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Post by orangesky on Sept 13, 2020 21:33:01 GMT
She must be working with Pete in the studio now since she's recording stuff from home and he's the only other musician there. I'm sure certain things will be outsourced, especially production, but I can't imagine him not being involved.
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Post by biggerwow on Sept 13, 2020 22:21:13 GMT
Is anyone wary about him though? Not like on a personal level just that he might be involved in all of AL7's recording process. He could influence a lot of it and some songs may even be about him knowing Avril.
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Post by Jinkxx on Sept 14, 2020 5:45:46 GMT
I still wonder if they have a relationship tho..?
But she can send new music to production people right? They can mix it and send it back. So she can do a lot I think. Pete doesn’t have to do it alone.
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Post by pllforlife on Oct 2, 2020 13:42:15 GMT
Is anyone wary about him though? Not like on a personal level just that he might be involved in all of AL7's recording process. He could influence a lot of it and some songs may even be about him knowing Avril. And then they have a falling out and poof. Songs are scrapped and she re records
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Post by Anti on Oct 3, 2020 16:58:20 GMT
Is anyone wary about him though? Not like on a personal level just that he might be involved in all of AL7's recording process. He could influence a lot of it and some songs may even be about him knowing Avril. And then they have a falling out and poof. Songs are scrapped and she re records If you work on a record with Avril, the axe is eminent. If you’re lucky, you might get to be a “close friend” when she refers to you in interviews 🔪 🔪 🔪
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Post by Anna on Oct 4, 2020 22:58:13 GMT
I still wonder if they have a relationship tho..? But she can send new music to production people right? They can mix it and send it back. So she can do a lot I think. Pete doesn’t have to do it alone. Technically yes but mixing at the early stage is the essence of the song so sending it to somebody means long conversations on how the sound is supposed to sound from Avril’s perspective, unless she sends it to the producer who doesn’t want her to be involved but in this case her working alone doesn’t make any sense because it would mean she can only write lyrics 🤷🏼♀️ Pete can definitely work with her on demos 🙂 at the early stage it always everything they have and that’s enough.
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Post by orangesky on Oct 5, 2020 9:51:25 GMT
I still wonder if they have a relationship tho..? But she can send new music to production people right? They can mix it and send it back. So she can do a lot I think. Pete doesn’t have to do it alone. Technically yes but mixing at the early stage is the essence of the song so sending it to somebody means long conversations on how the sound is supposed to sound from Avril’s perspective, unless she sends it to the producer who doesn’t want her to be involved but in this case her working alone doesn’t make any sense because it would mean she can only write lyrics 🤷🏼♀️ Pete can definitely work with her on demos 🙂 at the early stage it always everything they have and that’s enough. They can definitely make demos and she has produced songs along before (and maybe Pete is good at it too) but Tommee Proffitt said he'd been working with her for a year so seems she is on touch with producers
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Post by Anna on Oct 5, 2020 10:34:21 GMT
Technically yes but mixing at the early stage is the essence of the song so sending it to somebody means long conversations on how the sound is supposed to sound from Avril’s perspective, unless she sends it to the producer who doesn’t want her to be involved but in this case her working alone doesn’t make any sense because it would mean she can only write lyrics 🤷🏼♀️ Pete can definitely work with her on demos 🙂 at the early stage it always everything they have and that’s enough. They can definitely make demos and she has produced songs along before (and maybe Pete is good at it too) but Tommee Proffitt said he'd been working with her for a year so seems she is on touch with producers Yeah. I believe Pete is mostly sound engineering and producing the demos
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Post by ame · 雨 on Oct 5, 2020 17:05:54 GMT
So this Tommee Profitt is the one that composes all of NF's music. And to be honest, i wouldn't mind at all if Avril worked with him for the entire AL7. As NF is a rapper, maybe MGK is involved somehow in AL7 after all (?). or even better, NF himself, that would be dope, a bit weird tho, but who knows hahaha
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2020 9:57:13 GMT
I think the main issue with Avril is that radio are very unlikely to play her new music. I’m not saying that artists don’t make comebacks and become big again (the person who reference Sia - to be quite honest I wouldn’t say Sia was a big star to begin with although I’m strictly talking about the UK. I can only really remember ‘Breathe Again’ being a hit before she returned with Chandelier). Dumb Blonde was the perfect effort to do just that but for whatever reason it did not happen. And also streaming! Even if Avril does have a hit, HAW single went top ten and number one on many iTunes Charts around the world but because of streaming and airplay did not make a dent in the official charts which again means she doesn’t get any exposure. It’s a bit of a circle.
