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Post by midnightlavigneđ on Aug 1, 2023 23:57:17 GMT
I think they could have at least tried to find singles that still represented the album though. If they wanted to go with something more generically pop, what would have been wrong with WYWH as the lead? WTH and Smile just make no sense in the context of what GL is about. I agreeeeeee. Tbh⌠I donât think Iâve even listened to GL outside of the singles since 2012. đđđ
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Post by BogoGog24 on Aug 2, 2023 0:29:06 GMT
Hard to honestly say what would have made GL succeed. Fans like to say it flopped because of lack of promo but that really wasn't the case at all. They got her performances on lots of the big TV shows and she flew all over the world doing interviews and press, plus there were the WTH.TV videos that were essentially the precursor to Instagram stories/TikTok videos. Fans also like to say it flopped because the wrong singles were chosen that didn't represent the album, but like it or not WTH was a near top 10 hit and still one of her biggest songs in the last decade.
I honestly think the album/era underperformed due mostly to the fact Avril just wasn't as popular by then. Had the album been released in 2009 as originally planned it's possible it would have performed way better because she was still at her peak in popularity. After a bratty pop punk album people would have been interested to see what the "mature" singer/songwriter Avril came up with. But by the time the album was released a bunch of new pop girls came in and took over the charts. The whole genre had shifted to more dance-oriented music. She just didn't fit anymore. And as already stated by katy, there was nothing very single-worthy on the album apart from maybe a few songs that could have worked as singles. The production was a little too stripped down for this album for it to really have worked on pop, top 40 radio. Songwriting quite underdeveloped. If she wanted to do a ballad driven, acoustic album, she would have benefited from having a better producer and probably an assistant writer to help beef up the lyrics. The album as a whole is just bland and quite frankly boring IMO. There was nothing about it that was going to entice nonfans to check it out the way for example TBDT had Girlfriend, a monster single that was everywhere at the time. GL was a lot more subtle as an album and era as a whole compared to her previous 3. She clearly wasn't going for the big popstar image anymore and therefore less effort was put in overall in both producing it as well as promoting it.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Aug 2, 2023 21:24:29 GMT
It's funny tho Because GL was considered a flop at the time and britney's femme fatale a success and nowdays GL have way more streams and at some point will hit 1 billion on spotify aswell (it's close to 800M now). HAW kind of took the place of both, GL and AL as her "flop era". HAW (the song) was the start and end of that era. Of course Love Sux was not a smash era by any means, but did well enough for her new standards and brought her back to US top40 radio for the first time in a decade with 2 different songs. I do wonder tho, how the new era will perform, she kind of don't have the "back to my roots" nor "comeback" narrative going on now, but maybe the documentary could be the push needed for this new era to succeed
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Post by elina on Aug 9, 2023 11:17:35 GMT
For me, GL was a very important album and those songs still randomly pop into my head and I start singing them. Some of them can make me cry on spot.
Whereas HAW and AL only had a couple of ok songs and I struggle to remember names of the songs on them. IMO, AL1-4 were coherent albums and you knew what she was aiming for with them (yeah WTH didn't fit but that wasn't Avril's choice) but HAW and AL are like random collections of songs. Love Sux had a clear identity again, though it's not my favorite genre from her so it's not as important to me as AL 1 through 4.
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Post by metam on Aug 13, 2023 12:34:01 GMT
I think Avril should not wait for 20 years to celebrate each album release. I think she needs to do a trend about it like a gap of every 2/3 months for an album anniversary re-release and putting some vault songs on it. It's kinda same as Taylor Swift's, Taylor version re-release.
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Post by katy on Aug 13, 2023 23:28:04 GMT
Mmm Taylorâs is different though because itâs not about celebrating the anniversaries, itâs to claim her music back. I think Avril needs to wait until the right time to do re-releases, if sheâs going to continue with it. Iâd love one for UMS but tbh if we only end up with the LG one thatâs fine with me. If she does one for UMS sheâd have to do TBDT too then I assume itâd stop there, because nobody really cared about the albums after that lol (fans aside, obviously). But yeah LG is her most iconic and definitely deserved one, if she leaves it there i wouldnât be surprised. If she just started releasing them outside of the anniversary years itâd come across as a bit of a money grab, just rushing them out asap without any real reason to.
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Post by melissavandella on Dec 28, 2023 15:49:30 GMT
Certainly! Here's a revised version:
What intrigues me about Avril's career trajectory is how her most recent album consistently performs less successfully than the previous one.
"Goodbye Lullaby" was considered an underperformance back in 2012, and since then, she has released three albums that sold fewer total units. This trend continued, with "Under My Skin" selling only half of what "Let Go" did.
The only anomaly in the future will be "Under My Skin" versus "The Best Damn Thing." While "Under My Skin" sold more physical copies, it is underperforming in streaming compared to "The Best Damn Thing." Total units have been close, but "The Best Damn Thing" will likely overtake it in the future. It might sound controversial, but her decline (commercially) started with "Under My Skin" and has been ongoing ever since.
She's probably not as concerned about the commercial aspect of an era anymore, and now she can release the music she wants with no label interference. However, I wish she could achieve moderate commercial success again, maybe even one moderate hit single, for the sake of her legacy.
