maybe today's the day" every single day. It was getting really exhausting. Now, I can just enjoy other music until Avril is ready to release hers, whenever that may be.
Which, btw, is something I can highly recommend to everyone else - try and listen to other artists while there's no proper news from Avril. Use Spotify, Apple Music, YouTube, Soundcloud, whichever you're most comfortable with, and try and keep an open mind. Listen to playlists with all sorts of various artists, whether they're popular or completely unknown. There's bound to be great music there for you, you just have to find it. I myself spent several years believing Avril's music was the only truly enjoyable kind of music for me, but once I started using Spotify, I found so many more songs and musical genres that I really liked, and even a couple new favourite artists. These past 7 months (no kidding), I've been listening to almost nothing but The Beatles. I'd initially just wanted to know what the hype was about, but I ended up getting stuck in that rabbit hole because their music is just too good, lol.
Of course, none of this is going to be able to replace Avril, but that's not the point anyway. It's just supposed to help bridge the time until we get new music from her.
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Post by TamyXD on Aug 1, 2021 13:22:32 GMT
Not really AL7 related, but there's really nothing to talk about these days regarding AL7 anyway, so... Very recently, one of my favourite bands PVRIS released their newest song. Their music has been getting more and more electronic and pop over the years, which I wasn't a big fan of, but generally I was fine with it. The new song, however, is finally much too electronic for my taste and much too far away from their previous production style. It's not just very electronic, it's also hip hop, R&B, and probably trap influenced - all genres that I respect, but never managed to get into. It's the first song by PVRIS I don't really feel like going back to. I'm not the only fan who feels this way about the song. Most fans, however, seem to absolutely love it. Good for them. And good for the band. If they want to make electronic music rather than their 2014/2017 alt-pop-rock, that's great for them. However, a lot of the fans who love the new song now call out those of us who don't like the song and say it's hate.
This kind of inability to see the difference between constructive criticism and hate made me realise (once again) how great Bandaids is. Here, we can all truly express our opinions on Avril and her music without having to worry that other users will come after us and call us haters and fake fans (unless, of course, the "criticism" is discriminating, e.g. racist, sexist). Sure there are phases of great negativity and frustration, but generally we all know that we love Avril and only want the best for her. It's neither an echo chamber of people absolutely hating on everything Avril does, nor of people blindly worshipping every step she takes. I quite miss this in other fandoms.
So yeah, I really love BA and always feel welcome and safe here; that's basically all I really wanted to say. Also, me disliking PVRIS' new song made me crave Avril's new music even more. Not that I can allow myself to expect the absolute best from Avril (unfortunately), but seeing who she worked with and how she and they have described AL7, I think we can be pretty sure that it will at least not be so heavily electronically and R&B/hip hop influenced as PVRIS' new sound, but rather use organic instruments and lean more towards Avril's usual pop/rock/punk, which is just much more down my alley.
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 30, 2021 18:59:17 GMT
Is it Avril doing bv on this song? At 4 min I swear to god it's her voice đź‘€ What Bogo said. Avril also isn't listed in the credits you can find on Genius (though they might not be 100% reliable). I think it's just Billie's belting voice, which btw reminds me a lot more of Olivia Rodrigo than Avril.
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 25, 2021 21:28:00 GMT
Not exactly AL7 related, but Avril's latest instagram story is too cute! If she can't post anything about music, I wish she'd post more stuff like this.
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 25, 2021 13:12:05 GMT
I don't like the way Avril's contribution to the event is advertised at all. They make it sound like she's going to perform there. Nylon even has it seem like she's going to perform three nights in a row. Knowing Avril, I think the best we could hope for is that she'll DJ on all three dates, but I doubt she's going to do even that.
It indeed feels like the Lyme Light concert all over again. I get that Avril's promo team wants to advertise her as positively as they can, but this stuff is just too close to lying imo. You can't tell me they're not aware of how people are likely to misunderstand this kind of promotion. Even they can't be that dumb.
