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Post by biggerwow on Mar 28, 2023 18:41:33 GMT
In general, Avril doesn't seem like an outwardly loving person. The most emotion I've seen come from her was during the GMA interview she said she felt forced to do. Her excitement also doesn't show for her work often except when she's drinking. She just has the cool air about her with the exception of her shy days. Isn't this a bit rude.. ๐ฅฒ ? That wasn't my intention at all. It's an observation mostly. I think BogoGog explained it pretty well. Avril is not really outwardly emotional or reactive to things from what I've seen. It doesn't mean that she doesn't care or have feelings.
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Post by adamf83 on Mar 28, 2023 18:50:13 GMT
I definitely think Avril is an introvert, but I don't think that means you can never show emotion. I'm an introvert as well and usually keep to myself, but I can definitely get outwardly emotional about things. For Avril, it could just be a protective thing or a defense mechanism. If she shows any emotion, good or bad, it could potentially be used against her in some way, written about in the media, etc. I can see why she'd want to keep her personal feelings mostly to herself for that reason. Unlike us, she doesn't have the luxury to cry about something without others seeing it, for example. I mean, taking the example someone used earlier of her crying in the GMA interview, that's out there forever. She was obviously embarrassed by it and felt overly vulnerable, but now it's out there for the world to see and it will always be there. She doesn't have the luxury to just erase stuff she doesn't like while for us we don't have cameras on us or we can delete stuff off social media, etc. Yes I agree it might have something to do with being in the spotlight all these years. I also think she probably does show emotion too but in private with close friends and family. Maybe part of the issue was Mod wears his heart on his sleeve in front of absolutely everyone. Iโm not criticising him for that, just I can see why Avril might have realised he isnโt the one. Also I think itโs noted that Avril was maybe shy and quiet before fame, so not sure itโs all down to being in the public eye.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Mar 28, 2023 21:16:21 GMT
If Avril was an introvert she wouldn't be up on a stage every night in different cities over the world playing infront of thousands of people for 20+ years...and getting her photo taken all the time in front of paparazzi. To me that doesn't say 'introvert'
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Post by biggerwow on Mar 28, 2023 21:28:54 GMT
If Avril was an introvert she wouldn't be up on a stage every night in different cities over the world playing infront of thousands of people for 20+ years...and getting her photo taken all the time in front of paparazzi. To me that doesn't say 'introvert' Actually a lot of people in entertainment are introverts. Introverts are also in leadership positions in workplaces too. Being an introvert doesn't make you shy, quiet, or reserved. Although those are still qualities you see in some introverts, like me. Introverts just need time to ourselves to refresh our batteries sometimes ๐ it doesn't mean we can't enjoy the spotlight sometimes. And I think that's why Avril usually dissapears before and after she goes on tour or does huge promo.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Mar 28, 2023 21:33:17 GMT
If Avril was an introvert she wouldn't be up on a stage every night in different cities over the world playing infront of thousands of people for 20+ years...and getting her photo taken all the time in front of paparazzi. To me that doesn't say 'introvert' Actually a lot of people in entertainment are introverts. Introverts are also in leadership positions in workplaces too. Being an introvert doesn't make you shy, quiet, or reserved. Although those are still qualities you see in some introverts, like me. Introverts just need time to ourselves to refresh our batteries sometimes ๐ it doesn't mean we can't enjoy the spotlight sometimes. And I think that's why Avril usually dissapears before and after she goes on tour or does huge promo. Sorry but to me she isn't an introvert.
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Post by TamyXD on Mar 28, 2023 22:13:10 GMT
She could also be a mix type (or whatever you call it), meaning, she could basically be half-introverted, half-extroverted.
I remember she mentioned in an interview last year or so that she likes to be alone to write songs. Yet at the same time, hardly anything of what she shares with the public is just her being alone, there's always someone around.
In the end, we can't know for sure, and that goes for anyone. People may seem like extroverts but are actually introverted, and vice versa. It's whatever the person themself says that counts imo.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 28, 2023 22:58:52 GMT
Itโs called ambivert, when a person can sort of be both depending on the situation. I think Avril is shy around people she doesnโt know and when sheโs being interviewed, but sheโs super open and crazy around her friends or onstage where she feels comfortable.