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Post by erikvaze on Mar 21, 2024 0:27:33 GMT
can u help me to find there was a list of songs from every album that avril performed and/or did not performed live.... idk if it was a topic here or on twitter
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 21, 2024 1:18:41 GMT
can u help me to find there was a list of songs from every album that avril performed and/or did not performed live.... idk if it was a topic here or on twitter There's a list of all of the songs she's ever recorded in the Avril Encyclopedia Folder. I don't remember seeing a list for all the songs she's performed live on Bandaids though. Maybe it was Twitter.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 21, 2024 1:55:20 GMT
can u help me to find there was a list of songs from every album that avril performed and/or did not performed live.... idk if it was a topic here or on twitter Itâs probably easier to write what songs she hasnât yet performed live: LG - Why, Get Over It, Falling Down, Make Up UMS - HDIF, Take It TBDT - OOTG, Contagious GL - Not Enough, 4 Real, Darlin, Remember When, Goodbye AL - BS, SOS, YASNY HAW - Souvenir, Crush, Goddess, BW, LMI LS - KMLTWIE, Deja Vu, FU, All I Wanted, DTLM, BOAH, MIR, Pity Party All others from her studio albums have been performed in some capacity at least once, along with the Bsides I Donât Give, Breakaway, and IAGWIW
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2024 2:08:22 GMT
can u help me to find there was a list of songs from every album that avril performed and/or did not performed live.... idk if it was a topic here or on twitter Itâs probably easier to write what songs she hasnât yet performed live: LG - Why, Get Over It, Falling Down, Make Up UMS - HDIF, Take It TBDT - OOTG, Contagious GL - Not Enough, 4 Real, Darlin, Remember When, Goodbye AL - BS, SOS, YASNY HAW - Souvenir, Crush, Goddess, BW, LMI LS - KMLTWIE, Deja Vu, FU, All I Wanted, DTLM, BOAH, MIR, Pity Party All others from her studio albums have been performed in some capacity at least once, along with the Bsides I Donât Give, Breakaway, and IAGWIW You forgot I Will Be she hasnt performed that live (unless she has and i ve never seen this live recording before)
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Post by 2000sclear on Mar 21, 2024 3:49:49 GMT
can u help me to find there was a list of songs from every album that avril performed and/or did not performed live.... idk if it was a topic here or on twitter Itâs probably easier to write what songs she hasnât yet performed live: LG - Why, Get Over It, Falling Down, Make Up UMS - HDIF, Take It TBDT - OOTG, Contagious GL - Not Enough, 4 Real, Darlin, Remember When, Goodbye AL - BS, SOS, YASNY HAW - Souvenir, Crush, Goddess, BW, LMI LS - KMLTWIE, Deja Vu, FU, All I Wanted, DTLM, BOAH, MIR, Pity Party All others from her studio albums have been performed in some capacity at least once, along with the Bsides I Donât Give, Breakaway, and IAGWIW I know it wasnât on the initial release but âGet Over Itâ is easily a top 5 Avril song for me. Sad to hear itâs never been performed live. Also btw how in the world did it not make the cut for the initial album? Maybe Iâm just overrating the hell out of it idk but surely if the last two songs on that album were considered good enoughâŚlol
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Post by metam on Mar 21, 2024 8:26:24 GMT
Itâs probably easier to write what songs she hasnât yet performed live: LG - Why, Get Over It, Falling Down, Make Up UMS - HDIF, Take It TBDT - OOTG, Contagious GL - Not Enough, 4 Real, Darlin, Remember When, Goodbye AL - BS, SOS, YASNY HAW - Souvenir, Crush, Goddess, BW, LMI LS - KMLTWIE, Deja Vu, FU, All I Wanted, DTLM, BOAH, MIR, Pity Party All others from her studio albums have been performed in some capacity at least once, along with the Bsides I Donât Give, Breakaway, and IAGWIW I know it wasnât on the initial release but âGet Over Itâ is easily a top 5 Avril song for me. Sad to hear itâs never been performed live. Also btw how in the world did it not make the cut for the initial album? Maybe Iâm just overrating the hell out of it idk but surely if the last two songs on that album were considered good enoughâŚlol 2 angry songs (Losing Grip & Unwanted) were enough. đ
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 21, 2024 12:06:04 GMT
Itâs probably easier to write what songs she hasnât yet performed live: LG - Why, Get Over It, Falling Down, Make Up UMS - HDIF, Take It TBDT - OOTG, Contagious GL - Not Enough, 4 Real, Darlin, Remember When, Goodbye AL - BS, SOS, YASNY HAW - Souvenir, Crush, Goddess, BW, LMI LS - KMLTWIE, Deja Vu, FU, All I Wanted, DTLM, BOAH, MIR, Pity Party All others from her studio albums have been performed in some capacity at least once, along with the Bsides I Donât Give, Breakaway, and IAGWIW You forgot I Will Be she hasnt performed that live (unless she has and i ve never seen this live recording before)Â Ah yes I forgot about TBDT bonus tracks, Alone too
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 21, 2024 12:06:49 GMT
I think GOI doesnât really fit with LGâs overall sound, itâs not rock sounding enough, thatâs probably why it didnât make it.
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