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 24, 2021 22:07:24 GMT
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 24, 2021 22:04:12 GMT
"Girlfriend" by our one and only mother fuckin' princess! Man, this song slaps!
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 24, 2021 18:51:36 GMT
I honestly can't imagine Avril at Emo Nite, lol. She's already not the greatest performer on stage - awesome vocals, yes, but she usually just stands around or walks from left to right, smiles awkwardly, and waves at fans. That's all she does on stage. How's she supposed to be a decent DJ and get the crowd at Emo Nite going? I fear this is going to be so awkward.
I'm already curious, though, which songs she's going to choose to play. Also, Mod Sun is listed to be at Emo Nite too. Maybe they're going to DJ together? That'd probably be better...
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 23, 2021 22:22:22 GMT
I just listened to Willow's full album "lately I feel EVERYTHING" and I gotta say, I'm completely surprised by how "G R O W" sticks out as the only song that has this kind of Disney pop child-like sound to it. All of the other songs on this record have much more of a rock production and just overall a heavier sound and less predictability imo. There's some really good drums and guitars on there. So, in that sense, "G R O W" sticks out kind of negatively imo, because it just doesn't fit sonically.
Overall, I still wouldn't say the album is amazing. It's good; I enjoyed it. But most songs are indeed too short. It seems more like Willow (and whoever else had influence in the writing process) couldn't think of anything more to add, rather than the songs deliberatley being short. I also think these super short songs aren't able to convey much of a meaning. Admittedly, I did not pay much attention to the lyrics, but imo a good song should also be able to tell you something through its music alone. I didn't really get that with most songs on this album; they were over before I really got to get into the right mood for each of them. I'd say there's only one exception to this, which is "F**K You". It's by far the shortest song, only 36 seconds, but I think it acts as a really fun, random interlude. It sounds like Willow was just having fun in the studio. It's like a little track recorded straight out of life.
Other songs that I thought stood out positively are "don't SAVE ME", which has some pretty sick guitars; "Come Home", which I really enjoyed instrumentally and rhythmically (apart from the rather uninspired guitar riff before the last chorus) and which, in comparison, is a bit of a slower song; and the last song "BREAKOUT!" which also featured some pretty cool instrumentation, especially the drums, and some shouty vocals from Willow that actually fit the song pretty well.
I also really need to point out the production and mixing of the album (again), which is so so so good throughout and which I'd definitely classify as a solid rock production (apart from "G R O W", which features much more of a pop production). I like it much better than the mixing/production of "Internet Killed the Rockstar" tbh. Honestly, I would kill for AL7 to have production and mixing like lIfE!
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 23, 2021 16:44:45 GMT
To get more back on topic, I don't really think "Grow" sounds Disney, but it does sound a little immature to me, like a lot of pop-punk imo (I think it must be the fast beat and the bright production... idk, there's just something about most pop-punk songs that makes them sound kind of goofy and childish to my ears). It's overall still a good song, though, I just unfortunately already keep forgetting it exists. I listened to it maybe three times on the day of its release and afterwards only two more times. It was the opposite with "Flames".
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 23, 2021 16:39:07 GMT
I get that and I don’t disagree. A lot of the Disney songs were written by the same people which is probably why they sound similar. And it’s targeted towards kids so of course it’s gonna sound kind of cheesy and perfect. However, some people are acting like Avril doing happy upbeat music is like a bad or “immature” thing. You could say a lot of her songs actually have a “Disney pop rock” feel to them like YASNY for example. I’m not saying she should make a whole album like that but if a few songs on AL7 sound more Disney and poppy why is that bad? God forbid being an adult means you should just be dark and depressed all the time to be considered “mature.” I agree that happy upbeat music does not equal immature. Hoping not to offend anyone, but I think it's rather close-minded to believe that only serious / dark sounding music can be mature. However, the issue with Disney pop rock isn't that it sounds happy. It's the cheesiness and that it tries so hard to use this rockstar image, but not the correlating sound and production. Then you end up with songs like "Rockstar" by Hannah Montana or "We Rock" from Camp Rock. It just seems try-hard and fake (even though the songs might still be enjoyable). If Avril added some Disney pop rock songs to AL7, it might make her seem fake too. As HeiBai mentioned, she already likes to use the rockstar image, e.g. acting like she's really badass when playing guitar on stage, when in reality her guitar playing is pretty mediocre. Releasing Disney pop rock songs would intensify this. In the end, however, I think it also just depends a lot on personal taste and what each of us considers to be "rock" or "pop". What seems immature and fake to me might seem perfectly mature and genuine to someone else. Or it might seem immature to both parties, but one thinks it's fun an gets a nostalgic kick from it, whereas I simply don't.