Itโs not uncommon at all for introverts to be performers. Iโm an introvert and I also love performing. Introverts are not just shy people, it also means they need to recharge by being alone, whereas extroverts get their energy from being around people. Thereโs a Catholic priest I watch and listen to whoโs incredibly popular and I was surprised to hear him say heโs an introvert when his literal job requires talking to people all day long and he is also a podcast host and does talks at conferences. But he says he needs to recharge by being alone. So yes, introverts can most definitely be performers or have jobs that require them to talk to people all day.
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Post by ShiningStar_x on Mar 28, 2023 23:12:12 GMT
Introvert definition and meaning: "They enjoy spending time with just one or two people, rather than large groups or crowds. Prefer being alone"
She performs in front of thousands of people every night. That is not an introvert. If you think she is an introvert I guess that's just your illusion of her and that's cool.
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Post by TamyXD on Mar 28, 2023 23:37:31 GMT
Introvert definition and meaning: " They enjoy spending time with just one or two people, rather than large groups or crowds. Prefer being alone" She performs in front of thousands of people every night. That is not an introvert. If you think she is an introvert I guess that's just your illusion of her and that's cool. Emphasis on the "enjoy" and the "prefer". As yet another introvert on this forum, I can also confirm that yes, a lot of us do prefer and enjoy spending time alone or with just one/two people. But that doesn't mean we always want to spend our time like that, or that we're incapable of spending time with a large group or even performing in front of huge crowds for two-ish hours every other night.
I don't understand what's the big deal here anyway? Some people say she might be an introvert. Others disagree and say she might be an extrovert. What's the problem? Both are fine. There's no way for us to know for sure anyway, unless Avril herself actually tells us. And even then - does it really matter if she's one or the other? ๐คทโโ๏ธ
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Post by BogoGog24 on Mar 29, 2023 0:04:26 GMT
Even when sheโs performing sheโs not overly talkative with the crowd. She usually just says things like โLetโs go!โ or encourages the crowd to scream, etc. Usually before Complicated sheโll say itโs dedicated to her OG fans, but she otherwise doesnโt talk that much to the crowd, tell any of the stories behind the songs or what they meant to her, etc. Contrast that with someone like Taylor for instance who really talks with the crowd, jokes with them, tells personal stories or talks about the songs, etc. So even as a performer, Avril still doesnโt really open up that much.
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Post by sam on Mar 29, 2023 2:09:19 GMT
Avril is absolutely an introvert in my view and introverts can absolutely be performers. It's not really an issue if she is or is not, so it's a bit of a weird debate. A non issue.
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Post by eismann on Mar 29, 2023 6:18:29 GMT
Even when sheโs performing sheโs not overly talkative with the crowd. She usually just says things like โLetโs go!โ or encourages the crowd to scream, etc. Usually before Complicated sheโll say itโs dedicated to her OG fans, but she otherwise doesnโt talk that much to the crowd, tell any of the stories behind the songs or what they meant to her, etc. Contrast that with someone like Taylor for instance who really talks with the crowd, jokes with them, tells personal stories or talks about the songs, etc. So even as a performer, Avril still doesnโt really open up that much. That's because she is not a good performer lol. ----- Gotta say, this is a weird discussion. The definition of introverts and extroverts is much more complex and it's a psychological discussion. There is more to it than "she doesnt like doing interviews'.
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Post by elina on Mar 29, 2023 6:59:34 GMT
IMO it's not the same to talk in front of a crowd than sing in front of a crowd. When singing you focus on the singing and can't think/worry much about other things. You could be shy and still enjoy singing but be petrified of the idea of giving a talk in front of a crowd.
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Post by Jimmyzz on Mar 29, 2023 9:59:07 GMT
Drake playing Avril Lavigne's "Complicated" at a club in Miami
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Post by shessolucky on Mar 29, 2023 13:09:14 GMT
Weird discussion. Im an introvert and on a regular working day I talk to 200 to 1000 ppl, sometimes in person, but sometimes in front of them as well. I still love it but need my alone time to recharge.
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