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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 5:11:34 GMT
It's not Avril fault that lymelite doesn't reach outside the US. There's region-specific organizations all around the world. It doesn't make them bad organizations just because they can't reach internationally, and it certainly doesn't make them racist XD There's also probably plenty of reason she decided to partner with them.
If you're concerned about where you're donating, or getting help with Lyme treatment yourself and you're not living in the US, I suggest you google a local Lyme organization.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 14:39:17 GMT
It's not Avril fault that lymelite doesn't reach outside the US. There's region-specific organizations all around the world. It doesn't make them bad organizations just because they can't reach internationally, and it certainly doesn't make them racist XD There's also probably plenty of reason she decided to partner with them. If you're concerned about where you're donating, or getting help with Lyme treatment yourself and you're not living in the US, I suggest you google a local Lyme organization. noone said that it's an Avril fault. moreover, I almost am sure if she knew this, she would not be excited about it. I am sure avril wants to help "anyone". But it turns this way. It looks weird when Canadian altruist Avril Lavigne de facto "rejects" to help even Canadians. It just looks wrong. I am sure this is an oversight on the ALF side. I am not blaming the organization (LymeLight) itself as well, since it's not easy to be an international wide organization. The only "fun" thing about them is that they easily take donations from everywhere. So they do care pretty well about everyone on input. They even cared to warn possible donators from Africa (!) and North Korea (!!!) that those won't be able to do their noble deal (guess why). Not that on an output. I undeerstand that collecting money and giving them away are different tasks. By the technical comlexity. But this is their business. As it is already has been said here, there are always sooo many needed to help, that everyone having such a possibility and wish will be able to find whom to help. Well I asked this question only in the hope that the next time, it would be more "anyone"-ish. Since I believe, this IS what Avril was planning to do.
I suggest you read what you are commenting.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 1, 2016 14:42:27 GMT
But insurance and medical care work differently in different countries. Canada especially has a way different health care system and I'm pretty sure all or most of Europe has socialized health care as well. It doesn't work that way in America (yet) so some families may be left having to pay out of pocket for it if the insurance won't cover it. Whereas in countries with socialized health care or a different system than what we have in the US, that may not be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 14:55:12 GMT
But insurance and medical care work differently in different countries. Canada especially has a way different health care system and I'm pretty sure all or most of Europe has socialized health care as well. It doesn't work that way in America (yet) so some families may be left having to pay out of pocket for it if the insurance won't cover it. Whereas in countries with socialized health care or a different system than what we have in the US, that may not be the case. Oh, come on, Bogo. When I first mentioned about this, I told exactly about a Canadian woman which was pissed off a lot with the fact she figured out, the help is for US-only. She said she has two children with Lyme, and she needed help. Read the comments on the ALF FB page from the last year (if they are not deleted). Do you really think, USA is the only country on the planet where there are people not being able to pay out their medication? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
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Post by In Wonderland on Oct 1, 2016 15:04:47 GMT
Well Avril live in the US. The ALF mainly works with projects in the US and Lymelight is an US based organisation.
I myself have donated, being 100% clear about that. If you do not support it, well ok. It stands clear that it will help only children in the US.
Last year's campaign was the first (if I'm not mistaken) the first time for her birthday she went outside America.
It's not about rich/poor countries. It's not wired that she works mainly in USA since its were she has spent most of her time over the past decade and a half. It's not that she won't or can't help people in Canada, Belgium, wherever basically. It is mainly about practicality. It is not just to collect money. And then transfer it to a bank account. Laws are involved.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 1, 2016 15:53:29 GMT
But insurance and medical care work differently in different countries. Canada especially has a way different health care system and I'm pretty sure all or most of Europe has socialized health care as well. It doesn't work that way in America (yet) so some families may be left having to pay out of pocket for it if the insurance won't cover it. Whereas in countries with socialized health care or a different system than what we have in the US, that may not be the case. Oh, come on, Bogo. When I first mentioned about this, I told exactly about a Canadian woman which was pissed off a lot with the fact she figured out, the help is for US-only. She said she has two children with Lyme, and she needed help. Read the comments on the ALF FB page from the last year (if they are not deleted). Do you really think, USA is the only country on the planet where there are people not being able to pay out their medication? ARE YOU SERIOUS? Well I'm sorry for that woman, but it seems like most of the cases where people need help are in the US, not necessarily other countries. The organization is lucky they can even help as many people as they can, it's not cheap or easy to run a charity. Perhaps, as moonlight suggested, she needs to seek out a local organization that can help her. Not to throw this completely off topic but since we are talking about medical insurance in different countries, here's yet another example of why LymeLight probably focuses mainly on the US. Most of you guys know how big a fan I am of Dalton Rapattoni, the guy in my signature. He has bipolar disorder and just now he went on a huge Twitter rant against his insurance company because they failed to provide him with the medication he needs before he leaves for his tour next week. The health insurance is fucked up in this country, companies not giving people their medicine who really need it, not covering costs for a chronic illness like Lyme disease? It's fucked up. I don't blame the organization for trying to focus mostly on the US because it is probably what they can realistically afford to do, plus it seems like their assistance is needed more here considering the state of our healthcare right now. It's ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 20:22:26 GMT
Again. If you want to support people from other countries who have Lyme, then donate to the organizations that do that. No one is forcing you to choose LymeLite just because Avril and her foundation partnered with them. You can donate somewhere else in honor of Avril if you like. There's no need to get upset.
And at whoever was commenting on Avril's page about that, Instead of whining and crying to Avril because your kids have Lyme, reach out to an organization closer to you to help your kids to get treatment. Why are they relying on some celebrity for help? Are people really that dense?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2016 23:18:04 GMT
Again. If you want to support people from other countries who have Lyme, then donate to the organizations that do that. No one is forcing you to choose LymeLite just because Avril and her foundation partnered with them. You can donate somewhere else in honor of Avril if you like. There's no need to get upset. But then I won't be able to win Avril's mystery item or shoes. Anyway, you missed the point or pretend you did. The point was that: Avril Lavigne's "birthday wish" campaign implies its international character. First, nowhere it was stated otherwise. Second, she has a fanbase worldwide. This means all those fans were asked to make donations. Logically, it should be the same when it comes to who is elligible of granting. Thus anyone on this planet with Lyme needing financial help for treatment. Avril's fans worlwide get to help lymies worldwide by this campaign. But it is NOT. My concern was this, that NOT everybody is elligible to get the chance to get it. You didn't get it? Maybe this only me and my logic. Anyway, you know, forget it, now reading Bogo: makes it all clear.
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Post by Amanda on Oct 3, 2016 21:25:53 GMT
Last few days to donate. if you haven't yet and plan to - do it!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 8:09:04 GMT
Wow, anyone anonymous donated 30,000 $!! Less than 5,000 $ are still needed...
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Post by YänniBanäni on Oct 8, 2016 8:52:37 GMT
Wow, anyone anonymous donated 30,000 $!! Less than 5,000 $ are still needed... "Anyone anonymous" a.k.a. LymeLight itself
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Post by Rubén on Oct 8, 2016 8:57:41 GMT
Wow, anyone anonymous donated 30,000 $!! Less than 5,000 $ are still needed... Hi, I'm Avral Lavogne
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2016 9:15:03 GMT
Wow, anyone anonymous donated 30,000 $!! Less than 5,000 $ are still needed... "Anyone anonymous" a.k.a. LymeLight itself Yeah, I had the same thought to be honest...
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Post by eismann on Oct 9, 2016 6:26:10 GMT
Told you 'someone' would donate a huge amount, so the goal could be reached just like last year
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