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Post by erikvaze on Jan 11, 2021 20:00:41 GMT
Sorry im not fit in here, but cain someone please TELL Avril or her TEAM that WTH music video is only in 360 on youtube now.... i think this is quite a BIG problem needed to be fixed( Also they cant even reupload old MV in better quality, come on its been more than 10 years and we still cant enjoy our fave videos in HD(((
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Post by melissavandella on Jan 11, 2021 20:05:11 GMT
Wait, when did that happen? I remember watching WTH in HD. This leads to another question, why was WTH at first promoted as "the first 3D music video" but the 3D got never released?
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Post by HeiBai on Jan 11, 2021 20:25:32 GMT
I went through all the music videos last month for the 2020 rankings and almost all of them from the old eras were sub-HD. You're telling me they existed in HD at one point!? I just assumed since they were old that's just how they always were and they were still the original uploads.
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Post by slapstick on Jan 11, 2021 20:25:44 GMT
IMO Avril's career is on thin ice right now, she already has enough bad press against her from the Hello Kitty controversy and the socially distanced photos with fans at the meet and greets all those years ago. She really can't afford to be engaging in controversy like this, not when she's right at the precipice of a possible comeback. If this album is done right and she and her team really give it their all, I think this could be a decent comeback from her. Maybe not as big as TBDT was, but certainly a bigger comeback than HAW was. I really hope the theory that she's using a reject from TBDT is true and not that she's possibly working with Luke again. Whether or not he was convicted doesn't necessarily matter. His name is tainted and just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he still didn't do what he was accused of. I know they say bad press is still good press, but I think Avril can't afford any more bad press right now. And working with him would be a worse kind of press than some stupid music video she made or fan photos, this is the type of press you don't want to have. And it's certainly not worth sacrificing what little dignity she and her career have left just for a hit. She doesn't need to risk getting canceled before her comeback has even started. Hello Kitty controversy? You mean the racism accusations? I think that's far in the rear view mirror, most people probably couldn't even recall it, quite frankly. It was an awkward use of certain Japanese cultural artifacts for sure, but it's not like this was some intentional dogwhistling or anything similar. From today's perspective it's maybe even milder than Fallon's use of blackface to portray a celebrity just a decade ago. Now about Dr. Luke, I think this is a difficult situation. Proving abuse like this can be a daunting task because of the likehood that there's no substantial evidence and useful witness accounts, and furthermore because a lot of things can be used to undermine the credibility of your character. Most recently Kesha ended up in legal trouble because when talking to Lady Gaga she made allegations of severe harm against Katy Perry perpetrated by Luke, which Perry then denied in court. Now, Dr. Luke may use this is proof that Kesha is making things up, and she could very well have done so, but there's also a distinct possibility that even if Kesha's saying some inaccurate things or falsehoods, she still may have indeed experienced abuse from Dr. Luke. There are these so-called "character assassinations" that are a very common method to undermine victims of sexual and other abuse, especially since these victims are usually less agile in the legal system - the perpetrator concentrates on digging up flaws of the victim in order to portray him/herself as an upstanding, truthful, decent citizen, and their accuser an unreliable, lying, problematic wreck of a person, all based on elements from their lives that ultimately may have nothing to do with the accusation in question, and this is what may have happened to Kesha. Or, of course, maybe he is innocent, though based on descriptions of other artists he certainly doesn't seem all that pleasant of a person from our (admittedly rather limited) perspective, to say the least. It's a very tough situation indeed .
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Post by Frunze on Jan 11, 2021 21:13:30 GMT
IMO Avril's career is on thin ice right now, she already has enough bad press against her from the Hello Kitty controversy and the socially distanced photos with fans at the meet and greets all those years ago. She really can't afford to be engaging in controversy like this, not when she's right at the precipice of a possible comeback. If this album is done right and she and her team really give it their all, I think this could be a decent comeback from her. Maybe not as big as TBDT was, but certainly a bigger comeback than HAW was. I really hope the theory that she's using a reject from TBDT is true and not that she's possibly working with Luke again. Whether or not he was convicted doesn't necessarily matter. His name is tainted and just because he wasn't convicted doesn't mean he still didn't do what he was accused of. I know they say bad press is still good press, but I think Avril can't afford any more bad press right now. And working with him would be a worse kind of press than some stupid music video she made or fan photos, this is the type of press you don't want to have. And it's certainly not worth sacrificing what little dignity she and her career have left just for a hit. She doesn't need to risk getting canceled before her comeback has even started. I don't think anyone really knows or cares about the fan pics or the Hello Kitty stuff, that's ANCIENT now and I doubt pretty much anyone would care about those "controversies", she's not on thin ice at all. The main people think about with Avril is "isn't she actually dead? !!!!"