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 23, 2021 13:09:59 GMT
Why is everyone shitting on Disney so much? I really don’t think Flames sounds “Disney” at all lmao Plus who cares if any of her songs do sound a little like Disney pop/rock? Don’t pretend like you didn’t watch the Disney Channel growing up or listen to Radio Disney as a kid. I’m still a huge Disney nerd to this day. Disney is fun and magical and keeps you feeling young at heart - personally, Disney stuff makes me happy. You don’t have to act all pretentious about it and act like something sounding like Disney is childish and “bad.” I havent watched any disney show, except from a few Hannah Montana episodes. I guess I was already too old when the shows came out and it wasnt that big in Germany (my friends also never watched it). Don't know about other European countries though but I can imagine it was never as big as in the US. I'm also not a big fan of Disney in general, some old movies were cute but I dont get the obsession some grown up people have with Disney. For me "Disney music" can be fun, but it all sounds the same and it doesnt sound like passionate music but rather like fabricated songs where they just change a few lyrics or slightly something in the melody and then make it a new song. So that's the point that bothers me. Yes,a "Disney-Avril"-song every now and then can be fun, but it's very repetitive and boring if e.g. her whole album would sound like Grow or other "Disney-music". Though I wouldnt say that Flames sounds like Disney. The piano intro is a bit "wanna-be-deep-and-emo" and I could live without it, but it's fine imo. It's a good song. I spent my pre-teens watching and loving a lot of that Disney Channel stuff, like Hannah Montana, The Suite Life, High School Musical, etc. I'm also from Germany, and I remember especially Hannah Montana and HSM being hugely popular among my peers. All the girls in my class were fans of Miley, Selena, Ashley, etc. I still enjoy going back to all that 2000s Disney stuff every now and then. And yet I fully agree with your last paragraph, that Disney music all sounds the same and too fabricated.
I would also add that they tend to sound kind of too wholesome, if that makes sense? Like, Disney is a world full of magic and possibilities and wonder. There's not much room for the kind of negativity that can't be easily solved; it's quite black and white, with the white (the good side) always winning. I feel like that translates a lot in the music. It's too perfect/wholesome-sounding, too cheery or something. Idk, it's hard to describe. But that's what eventually makes Disney music sound kind of childish to me. I also feel like in the 2000s, when rock music was super popular, Disney would try and make their songs sound more rock too by simply adding an electric guitar and then being like "let's rock this! Rock 'n' roll, yeah!" when in fact it was still pop music. Which isn't bad per se, it's just rather pretentious imo. Though I understand that they wanted to make money and thus chose to adapt to what was currently "in".
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Post by TamyXD on Jul 16, 2021 20:09:39 GMT
I think the recorded live performance is pretty good; I quite enjoyed watching it and the little behind the scenes footage. I loved Willow's performance, she seemed super energetic and passionate. Probably because of this, I even liked her voice more than on the studio track. I also adore her hair and outfit! It was indeed a little weird how Avril joined the performance, but it's a fun song, so it worked, lol. She really sounded a lot like in the studio version; her vocal control is just amazing, it always surprises me somehow. I felt like she wasn't as energetic as Willow, though, but still enough for me to enjoy it. So, overall a decent, enjoyable performance. I also gotta say that I think the song is starting to "grow, grow, grow" on me.
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