For me I would like her to return to pop/rock but as long as the lyrics remain decent. The lyrics on HAW are her best but don’t want them to suffer at the expense of the music. But what should she do, work with Ed Sheehan? Like every other artist has done to get a hit.
I know they’re pretty much obsolete now but I’d like her to release a Greatest Hits. That could spark some interest again and then release a new album right on the back of that.
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Post by BogoGog24 on Oct 7, 2020 12:18:49 GMT
I still don't know why fans say DB would have been a hit, or at least had the potential to be one. There is nothing special about that song for me, had they released the Nicki version it maybe would have gotten some airplay because of that, but otherwise there's nothing about that song that screams "hit" to me just because it's catchy.
Songs don't get played on the radio because of how good or bad they are. If an artist has good streaming, it will help it on the charts. The artist also needs to promote and do interviews and stuff, which Avril doesn't really do much of anymore. Her social media strategy for promoting is putting a swipe up link to the song on Spotify over and over which does nothing to attract new listeners.
I don't see Avril ever having a big radio song again unless she worked with a hitmaker like a Max Martin type. And they need to promote it. She also needs to have better streaming numbers. I don't think she would be successful trying to do pop/rock. It's fine if that's what she wants to do, but that type of music isn't currently popular and likely wouldn't do that well on the radio or streaming. I think for now she should just focus on releasing whatever kind of music she wants and releasing it as soon as possible instead of waiting. She has a dedicated group of fans that still support her and she already had hits in her past, it's honestly not that big a deal if she ever has a hit song again or not.
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Post by Anna on Oct 7, 2020 13:29:14 GMT
Are you guys really talking about RADIO popularity in 2020??? When nearly everything they play on the radio is paid??? Streaming.
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Post by ame · 雨 on Oct 7, 2020 13:36:24 GMT
Well, thank you next is a terrible song and it got to number1, WAP as well. It's not about the song itself. it's more of the suprise effect. Like, something that's different, that's why billie skyrocketed.
DB had those elements. It was a 2000's inspired song with rap. it was catchy and had funny and empowering lyrics. The only thing left was a music video that never happened. The views on the lyric video are pretty high considering it's avril and it's only a lyric video. The hype was there, Nicki's fandom willing to help, or to make the song a hit. The weird factor about a singer like Avril, pop-rock, and nicki colaborating was there too, everyone was shook and talking about it. The cardi B dish in the lyrics was there, even more spotlight.
That's why we think DB had potential, a lot actually. Thank you next played the mean girls card and nostalgia. DB could have done the same. The idea of gathering blondes for the music video was amazing even tho it never was intented. But it could have worked. She just needed a freaking music video. I understand that it may have cost a lot to a video like that but...idk, no pain, no gain i guess.
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Post by biggerwow on Oct 7, 2020 16:29:25 GMT
DB sucked. The music was dated. The chorus was bad and its the first words you hear after the drum intro. Nicki had to talk about being Barbies. I guess you can be a barbie but you're not a dumb one. What?
It wouldn't make it on the radio. Despite all the crap they put on these days. Streaming is where it's at but Avril sucks at marketing herself there. I hope that if she does promote the country songs that she takes a cue from the women in that genre. They are constantly hustling by putting out lyric videos for every song, performing their songs live, doing a reimagined version of their songs or putting up an acoustic performance or covers of other songs on streaming services. Like Avril these ladies are almost never played on radio so they do little things so fans go listen to their music. At the same time raising their streaming numbers on YouTube, Spotify, itunes. For Avril we only have the album just sitting there and a reminder to swipe up to listen to it.
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Post by katy on Oct 7, 2020 19:29:39 GMT
I just want her to release something she records and thinks “I can’t wait to play these songs for my fans”. But she won’t, because she thinks we all want to hear the same songs she’s been playing for nearly 20 years.
Avril could release the perfect song and she still wouldn’t be hugely successful again because she doesn’t work for it. Completely agree with the post above. I don’t necessarily mind that - she’s not 20 anymore and she’s made her millions, she doesn’t need to be working hard all the time. I just wish she’d purely make music she’s passionate about now rather than always having to include a “hit” (which is inevitably never a hit because it’s usually forced and dated and childish)
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