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Post by BogoGog24 on Jan 11, 2021 22:20:39 GMT
Yes it's true those controversies were mild at best and probably long forgotten by now. But still, I think most of the general public thinks of Avril as a joke, she hasn't been taken seriously in years, and stuff like that coming out in the press didn't help at all. The only interest people have in her these days is the lookalike theory and that's just plain sad.
My point is that she's on the cusp of what could be a pretty respectable comeback, she should try to do everything in her power not to ruin it because of something like this.
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 11, 2021 22:52:25 GMT
Yes it's true those controversies were mild at best and probably long forgotten by now. But still, I think most of the general public thinks of Avril as a joke, she hasn't been taken seriously in years, and stuff like that coming out in the press didn't help at all. The only interest people have in her these days is the lookalike theory and that's just plain sad. My point is that she's on the cusp of what could be a pretty respectable comeback, she should try to do everything in her power not to ruin it because of something like this. By the general people she’s no one. So, it won’t hurt her career, besides does everyone check who made a song when listening? There are obviously people that is always reading the pop culture but hits are not made by those sites. Still, did Say So receive bad press or any of the others hits? And again, maybe they get a deal where his name will never be revealed. I think he will only cares about his money. He doesn’t need any kind of recognition he made his name in the industry
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2021 23:06:38 GMT
Does any one really pay any attention who writes on songs (I mean the general public, not fans) anyway?
I don’t see why she would work with him again only in that they made a hit album together years ago. However it was at a time when Dr Luke was producing everyone’s albums around that time; Kelly Clarkson, Pink, Kesha etc.. and was a popular person to work with because he was successful. . just in the same way as Ryan Tedder from OneRepublic wrote everyones songs at a certain point in time, Leona Lewis, Beyoncé, Jordan Sparks.
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Post by Anna on Jan 11, 2021 23:22:00 GMT
Does any one really pay any attention who writes on songs (I mean the general public, not fans) anyway? Let’s say it’s media, they pay attention in a sense that they receive a press release on a song and copy-paste it into the articles about it. If the composer or writer is for any reason controversial, then they may pick this up. So it can cause from problems but the general public (people who stream songs, watch video or listen to the radio) don’t but they also barely care who they listen to anyways
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Post by biggerwow on Jan 11, 2021 23:25:59 GMT
I've started checking the writing credits of basically everyone now. I think because it's very easy to do on Spotify. It's right there at the end of the menu for every song. Also, a lot of detailed interviews have become the norm where artists talk about who they worked with and the process. It's not like before where it was less likely to hear about it in interviews. I think it's because a lot of producers / writers have become famous like Julia Michaels or Marshmello. There's also Taylor Swift who is hard not to see fan comments about who she wrote with. Jack Antonoff never been so popular or when her fans started with the who is William Bowrey theories. Or like Billie's brother getting so much interest because he writes her songs.
Idk how other people are though. I bet most don't care lol I just really enjoy new music and learning about the process.
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Post by giveuwhatulike on Jan 11, 2021 23:47:11 GMT
Avril never said anything directly about keshas case but she supported her since day 1. I remember when praying was released she started to follow kesha and she even praised kesha at the grammys. That's pretty much show how you feel without actually saying anything Avril and bebe seem to be really close now too, and bebe shaded dr luke many times. She also had an horrible experience with him including one when she was supposed to write a song while dr luke was doing drugs downstairs partying with thousands of people. She wasn't even allowed to look him in the eyes...like...wtf I'm done talking about this pig
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Post by Meteora on Jan 12, 2021 1:20:28 GMT
I'm sorry to go a little bit off topic from the Dr.Luke thing but Avril just started following stylish Ashton Michael on IG. This guy has been working with MGK lately and is the one who picked all his outfits lately.
Now the only thing I'd say about Dr.L is that I'm not a fan of Kesha but I will always believe a woman instead of believing a man no matter what. I'm also the kind of guy that can or try to differentiate a person as a professional and as a human being. I know and we all may agree he's really good at what he does. Now I just really hope Avril will never work w/ him again not even for just a song. Not bc of music issues but I will be really sad if something similar could happen to her. After all she's been through with "the devil J.R" and how abusive he's been, I assume she's learnt how to deal with this type of "men".
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Post by StrongSweet on Jan 12, 2021 1:25:57 GMT
No, no Dr. Luke. Avril's image's not bad enough??
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Post by biggerwow on Jan 12, 2021 1:47:33 GMT
I'm sorry to go a little bit off topic from the Dr.Luke thing but Avril just started following stylish Ashton Michael on IG. This guy has been working with MGK lately and is the one who picked all his outfits lately. I think the Dr. luke thing is the "off topic" now. About the stylist, is she basically going to use all of the same resources as mod sun and mgk? I know she's going to put her own spin but she's lucky she's the only girl. It all sounds so cliquey. But maybe she's just cool with these people and that's why the follow.
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Post by Hellelujah on Jan 12, 2021 2:25:23 GMT
I’m feeling Avril is coping everything MGK did with his album. Just the feeling idk
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